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CS esports DEAD

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#1
VibsTV

No partnered teams. No franchise. Complete open circuit for cs events from 2025
https://twitter.com/CounterStrike/status/1687147844439064576

Nobody cares about small orgs. GG cs esports is dead now

Tweet -
Over the past few years, we’ve seen professional Counter-Strike drift away from that ideal. The ecosystem has become gradually less open, with access to the highest levels of competition increasingly gated by business relationships.

We think that Counter-Strike should be an open sport. So we’re going to add new requirements to running large-scale competitive events. The finer details are still in progress, but here are the broad strokes:
Tournament organizers will no longer have unique business relationships or other conflicts of interest with teams that participate in their events.

Invitations to all tournaments will use our ranking system (detailed here), or otherwise be determined by open qualifiers.

Any compensation for participating teams—prize pool or otherwise—will be made public and will be driven by objective criteria that can be inspected by the community.
Since tournament organizers have existing long term commitments, these requirements will take effect as of 2025. There will be some rough edges to the transition, but we’re committed to the long-term health of Counter-Strike as a sport and are looking forward to its bright and open future.

#2
jawn
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this might rejuvenate the NA scene

#4
VibsTV
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Not at all. NA teams want money and screen time no matter what. Na excels in having money but not much when it comes to maintaining team. So its fcks with the NA teams even more

#6
SEN_brasileiros
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But not for the players xd

#10
VibsTV
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This brings uncertainty to players in case salaries. Most orgs would not like that. AND orgs are the one paying salaries

#17
cocoluna
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bro NA has no salary right now either way... Only 4 NA/US teams pay more than 1K a month idiot

#11
KyLZi
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idk I feel like the new wave of NA orgs like MxM and DSG may handle things better but who knows. I know MxM will be starting a team.

#3
FDWC-
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W Valve & CS

#5
SEN_brasileiros
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W for CS

#7
WinterZ20
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W

#8
patuj
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that is W

#9
theogblazen
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actual W

#12
Na1myy
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Thats literally a massive W for small Orgs that are operating well like ENCE or Monte. It also hurts shit orgs who burn money and take up slots like EG.

In CS you actually have to do your job really well to make an org successful from now on. That stinks for NA Orgs who really cant opperate without franchising so dont expect orgs like 100paycheckstealers to come back into CS. TSM already seems to be the new EG aswell. Great for Orgs like Falcons who actually want to establish themself.

#13
souvlaki
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not bad, although I suppose they would need to increase the prizepool limit at events to compensate for the potential negative effects

#14
cocoluna
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bro is braindead

#15
reycac
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good,now cs can be completely open circuit and val can be semi franchise and we can see which is better

#16
KyLZi
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we already know tho

#19
reycac
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what do we know

#22
V0sotros
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Partnership is a much more stable financial model for the orgs, the only thing that keeps the big orgs in csgo is the prestige of the game and the Major sticker money. For any other esport, they have no sticker money and orgs will realize how unprofitable an open system is

#24
juugobr_
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Open circuit is fairer favoring the big and small orgs but yeah the profit can be hard to get. Franchising system is stable for the orgs that can pay for it (the big ones of course) but gradually kills the scene as a whole, way quicker than an open circuit might do. There has to be a in-between but it is hard to view

#25
reycac
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no esports is profitable idiot

#26
cocoluna
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if there is no prestige or money why would an org be in a game?

#23
KyLZi
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Open circuit in my eyes is better. Better viewing, more events, infinite room for growth for competition. The only downside is orgs don't get guaranteed support but I don't think Esports is there yet anyways. I think Riot can do it but I still prefer open circuit

#18
BigBoyCaveNoby
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real W
everybody is sick of partnered BIG, Complexity, OG and especially EG rosters who are annoying to watch, they never progress, but they attend every tournament bc of partnerships
now frauds era is over

#20
Olofboost
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Franchise kills small orgs, not open circuit

#21
Ullyr
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W for competition but also we won't see eg or complexity. I think fruad teams like this will be replace by new up and coming teams. It be interesting to see big name tier 1 orgs actually go thru open qualifier. Cause I bet u some frauds and upset will happen.

#27
Moiraine
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WWWWWWW
No more teams that are only there because their orgs have money when they're complete DOGSHIT, and a team paid in pizza and coke bottles is better than them. Teams like EG for example that don't even have FANS to justify being in there.
It's a system that promotes meritocracy. You will only be at the top if you absolutely deserve it.
I love Valve.

#28
VibsTV
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Bye bye to big orgs and big salaries. And then bye bye to big tournament organizers

#32
Moiraine
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Lol ESL and Blast have nowhere to go, this thread is hella dumb
Meritocracy >>> ALL

#29
KOMPOSTO
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This is W, ESL's partnership system was meh but BLAST's partnership was very unfair. Hopefully Riot changes their shitty as system too

#30
thiagomds
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rare W from Valve, franchise system is a shit

#31
Joakin
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4 months to end the year and theres literal no orgs in latam because of this, there are no tourneys. in cs you have a lot of SA orgs during the whole year. in valorant its a 5 month season 7 month offseason

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