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Scream leaving would be the biggest cowardice...

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#1
Loud_Neymar

... in Valorant history.

He demands to be the boss of the team,
makes shit decision after shit decision,
refuses to listen to the coach and team and forces his way through,

And now after the project he led crashed and burned he blames Newzera and says he might be leaving to CS2???

If he did that to my team i would despise him.
What a delusional assh*le.

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Simp4S0m
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Well he can leave all he wants. But that post about Newzera is some pussy shit. If you have personal problem message him instead of this passive aggressive post he did.

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Loud_Neymar
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Leaving is still bad. He fucked the team and now essentially publicly taunts them by saying he might leave the sinking ship.

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dexter000111
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What happened between scream and newzera ? Explain full drama in 8 words plz

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Rubrik_Duck
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“giving up immoral” - scream, passive aggressive towards newzera

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Sc9r1ett
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although they got 100 times better after newzera quit, zelsh got in the server and scream stopped igling

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dexter000111
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giving up immoral

Proceeds to tweet about moving to CS2 🗿

#75
Rubrik_Duck
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true, i couldn't find a way to write it into the 8 words.

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UnrivaleD
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are u fucking dumb, newzera left the team in that critical moment he's a huge part of the failure, as he played like a silver who cant even do a jump spot and then retreats(cuz french) and you wanna say he's not part of the problem , beside scream owned up to his part of the failure when it came to igling

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danii1
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Bro's holding a grudge against French people or sum

#34
UnrivaleD
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anyone in the left hemisphere would relate, you should thank god you live faraway from them

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unknown_trash
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I'm loving the French hate. I despise French people and at this point my hatred for them is almost irrational

#60
UnrivaleD
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yeah bro common W , they are racist patriots who look down on the rest of the world and we just do it back to them , they are responsible for many atrocities all around the glob and they are still doing it in africa, so fck anything french, they have the most dark history as a government and still use same methods

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unknown_trash
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actually now that you mention it, thats actually really true. first they did it with haiti (back in the 18th and 19th century) and then they had colonies in north africa and now they are very strict on their rules of religion in current day france. maybe i DO have a good reason to hate them! i actually only hated them because they were all very blunt and rude to me, and said "oh we are just honest people so dont take it personally" so i took it personally and now i hate all french people.

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1king
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Scream owned up to his part with his abysmal IGLing, but then immediately returns to IGLing for LCQ.

I'd seriously like to submit a grant to the NIH to study the size of that man's ego

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azeijrazjerflazeknrfgfv
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all morocco blinded by scream root, look harder he is toxic and he burnt all past bridges.
Majority of past team mates do not want to play with him any more. he is toxic and it shows in all of his comms.

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UnrivaleD
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french detected opinion rejected

#77
azeijrazjerflazeknrfgfv
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he is a toxic whether you accept or not. he can't help it he will win 0 title with or without KC.

#4
cyk
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Finally EMEA got their own twitter king 👑

#5
Master_oGgway
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According to newzera reply, looks like something did happy internally 👀

#52
noxx
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what does this mean

#58
Master_oGgway
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He replied to scream post saying something like ao kc allowed u to make comments like this but restricting me from telling everyone the truth

#7
CGX
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"He demands to be the boss of the team" source: trust me bro
tf are you talking about ??

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babushka_boii95
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the sheriff half armor play was repeated in TL when they used to eco. He constantly used to clash with Sliggy on how the game should be played, which contributed to his eventual departure from TL. The KC coach cam literally says it all, and pierre has a good idea on how the game should be played. He has a huge ass ego and his influence can be seen from the teams he plays on. The weird ass Gekko-pilled comps deffo is his creative decision. I mean even in lock-in, a coach who has control of the team will not allow his duelist player to do whatver the fuck they want, and yet he resorted to playing kay/o and skye. There is your explanation

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CGX
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its still just assumptions there is still no valid evidence of him being in control of the team and there is a coach for a reason and just to let you know that scream's liquid still have the best achievement w scream being the igl (champions 2021 4th/3th)+ both past LCQs... im not a person who believe in assumptions unless we have the coach having his opinion on the team we cant say anything and thats my point

#16
Okoretro
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yes there is actual evidence it was said on a KC stream by the coach himself

#17
CGX
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clip ?

