so I saw a post a few days ago of some1 comparing NA and EMEA this year and said that EMEA is a 1 team region. because no EMEA team (outside of FNC) had won over a NA team which is true.
lock//in NA 4-2 EMEA (FNC won both for EMEA)
masters tokyo NA 4-2 EMEA (FNC won both for EMEA)
but i have a counter arguement for why EMEA is a better region this year. NA has 5 teams and EMEA has 10 teams. EMEA has double the amount of teams compared to NA. EMEA has 50 players from the EMEA region (not counting sixth man only the 5 main players). while NA has 22 players from the NA region. ardiis is from EMEA and then both pancada and sacy is from SA. ( im not counting jawgemo since he played in NA before franchising) so EMEA has more then double the players from their own region. imo EMEA would be a better region if we took the 25 best players and made it into 5 diffrent teams. i know this isnt something that i can prove but u cant really prove otherwise either so i guess its kinda pointless after all. my main point i guess is that imo EMEA has better players. if i made a top 25 player list with only EMEA and NA players then i would have more EMEA players then NA players. but what do u guys think is NA or EMEA better or are the equal. i would love to see what other people think.
Edit: FNC solos NA
is NA or EMEA better?
yoboikingkong [#8]"NA dominates"
they dont dominate anything lil bro, not valorant, not league, not anything thats international
sadly I have to agree
except for basketball and the Olympics, na doesn’t dominate much except for the scale
yoboikingkong [#8]"NA dominates"
they dont dominate anything lil bro, not valorant, not league, not anything thats international
bro thinks "at life in general" means other games 🗿but yeah even "at life in general" NA is barely dominating anything
Yessirskiiii [#9]The only thing your fatass is dominating is a hamburger and fries
Brother is named Brutality after what he can do to a big mac meal
smizuu [#7]look new eg video , potter said eu have 5 teams and only fnatic on top and she said eu is 1 team region
Potter got her ass handed to her by boaster, i guess americass are a 0team region 😔
bobkiller [#10]sadly I have to agree
except for basketball and the Olympics, na doesn’t dominate much except for the scale
Loled at the scale thing
uwukitten [#11]bro thinks "at life in general" means other games 🗿but yeah even "at life in general" NA is barely dominating anything
i missed that but yea NA remains shit. they dominating the gun violence industry though
alecksdesk [#4]as an EU fan, NA/PACIFIC own our ass.
This guy fake
Literally had apac flag and flair 2 days ago
friedtofu [#13]when was the last time NA won anything?
not lcq, not tokyo, not the league, not lock//in, not champions 2022, not copenhagen, i guess reykjavik was last time NA won
sentinelmain377 [#20]This guy fake
Literally had apac flag and flair 2 days ago
i think u are confusing me with someone else, i am a british long term fnatic fan
sektin [#21]not lcq, not tokyo, not the league, not lock//in, not champions 2022, not copenhagen, i guess reykjavik was last time NA won
exactly, NA is dogshit
Klick1108 [#23]As if ARDIIS is doing anything for NA LMFAOOOO
Also, EMEA has more valorant players (2x more) than NA just an fyi (hence the 2x more pro players)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/10k6w0b/ranked_population_by_region/
Seems like EU and NA are almost the same
Klick1108 [#23]As if ARDIIS is doing anything for NA LMFAOOOO
Also, EMEA has more valorant players (2x more) than NA just an fyi (hence the 2x more pro players)
if u are talking franchising then yes EMEA has more players and more teams. thats why they are worse cus they have to fill out 10 teams with their top 50 players and the top 5 arent on 1 team and then the top 6-10 isnt on one team and so on. while NA only have to make team with their top 25 players ( only 22 but details dont matter). im bad at explaining but i hope u get my point. is it possible to give me the link to where u found out the information that EMEA has twice as many players then NA has?
Okbrook [#25]https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/10k6w0b/ranked_population_by_region/
Seems like EU and NA are almost the same
NA: Tracking 1,384,281 Players
EU: Tracking 2,988,006 Players
Source: Tracker.gg (EP 7 Act 1)
These are the new numbers so Idk...
sektin [#26]if u are talking franchising then yes EMEA has more players and more teams. thats why they are worse cus they have to fill out 10 teams with their top 50 players and the top 5 arent on 1 team and then the top 6-10 isnt on one team and so on. while NA only have to make team with their top 25 players ( only 22 but details dont matter). im bad at explaining but i hope u get my point. is it possible to give me the link to where u found out the information that EMEA has twice as many players then NA has?
tracker.gg: Leaderboards --> Ranked --> Region
alecksdesk [#22]i think u are confusing me with someone else, i am a british long term fnatic fan
can vouch
Klick1108 [#27]NA: Tracking 1,384,281 Players
EU: Tracking 2,988,006 PlayersSource: Tracker.gg (EP 7 Act 1)
These are the new numbers so Idk...
How is that possible? huge jump for EU and quite a loss for NA
Okbrook [#30]How is that possible? huge jump for EU and quite a loss for NA
Idk, but i feel like these numbers make more sense since:
EMEA= aprox 3 mil
Americas= NA (1.3 mil) + Brazil (.577 mil) + LatAm (.639) = aprox 2.5 mil
mental gymnastics.. EMEA has like 100+ countries and even if half of them dont play valorant, a huge portion of Europe does and it also includes countries like Russia and Turkey which has a lot of players. Comparing it to a region which has literally 2 countries of US and Canada is itself testament to the fact that NA is better than EMEA.
