demon1 better than yay

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yayray

statistically, demon1 is better than yay. Demon1 has better flexibility than yay and can play around the team better. yay played on DSG and did poorly with jett and same applies for cloud9 btw and he played chamber there. demon1 also played with another team before joining eg and did very well (and sometimes even played astra and got positive). obviously if there was an igl helping yay then that would be better, but just the player in-general demon1 is better. thoughts??

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Chow1E

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better jett not chamber

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extan

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the chamber of Demon1’s day is not comparable to its brokenness during yay’s prime

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Prontera

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If demon1 play old chamber, he will be better than yay.

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Domination

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Yay best player of 2022, consistent throughout the year
Semen1 only good at champs

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riyal

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RiftWalker

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Fr demon1 only had 1 good series in Tokyo

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CoCloudy

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bro forgot americas league and tokyo

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Domination

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Counting Americas league lmfao🗿
And Tokyo💀🗿 he didn't even perform good

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uwukitten

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he didn't even perform that well in americas playoffs 💀

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Rokun

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I'd argue that being a sentinel/controller is better for Yay than a duelist because of their behavior in-game. So comparing them on duelist, demon1 looks better on most games.

Yay actually did his job well as the jett/chamber player for Envy/Optic but most of Yay's aggression needed to be setup with utility while Demon1 just takes pure aim duels aggressively and wins.

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BabyWizard

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True

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RiftWalker

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2 events dont make demon1 better that yay who has played 2+ yrs. Can't compare them rn

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koromast

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cned and yay´s jetts didnt age well but im sure yay is still the best chamber ngl

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yayray

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that's really hard to compare with chamber since chamber got mega nerfed and he doesn't play chamber anymore. but for now (just rn), demon1 is better than yay as a solo fragger.

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kamisavitar

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2021 Berlin: #1
2021 Champs: #4 tie
2022 Reykjavik: #2
2022 Copenhagen: #4
2022 Champs: #1

Yay's personal achiements ur point???

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yayray

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I'm talking in terms of how the player can play not their achievements. Obviously, these achievements were made since he played around envy and optic and their igl fenis helped him a lot. Compared to DSG, his skills aren't alone in being independent since he needs some sort of guidance to do well. If you look at Demon1, he just goes in with a guardian and gets an ace with little to no assistance from his team. This is just my personal opinion tho

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kamisavitar

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helped him alot?? guy solo carried.. wat man is waffling lmao, Diamond1 got carried by Boostio and Jawgemo in Tokyo....
dont even understand how dis is an argument

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yayray

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Demon1 doesn't play just duelist; he plays sentinel and controller. Matter of fact, when he was playing controller against DRX he was top frag. You should understand that playing smokes is pretty hard and btw yay didn't play controller and played only sentinel and duelist. (My opinion btw <--)

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Cookierookie577

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how did yay get carried by FNS, when NRG is dogshit without him

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yayray

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Never said yay got carried. yay is good but he needs support to be as good or better than Demon1.

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Breloof

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He got grouped in champs 2021 and 3rd in Copenhagen

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Yistyy

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Demon1 is goated, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Yay shitstomps demon1

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Gutssz

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Don't disrespect the humble goat again

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QDxSupertuna

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i think in terms of teamplay i would agree cause demon1 flex is v good like in the case of f0rsaken but yay is comparable to aspas in in loud imo