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Alright lets be honest

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#1
Marved-NA-Savior

Lets not underestimate FNATIC, they're still great.
Lets not underestimate LOUD, they're still good.
Lets not overestimate NRG, we don't know their vibes yet.
Lets not overestimate LEV, see if their slightly language barrier & mixed cultures prevail.
Lets not underestimate or overestimate SEN either, TenZ might get sick again (hope he doesn't but who knows).

Everyone's pick'ems are usually ALWAYS wrong too. Facts yea.
You don't want your hopes to get wrecked so early in the year with expectations.

2024 will be crazy. Chet still a snake though.

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Don’t underestimate G2. trent will cook

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nutab1e
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Liem [#2]

Don’t underestimate G2. trent will cook

losing to EG in groups and blowing up is crazy

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im underestimating LOUD, they replaced aspas with qck. thats like if G2 replaced trent with tigg

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Marved-NA-Savior
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Liem [#2]

Don’t underestimate G2. trent will cook

If G2 can support Leaf to his potential, he'll be a crazy duelist. Very smart player and insane reflex speed.

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babysasuke
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Jitu [#4]

im underestimating LOUD, they replaced aspas with qck. thats like if G2 replaced trent with tigg

or sayaplayer with t0x

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Yistyy
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Nah, I guarantee fnatic will be terrible.

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AstroGalaxy
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W post

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Liem
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babysasuke [#6]

or sayaplayer with t0x

Tex is so underrated its crazy

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babysasuke
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Liem [#9]

Tex is so underrated its crazy

or t0x with l0af

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Marved-NA-Savior
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Jitu [#4]

im underestimating LOUD, they replaced aspas with qck. thats like if G2 replaced trent with tigg

Tigg wasn't that bad though imo. But Less Cauanzin and Chaadhak with Tuyz in his good condition can carry and support Qck easily. I just saw Less drop 30+ with Reyna yesterday lol, that means his aim and just his beastmode is still with him.

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Asuna_Yuuki
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L

NRG clears all

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ionlyHave1Zuni
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babysasuke [#6]

or sayaplayer with t0x

wait respecttex wtf hes the second coming of less

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Marved-NA-Savior
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Yistyy [#7]

Nah, I guarantee fnatic will be terrible.

I think BLEED will be more unsatisfying compared to FNC tbh, in terms of expectations. Boaster I don't believe in, but Derke will pop off and Alfajer Leo Chronicle are going to be solid.

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babysasuke
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ionlyHave1Zuni [#13]

wait respecttex wtf hes the second coming of less

I dont think that's a fair comparison at all

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Asuna_Yuuki
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ionlyHave1Zuni [#13]

wait respecttex wtf hes the second coming of less

texerino is nice, but he Victor clears him easily

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ionlyHave1Zuni
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babysasuke [#15]

I dont think that's a fair comparison at all

isnt he playing senti now

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Marved-NA-Savior [#14]

I think BLEED will be more unsatisfying compared to FNC tbh, in terms of expectations. Boaster I don't believe in, but Derke will pop off and Alfajer Leo Chronicle are going to be solid.

only alfa is good... leo is mid. d0rke and cumnicle are beyond awful.... botster and m0ni aren't even worth mentioning

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Marved-NA-Savior
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Asuna_Yuuki [#12]

L

NRG clears all

I just hope Ethan is as good as IGL as he was a mid-round caller. And as for Demon1 we haven't seen him dominate Icebox, Sunset, or Breeze yet.

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babysasuke
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ionlyHave1Zuni [#17]

isnt he playing senti now

I believe so but Less is best in class and a world champion

#21
funny_prank
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bro woke up and decided to be positive

#22
Marved-NA-Savior
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ionlyHave1Zuni [#13]

wait respecttex wtf hes the second coming of less

Johnqt > Tex

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Marved-NA-Savior
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funny_prank [#21]

bro woke up and decided to be positive

Benefit of the doubt. But among those 5 teams I still think LOUD might underperform the most. Can't wait for SEN vs LOUD, should be close though.

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Marved-NA-Savior [#23]

Benefit of the doubt. But among those 5 teams I still think LOUD might underperform the most. Can't wait for SEN vs LOUD, should be close though.

i think loud might be same as last year at worst because cauanzin and tuyz have a lot of experience now

edit: but of course other teams got better so relatively loud might be worse

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Danny
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Underestimate all except whatever team you decided to support

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Marved-NA-Savior
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Danny [#25]

Underestimate all except whatever team you decided to support

Ngl I want Oxy to pop off but dont think Jakee Wippie and Vanity will help that happen. Your thoughts?