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UnrivaleD
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stop pulling shit out of your ass go ask in sliggy stream why scream left, its bcz tl brought nats adn wanted to release nivera instead who's way better than soulcas for nats, he stuck with his brother, stop making shit up

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if you had basic comprehension skills you would have read it as why sliggy left instead of scream you imbecile. I was not talking about why scream left, I could give a fuck about that, I was talking about how little control coaches have when someone acts like they know more about the game than actual analysts spending hours of analysis and how comps work comes into their team. Thank god he left Liquid otherwise EU would be solidified as a 1 team region

#29
UnrivaleD
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you're just a trash subhuman with zero cognitive functions to call ppl who disgree with imbeciles, go learn argue skills as decent human before you fart here , you say he used to calsh with sliggy constantly? i never miss sliggy's stream and he never said that, nolifer like you pulling shit out of his ass and cant even argue like a civil human , go away

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I wasnt even disagreeing with you, I just called you a buffoon who cannot read. You must either be 13 or watch ScreamY headshot compilations daily on yt thinking he is allat. Here is the civil argument you ask for, simply put:

Sliggy did say that he clashed with Scream about how the game should be played, and again, half armor sheriff on eco-rounds is employed by literally no other team other than ones with the player named "SCREAM" on it. I am speaking as to how much control he has over any team he joins because of his popularity. KC coach cams on games show how disappointed pierre is because he knows this is not how he wants the game to be played. No rational coach would have their star duelist on initiator unless the duelist themselves told the coach to fuck themselves and let them do as they please. Lock-in interviews Scream literally said that duelists are overrated. This should let you know how much he does as he pleases.

And please next time, do not ask for diplomacy when you act classless yourself.

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hell_on_earth
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do no teams really buy half armor sheriff? i feel like teams do that but they do that when they do have enough money to buy next. maybe thats a half buy and kc are just half buying when they should full eco

#45
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No team as a whole buys half armor shields when they should be ecoing. Maybe in other teams one or two players do only for a few rounds where they can half buy with full util into the next round. Analysts hard stress on how important econ is for a tacfps like val. Util in a round can be more impactful than a sheriff and half armor. That is why Sideshow malded about KC. They have no proper econ management and the next buy round theyre missing half their util. Same stuff was repeated in Liquids 2022 and 2021 runs in the VCT as well, except that Liquid players could actually aim

#57
SilentNight
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i like you guy

#9
LimiNaL
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Nah scream in the right here

#10
Loud_Neymar
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??? Scream demanded to be igl. The team sucked from the very start...

He demanded to play 0 duelist comps for half the split...

KC being shit is his fault. Now he abandons the team that gave him trust. Trust that he misused to boost his own ego...

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CGX
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it is funny how you have no balls to admit that you have 0 evidence to backup your claims about him being the boss of the team it just show whos the real coward all you can do is downvoting lol

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Loud_Neymar
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Evidence 1:
The KC coach said in the interview that Scream wanted to be IGL (something the coach didnt plan for) but he at least managed to trade that for him accepting to play duelists.

Evidence 2:
Sliggy said many times on stream that he left TL because he wanted a proper IGL but Scream prefered being IGL and didnt want to sign a new player to fill that role. But they signed Nivera instead. His non igl brother. Even Link later left for the same reason ("team structure"). And they still didnt sign an IGL

Evidence 3:
Scream goes on a twitter campaign arguing duelists suck and surprise surprise... KC stopped playing them for a long while in that time.

Edit:
Evidence 4: They kept using strats from TL. Forcing them through despite them repeatedly not working. Like the raze astra breach trap play they did 100 times. Worked like one time. Or some specific buys that just do not work and fuck eco.

You must be deliberately looking away to not see the obvious. But you are moroccan so no shock you are biased.

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CGX
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Just to let you know, this matter has nothing to do with my nationality and I can assure you that I'm not biased. + I'am ready to apologize and admit being wrong It's very normal to me we r just having a conversation about a pro player it should not be a serious matter.