The whole reason why NA is combined with SA to make Americas is because then it is comparable with EMEA in terms of size. Anyone with half a braincell can tell Americas is the better more competitive region with better teams and players. Fnatic's coach admitted to this aswell
Okbrook [#30]How is that possible? huge jump for EU and quite a loss for NA
actually a drop for both
yoboikingkong [#8]"NA dominates"
they dont dominate anything lil bro, not valorant, not league, not anything thats international
Hey at least they dominate superbowl, whatever the fuck that is
EWW_EU_EWHO [#33]mental gymnastics.. EMEA has like 100+ countries and even if half of them dont play valorant, a huge portion of Europe does and it also includes countries like Russia and Turkey which has a lot of players. Comparing it to a region which has literally 2 countries of US and Canada is itself testament to the fact that NA is better than EMEA.
The whole reason why NA is combined with SA to make Americas is because then it is comparable with EMEA in terms of size. Anyone with half a braincell can tell Americas is the better more competitive region with better teams and players. Fnatic's coach admitted to this aswell
And still fnatic owns your asses. Everything good 5 trophies>3
The_Cleg [#44]And still fnatic owns your asses. Everything good 5 trophies>3
Lockin social experiment.. its literally 4-3 even after having so many advantages like more teams in every international tournament before franchising owing to more players. The quality of Americas is far superior. NA as a continent has 2 trophies which makes it the best continent - EU has Asian citizen players so it cant really claim that + Brazil as a country has 1 champs title again something no single country in EU can claim since it has multiple country players in every successful team.
yoboikingkong [#8]"NA dominates"
they dont dominate anything lil bro, not valorant, not league, not anything thats international
wait inform me please, whats the internationally used transactional currency? wait wait... I just wanna know, is it euros? or does the world use every currency in reference to the relevance of USD... I just wanna know of course.
PooFaceCe [#47]wait inform me please, whats the internationally used transactional currency? wait wait... I just wanna know, is it euros? or does the world use every currency in reference to the relevance of USD... I just wanna know of course.
oh you also dominate the industry of being obese, diabetes, worst healthcare and gun violence. you also are responsible for innocent lives lost in the middle east countries. but what do i know. (why tf are you bringing political shit here)
Americas > EMEA but EMEA > NA. NA only have 5 teams in franchising compared to EMEA's 10, so of course their average is gonna be better. If you consider the top 10 NA teams, you'd have to include Guard and M80 (both definitely on par with EMEA Tier 1), Moist Moguls (could take a win here or there), and then what? You can tell me FaZe or G2 would beat BBL or TH. Plus EMEA also has some solid Tier 2 teams like Apeks or Acend who would be on roughly the same level as those NA Tier 2 teams. If you consider the whole scene EMEA has a bit more depth.
The_Cleg [#43]BRO NAVI BEAT 100T WHY DO PEOPLE FORGET PLEASE
when did NAVI beat 100T? if u are talking about lock//in then it was FNC who won against 100T. if its some other event please inform me cus i would want to watch that
EWW_EU_EWHO [#45]Lockin social experiment.. its literally 4-3 even after having so many advantages like more teams in every international tournament before franchising owing to more players. The quality of Americas is far superior. NA as a continent has 2 trophies which makes it the best continent - EU has Asian citizen players so it cant really claim that + Brazil as a country has 1 champs title again something no single country in EU can claim since it has multiple country players in every successful team.
i looked thru the players of the EMEA teams and i couldnt see a single player from asia (russia and turkey are located in both idk if thats what u mean by asian citizen). its kinda obv that no country in EU has won a champions with player from only 1 country. no russian orgs are allowed to compete at the moment and the second biggest population is turkey and it has less then half of brazils population. btw USA hasnt won a internation event with players only from USA either and they have a way larger population then Brazil. that arguement just works in favor for EMEA. i do agree with ur other post that Americas is more cometitive then EMEA is when it comes to tier 1. sry if anything here is hard to understand.
yoboikingkong [#48]oh you also dominate the industry of being obese, diabetes, worst healthcare and gun violence. you also are responsible for innocent lives lost in the middle east countries. but what do i know. (why tf are you bringing political shit here)
Idk why you're saying "you" when my flag clearly references that I'm not American, just defending the nation.
but no they dont dominate "being obese", For the most part those are all african countries.
As with diabetes, United states aren't even top 10.
Worst healthcare definitely not, it costs a lot but it is actually some of the best healthcare quality in the world, and the fact that it costs a lot is semi-aided by the fact that general tax rates that dont contribute to free healthcare are very down in comparison to countries that offer free healthcare, for example, Canada.
Gun violence, Definitely don't dominate, but yea its pretty bad.
Not a single chance you're going to try to bring up "innocent lives lost" in a Europe vs America conversation LMAO... You do not want to get into mass genocides as somebody taking the side of Europe.
Europe conquered and colonized practically the whole fucking world, caused both world wars, and are actively at war right now... and who are the victims of that war begging for the most help from? Canada and America lmao.
(I brought political things into it because lil bro up a few threads said "NA doesn't dominate anything at life in general")
sektin [#50]when did NAVI beat 100T? if u are talking about lock//in then it was FNC who won against 100T. if its some other event please inform me cus i would want to watch that
Just trolling
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