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Jitu [#4]

im underestimating LOUD, they replaced aspas with qck. thats like if G2 replaced trent with tigg

I'm afraid of what Less Raze will do to G2

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ionlyHave1Zuni
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Ic4rusYam2 [#27]

I'm afraid of what Less Raze will do to G2

They wont face eachother

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Ic4rusYam2
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ionlyHave1Zuni [#28]

They wont face eachother

But if I faced it, it would be incredible

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Marved-NA-Savior [#26]

Ngl I want Oxy to pop off but dont think Jakee Wippie and Vanity will help that happen. Your thoughts?

I think Oxy and Wippie will be fine

Vanity is an igl that gives a lot of freedom to his players in order to frag out (which is a blessing and a curse because it means they throw a lot of man advantage situations), but I think that style of leadership greatly benefits aggressive players like Oxy and also players with the patience and gamesense of Wippie

I think Jakee on the other hand benefits a lot from being micromanaged, so I feel like he’ll struggle more with this iteration of the roster than the former

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Marved-NA-Savior [#22]

Johnqt > Tex

tex owned him in ascension buddy. stop rambling

#32
vipermommydomme
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thread of a guy who has been disappointed by NA one too many times

#33
Marved-NA-Savior
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vipermommydomme [#32]

thread of a guy who has been disappointed by NA one too many times

comment of a guy who has been disappointed by FUR one too many times.

NA just won Champions, how am I disappointed? Let me know when BR wins one again without Aspas - which will be never.

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TheAceGamer30
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Holy shit W take iceman fan

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Marved-NA-Savior [#19]

I just hope Ethan is as good as IGL as he was a mid-round caller. And as for Demon1 we haven't seen him dominate Icebox, Sunset, or Breeze yet.

What, you think he just won’t be able to translate his skill onto other maps? 💀

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funny_prank [#24]

i think loud might be same as last year at worst because cauanzin and tuyz have a lot of experience now

edit: but of course other teams got better so relatively loud might be worse

You HEAVILY underestimate Aspas

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Marved-NA-Savior
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Asuna_Yuuki [#35]

What, you think he just won’t be able to translate his skill onto other maps? 💀

Nah I believe of course, but we still have to see it with our own eyes. I just hope Chet dont put him on stupid agents to play a weird comp on some maps, thats all.

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Asuna_Yuuki
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What does we don’t know their vibes mean

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MeloSquids
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tenz getting sick is good for sentinels though, he is the most dogshit player in sentibot

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TheAceGamer30
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MeloSquids [#39]

tenz getting sick is good for sentinels though, he is the most dogshit player in sentibot

He still owns 100 trash

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Marved-NA-Savior
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Asuna_Yuuki [#38]

What does we don’t know their vibes mean

Synergy, chemistry, atmosphere, and communication.

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h1gh_fall
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Liem [#2]

Don’t underestimate G2. trent will cook

don't underestimate kru, we all know what happened at lcq and now they have shyy

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Marved-NA-Savior [#11]

Tigg wasn't that bad though imo. But Less Cauanzin and Chaadhak with Tuyz in his good condition can carry and support Qck easily. I just saw Less drop 30+ with Reyna yesterday lol, that means his aim and just his beastmode is still with him.

I just saw shahzam drop 30+ with reyna yesterday

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Marved-NA-Savior [#11]

Tigg wasn't that bad though imo. But Less Cauanzin and Chaadhak with Tuyz in his good condition can carry and support Qck easily. I just saw Less drop 30+ with Reyna yesterday lol, that means his aim and just his beastmode is still with him.

saadhak chose qck by a reason, it will be no surprise if they come up with a new comp and end up winning this kickoff, remember at lock in when they had tuyz and cauanzin playing the first time and they ended up on the finals?

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Liem [#2]

Don’t underestimate G2. trent will cook

skye nerfs r gas for g2 bc trent can play sova/fade and jonahp can play 2nd init

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Liem
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h1gh_fall [#42]

don't underestimate kru, we all know what happened at lcq and now they have shyy

yea KRU and G2 both better than EG

#47
Brimstan
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So sad everyone will be fighting for second place behind navi next year

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Marved-NA-Savior [#33]

comment of a guy who has been disappointed by FUR one too many times.

NA just won Champions, how am I disappointed? Let me know when BR wins one again without Aspas - which will be never.

I'm an NA fan, I only have the furia flair cause I like their logo. you just seem so unconfident about NA teams lol. You are certain FNC will be good but you are so worried the NA teams will flop. don't worry, I know what you're feeling, NA esports has let me down enough times where I bridle my optimism too. good job jumping to shit talk though

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vipermommydomme [#48]

I'm an NA fan, I only have the furia flair cause I like their logo. you just seem so unconfident about NA teams lol. You are certain FNC will be good but you are so worried the NA teams will flop. don't worry, I know what you're feeling, NA esports has let me down enough times where I bridle my optimism too. good job jumping to shit talk though

Yeah kid you're delusional.

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funny_prank
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Asuna_Yuuki [#36]

You HEAVILY underestimate Aspas

nah i dont i think aspas is the duelist to touch the game i just think cauanzin gonna be insane and chaadhak will cook

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