Why are the clove threads being banned here? Are mods sleeping? I literally saw one thread saying "f*** NB" and it's still up.
I understand the 3rd reason but at least remove the clove threads. come on
ZettGundam [#3]given how misgendering someone = bigot/transphobic, 99% of the vlr users would be banned instantly
I didn't talk about misgendering as a mistake. I gave you an example of a thread I saw.
Alexsei [#8]why do you guys care so much what pronouns other people use? its not that deep
I don't believe that's even the problem here. It's a fake character, who cares? But some people are straight up hating non-binary people which is a stupid thing to do.
goofyahh1447 [#9]Mods themselves are bigots
lol, lmao even
Who are the mods anyway? I have not seen them post anything.
underdog_Supporter [#12]Who are the mods anyway? I have not seen them post anything.
Mods don’t post much. They kinda just manage stuff like the matches and forums occasionally
underdog_Supporter [#11]I don't believe that's even the problem here. It's a fake character, who cares? But some people are straight up hating non-binary people which is a stupid thing to do.
you claim to say who cares but then proceed to talk about banning people for misgendering that same fake character, like pick lane kid, should be people be banned or do you genuinely not care.
underdog_Supporter [#11]I don't believe that's even the problem here. It's a fake character, who cares? But some people are straight up hating non-binary people which is a stupid thing to do.
haters gonna hate bro theres not a single thing on this earth that doesnt have haters. anyway if the hate affects you that much i suggest you spend less time online.
NA_KEKW [#15]you claim to say who cares but then proceed to talk about banning people for misgendering that same fake character, like pick lane kid, should be people be banned or do you genuinely not care.
The “who cares?” was rhetorical. It shouldn’t matter to anyone else if someone chooses to identify as nb. The problem isn’t in itself that people misgender clove but that the way they treat clove is the same way they treat nb and trans people in real life
Blaezey [#17]The “who cares?” was rhetorical. It shouldn’t matter to anyone else if someone chooses to identify as nb. The problem isn’t in itself that people misgender clove but that the way they treat clove is the same way they treat nb and trans people in real life
Yup. That's what I meant. Couldn't put it in words as well as you did.
Blaezey [#13]Mods don’t post much. They kinda just manage stuff like the matches and forums occasionally
Yeah. Poor guys must already have some other jobs and then deal with 9-year-old sigmas on this threads
Blaezey [#17]The “who cares?” was rhetorical. It shouldn’t matter to anyone else if someone chooses to identify as nb. The problem isn’t in itself that people misgender clove but that the way they treat clove is the same way they treat nb and trans people in real life
ye well news-flash the world isn't twitter or reddit, get used to it. getting mad and calling for mods to ban anyone who disagrees with you isn't gonna help your case. it'll only make regular folk despise you even more.
NA_KEKW [#21]ye well news-flash the world isn't twitter or reddit, get used to it. getting mad and calling for mods to ban anyone who disagrees with you isn't gonna help your case. it'll only make regular folk despise you even more.
I’m well aware of that. I’m talking about the real world where queer people get attacked and harassed and even killed for being queer. I’m not even saying I want people to get banned here, I’m just saying these guys are part of the problem that people actually suffer from.
Blaezey [#22]I’m well aware of that. I’m talking about the real world where queer people get attacked and harassed and even killed for being queer. I’m not even saying I want people to get banned here, I’m just saying these guys are part of the problem that people actually suffer from.
ye well i also think you guys aren't helping your case by being so blatantly unlikable as a group, you guys act like that kid who cries to the adults any time you don't get your way, and then proceed to sneer happily as those adults punishes everyone else in the friend group.
NA_KEKW [#23]ye well i also think you guys aren't helping your case by being so blatantly unlikable as a group, you guys act like that kid who cries to the adults any time you don't get your way, and then proceed to sneer happily as those adults punishes everyone else in the friend group.
I think you have me confused with a different group of people. All I'm saying is that there are people who harass and attack nb and trans people in real life and that the people who are antagonistic to queer people online directly contribute to this very real problem in the real world.
Blaezey [#17]The “who cares?” was rhetorical. It shouldn’t matter to anyone else if someone chooses to identify as nb. The problem isn’t in itself that people misgender clove but that the way they treat clove is the same way they treat nb and trans people in real life
The problem isn’t in itself that people misgender clove but that the way they treat clove is the same way they treat nb and trans people in real life
what is this stupid logic?