1- if coach didn't want scream to be the igl he could just say no so your "evidence" is not valid here!

2- not part of our conversation

3- not part of our conversation

conclusion: you bring nothing there is no evidence that scream is the boss and forcing everyone to follow his ideas.

NEXT!!

#20
ReeferChiefer
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Damn bro is doing tricks on it

#21
Loud_Neymar
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Ah yeah...

Ideas that obviously belong to Scream always being pushed through means nothing.

Friction building between him and the coach & Newzera shows nothing...

Sliggy and KC coach are trying to say as much as theyre allowed to. Literally spoonfeeding you the information.

But problem is you do not want to believe it. So you look away or find excuses for everything

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CGX
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the relationship between coach staff and players should be professional and have no room for emotions and should always be, this a pro team not a premier team that we are talking about so if the coach accept the thing scream suggested then the blame on him not only scream, why we dont see the things from another prespective ? scream is doing his best trying mulitple ideas to help his team while coach is lazy and do nothing and just getting paid? you see its not as simple as u may think.

All am saying is dont spout assumptions and stop beating around the bush and bring evidence to backup your claims because you and me and everyone in this forum knows nothing that happens inside of the team.

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UnrivaleD
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i dont think that it takes super human cognitive skill to release that the game is a team game(players+staff) and if you want to blame just one players and not the other 7, then you simply have weak mentality and dont acknowledge your mistakes, hence you will never improve neither as a player no as a coach

#36
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at this point its just a pure hate thread that have no real values people come here to downfrage your replies just because you refuse to believe their delusional OPINIONS, what i asked for is evidence (twitch clip, tweet, ig story ... of the coach or any official member of karmine corp) saying clearly that Scream is the boss forcing his team to do his ideas and not letting the team do what he want then i will apologize and admit im wrong but News Flash: they kept replying with bs full of assumptions and weak arguments like no lil bro am not asking for your assumptions i want a OFFICIAL CLIP OR TWEET FROM KARMINE CORP TEAM MANAGEMENT OR THE PLAYERS . but yeah its useless to argue with these npcs

#37
UnrivaleD
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i mean its obvious like the sun in a clear day, i call it the famous players hate syndrome(fat nolifers sitting front of screen hating on players like scream tenz and yay for achieving stuff that they will never do), tehy are trying to make it like sliggy and scream are on bad term , i never miss sliggy's stream he's a nice dude who speaks only good about scream and nivera he even call them adil and nabul bcz how good they mean to him , its true they had different approaches to the game which can happen in any team or sport, thats why sliggy rightfully stepped down, i feel low of myself for going to the level of these guys and replying to them with their style.

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UnrivaleD
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stop fucking lying sliggy said on his stream the whole 5 players wanted to stick together and didnt want to realease anyone, jampii tried igling before scream adn when he didnt succeed then scream took over, what sliggy actually said is that players werent applying his instructions like he wanted to (all of them not just scream) so he decided to leave

#50
Archie___
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Just admit you lost and shut your mouth.

#53
CGX
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elaborate how ?

#59
UnrivaleD
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man im done xdddd, ask for proof, dont reply cuz he knows he has zero evidence and then another npc type you lost lmfaoooo, im out of here

#62
CGX
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i even offered money 15$ for anyone who can prove his point (official evidence) about scream being the bad guy and forcing his team and coach to play his style but guess what ?? they kept saying these morccans are high and crazy XDDD Thats how an npcs respond when they cant contre your argument...

#63
UnrivaleD
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🤣🤣🤣

#64
Archie___
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I haven't checked vlr in a while, you fucking idiot.

#12
babushka_boii95
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Good. Atleast KC can drop these frauds and have M8 play in their stead. Will be less of a joke

#18
hekzy
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it's funny, that's what cs frogs said about NA. Guess valo frogs are all the same

#26
firo
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you despise him but isnt it good he’s leaving then? kc can rebuild, just like liquid did.

#28
babushka_boii95
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KC would benefit in the long term without his control. Liquid exists to prove this point

#31
Loud_Neymar
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Best case would be him staying because he is one of the best duelists in the world but giving up control to the coach. Let them sign a proper igl.