I ran over NPCs in GTA on purpose, by your logic, I should be in jail no? LMAO its a fucking fictional character
NA_KEKW [#23]ye well i also think you guys aren't helping your case by being so blatantly unlikable as a group, you guys act like that kid who cries to the adults any time you don't get your way, and then proceed to sneer happily as those adults punishes everyone else in the friend group.
holy fuck you are so retarded, you get all your knowledge from alt right tiktokers get a grip sick fuck
dapada [#25]The problem isn’t in itself that people misgender clove but that the way they treat clove is the same way they treat nb and trans people in real life
what is this stupid logic?
I ran over NPCs in GTA on purpose, by your logic, I should be in jail no? LMAO its a fucking fictional character
no you misunderstood me. I'm saying that the views that people have hating on clove are the same views that they have about nb and trans people in the real world. I couldn't care less what people think about clove except for the fact that bigotry against real queer people leads to violence which is not good obviously. These are the same types of people harassing and mocking trans and nb GC players on these forums. This issue isn't just about the game.
NA_KEKW [#23]ye well i also think you guys aren't helping your case by being so blatantly unlikable as a group, you guys act like that kid who cries to the adults any time you don't get your way, and then proceed to sneer happily as those adults punishes everyone else in the friend group.
so they arent suppose to be happy that the people who treat them like shit got what's coming to them?
azureblade101 [#26]holy fuck you are so retarded, you get all your knowledge from alt right tiktokers get a grip sick fuck
damn bro yall really just keep acting like this and being surprised when people don't like you, that's crazy
cioccolat [#29]Not that big of a deal, NB mfs will survive misgendering, scrawny kids survived being called "British cigarettes", why cant they?
unfortunately for NB people, it doesn't really stop at misgendering. There are tons of cases of harassment and violence against them. For an nb it's not just words but the actions that are accompanied by them which cause harm.
GhostKing44 [#31]so they arent suppose to be happy that the people who treat them like shit got what's coming to them?
when the definition of being "hateful" towards someone is so vague since it could be straight up harrassment or bullying for some, then something as miniscule as accidently deadnaming someone for others, the fact that punishment is effectively dished out all the same regardless is where people start to have a problem
Blaezey [#34]unfortunately for NB people, it doesn't really stop at misgendering. There are tons of cases of harassment and violence against them. For an nb it's not just words but the actions that are accompanied by them which cause harm.
so the actions cause harm.... not the words. just cause the words happen doesnt mean actions will, and actions can happen without words, which means they arent correlated absolutely.
if its just words, NBs will survive, i can help
cioccolat [#36]so the actions cause harm.... not the words. just cause the words happen doesnt mean actions will, and actions can happen without words, which means they arent correlated absolutely.
if its just words, NBs will survive, i can help
I agree that they aren’t 100% correlated, but the point still stands that NBs get harassed and attacked daily. Kids that get called ‘scrawny’ or anything else don’t face the same risk that NBs and trans people do.
NA_KEKW [#35]when the definition of being "hateful" towards someone is so vague since it could be straight up harrassment or bullying for some, then something as miniscule as accidently deadnaming someone for others, the fact that punishment is effectively dished out all the same regardless is where people start to have a problem
how do you know it;s accidently deadnaming and not just purposely deadnaming and hiding it as an accident?
Blaezey [#17]The “who cares?” was rhetorical. It shouldn’t matter to anyone else if someone chooses to identify as nb. The problem isn’t in itself that people misgender clove but that the way they treat clove is the same way they treat nb and trans people in real life
W upstanding citizen
underdog_Supporter [#5]I didn't talk about misgendering as a mistake. I gave you an example of a thread I saw.
I gendering someone based on their sex, if someone have penis pronouns are he/him and if have vagina then she/her.
Velocity23 [#28]What’s your definition of a bigot?
According to him if anybody who doesn't follow or believe in his ideologies they are bigots.
SimoVatrogasac [#40]I gendering someone based on their sex, if someone have penis pronouns are he/him and if have vagina then she/her.
so do you look for a bulge whenever you start talking to someone or what 🤨
Reimsy [#46]so do you look for a bulge whenever you start talking to someone or what 🤨
he uses context clues
smthlikeyou11 [#48]so its ok if we kill clove (in game) and tbag clove's body (in game) and shoot clove's body (in game) but we call clove a she and all of a sudden its a huge problem.
i might not tbag clove atp else they will call me transphobic
GhostKing44 [#38]how do you know it;s accidently deadnaming and not just purposely deadnaming and hiding it as an accident?
ok so are you implying that one should be punished whether accident or not because we don't truly know whether it was genuine or just being disguised as an accident hmm? see where the problem with your fallacy is starting to go?
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