Enzo, Scream, Nivera, Sh1n, Kadavra is a cracked af roster. Dont see how they can do better than that

#35
kirrans
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morrocans in this thread going crazy

#38
GreyDaze
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They are doing tricks on it

#46
Prontera
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Im pretty surè they are high

#47
CGX
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guess what we made this thread popular lol still no one can provide a decent argument
oh boy ...

#48
Loud_Neymar
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Bro. There is no way you arent trolling. Impossible. One person cannot be this brainbroken

#51
CGX
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coming from the biggest troll yeah throwing words just like that doesnt make your arguments valid lil bro
come up with something better and if you prove what you said is true im willing to give you 10$ google play giftcard and a 5$ to your paypal account how about that lil bro ? don't be scared if u lose the bet u have to admit in a new thread that you are wrong and thats it how about that ?
remember bring a valid evidence official statment from karming corp team managment or the players, coach, staff that support your argument not your delusional nonsense.

#54
noxx
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everybody you argued with provided actual arguments but your response was so bad that they ended up stopping talking to you, you are delusional.

#55
CGX
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i dont know how your brain proccess but a normal human being should understand better right ? Official evidence means a ig story/post or twitter post or a twitch clip/vod from the players and coach and staff from karming corp saying clearly that scream is forcing them to follow his ideas and coach is not the one to decide in the team and its all up to scream, now you understand my point ?

#65
noxx
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are you fucked in the head or something? did u get hit in the head as a baby? wtf is actually wrong with you? YOU CANT JUST GO AROUND SAYING "OMG THIS PLAYER I WORKED WITH NAMED SCREAM IS ABSOLUTELY DOGSHIT EVERY TEAM SHOULD BLACKLIST THIS GUY" IF U DO THAT, THE PERSON WHO DID IT WOULD GET ABSOLUTELY COOKED AND HIS CAREER IS BASICALLY OVER, THIS is the reason nobody calls him out FULLY but they throw shades at him from time to time BECAUSE THATS ALL THEY CAN DO AND ALSO BRO THERE ARE LITERAL CLIPS OUT THERE OF SLIGGY SAYING SCREAMS IGLING AND HIS INFLUENCE IN THE TEAM WAS WAY TOO MUCH FOR HIM TO HANDLE SO PLEASE JUST GO OUT THERE AND SEE IT FOR URSELF INSTEAD OF BEING A LAZY CUNT

#66
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BROOO BRING THE FKIN CLIPS HERE DONT TALK NONSENSE I DONT GIVE AF ABOUT YOUR ASSUMPTIONS YOUR ASSUMING HOW PEOPLE THINK ABOUT HIM IT DOESNT WORK TO ME U FKIN NPC IM TELLING BRING THE FKIN CLIPS HOW THE FK YOU UNDERSTAND FKIN BASIC ENGLISH ??? ONE AND LAST I SAY IT. B R I N G THE C L I Ps to support your claim and STOP PUTTING YOUR FKIN NARRATIVE YOU FKIN LAZY S HOLE YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS lil s hole :)

#67
KssS
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man the Moroccans can't accept that their idol is in the wrong

#68
noxx
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bro got me malding over a vlr post, what has my life become

#69
KssS
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dont worry i've been there. people are so blinded by idolatry that their brain cant process logic.

#43
supernova
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ScreaM = L professional and maybe L person too

Bye LcreaM

-Supernova The King of Valorant

#56
snowconedeity
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if scream leaves and they give XMS duelist/chamber again KC would be a contender (with like + enzo + kAdavra)

#71
yaiima0
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The dick riding for scream in this thread is crazy. Why not just accept that he made a mistake and can try to do better.

#73
Ullyr
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The more i read about scream why do i feel like he has a such a big ego. Before when he was on liquid he and sliggy would clash a lot with how to play.

#78
Master_oGgway
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Tbh, they did get better after sliggy left because they were running absurd comps like brimstone and omen on haven

#79
BattleCry
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Have you read the tweets of scream? He completely took the responsibility of failure.
Again scream should have sticked to TL if he really wanted to win something in valorant.

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