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My thoughts on GC

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INDIAN_DETECTOR

The inclusion of transgender characters or representation in video games, including Valorant, can be a positive step towards promoting diversity, inclusivity, and representation in the gaming industry. Including transgender characters allows for more diverse narratives and helps players with different gender identities feel seen and included.

Representation in media, including video games, is crucial for fostering understanding, empathy, and acceptance of different identities and experiences. By including transgender characters, game developers can contribute to breaking down stereotypes and reducing stigmas surrounding transgender individuals.

It's important to approach the inclusion of transgender characters with care and respect, ensuring that they are portrayed authentically and sensitively. Developers should consult with transgender individuals and communities to ensure accurate and respectful representation. By doing so, they can create characters and storylines that resonate with players and contribute to a more inclusive gaming environment.

Ultimately, the inclusion of transgender characters in video games can play a role in promoting acceptance, diversity, and representation in the gaming community, and help create a more welcoming and inclusive space for all players.

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lwrrzzs
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from which website u copied this?

#4
INDIAN_DETECTOR
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Wrote by myself, only took 10 mins

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h786
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90% looks like chatgpt, even the paragraphs are the same length.

https://writer.com/ai-content-detector/

this comes up 89 % GPT

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B1itz
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LMAOO

#23
bigboy
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*89% human generated content. doesn't necessarily mean its all chatgpt

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HackNaija
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89% human, not gpt.

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h786
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i literally pasted your thing and came up with this:
the paragraphs are the same lengths, and it looks like chatGPT language. stop lying lil bro.

nah its crazy that you posted chatGPT and claimed it as your own HAHA.

"respond to this as a contrarian for the sake of being contrary, "

I must say, I disagree with your perspective on the inclusion of transgender characters in video games. While diversity and representation are important, it seems that the push for transgender representation is driven more by a desire to be politically correct rather than a genuine artistic choice.

Video games are primarily meant to be a form of entertainment, and players often seek escapism from reality. By introducing transgender characters into the game, developers risk injecting real-world politics and identity issues into an experience that should be focused on gameplay and storytelling.

Furthermore, insisting on authentic and sensitive representation of transgender characters may limit the creative freedom of game developers. It places unnecessary constraints on their ability to tell a story or create characters organically. If developers are forced to consult with specific communities to ensure accurate representation, it could stifle their artistic vision and lead to tokenism rather than genuine inclusion.

Moreover, it's worth considering that the gaming industry is a business, and developers must cater to their target audience's preferences. The vast majority of gamers may not necessarily be interested in playing games with transgender characters. Instead of trying to force representation, developers should prioritize creating compelling gameplay experiences that resonate with their core audience.

In conclusion, while inclusivity and diversity are admirable goals, the inclusion of transgender characters in video games risks compromising the artistic integrity of the medium. Developers should focus on creating engaging and entertaining experiences rather than succumbing to the pressure of political correctness.

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brobeans
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what data is chat gpt reading from

#5
RedditGGGB
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@ReplyChatGPT

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LouBag
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Everyone knows it’s just coincidence that since the dawn of competitive video games men have dominated.

It’s just coincidence that the best players in GC are trans.

It has nothing to do with the fact that men and woman are different and therefore will have different things they are good at.

It’s clear to everyone with a brain the only reason men and trans are better is because they work harder.

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dapada
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If I speak..

But seriously though, since when disagreeing with something = hating or -phobic?

#8
Zeah
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this.

#9
Bonkbonk201
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since people decided they need you to agree with them or your an asshole (most simple minded humans on earth)

this is not to be mistaken with people who do not care if u agree with them

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Congo1
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since always. If you disagreed with black people being equal = racist. Same with trans now.

You are the problem

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crashhacker1
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In many cases, I see black people getting preferential treatment than being treated equal, same with trans kind.

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No, this is how equality is achieved, by propping up and giving aid to the people who don't have equal representation.

If I have $10 and you have $20, and I receive $10 to make us equal, I definitely received preferential treatment, but that only resulted in us being equal. This is the goal of the "preferential treatment" you argue against. Note that the amount of "propping up" to do is a very delicate balance, and impossible to apply in a general sense because it's hyper individualized, so we do our best.

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dapada
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Your logic is flawed, brother.
Mutual respect is the word you're looking for, Unity in Diversity. The problem with this entire narrative is that there is no goddamn limit and some individual may abuse LGBTQ+ rights. I remember seeing some news about a guy, guilty of raping two women, then he transitions before trial and all of a sudden, he was sent to all-female prison LOL idk about you but that is so fucked up imo

So all in all, I don't care if you want to call yourself anything you want, I respect your choice, but there has to be some limitations and regulations before you could fully access the privilege and facilities of your gender. Something like if you want to apply a certain job, you need to have proven qualifications for it.

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jawn
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because disagreeing with the notion of trans people being recognized and represented is inherently transphobic, it's pretty simple

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Bonkbonk201
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the world will never be fully equal/fair, etc because everyone has a different view of equal/fair, this has always been the case and will always be the case, anyone fighting for equality will fight a losing battle the entire time because people will always be different, people trying to force their version down other peoples throats are the problem imo.

I'm not trying to force my view down your throat and i don't care about you, why do u have to shove your view down my throat type of thing.

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sure, I agree we'll never hit 100% equality, but is your argument really "we can't be 100% equal to everyone, so we might as well just ignore all social issues"

do you think women should have not fought for their right to vote? i'm sorry but they had to force their vision down your throat to get that right because bigots like you didn't want to budge. "after all, why change something that isn't broken?" they say.

you can just admit that you're uncomfortable with transgender people existing, it's okay.

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Bonkbonk201
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why are u using an alt lmao, and using an argument too outdated and too unresearched for me to question is a good debate trick to trap people, but sadly i'm not stupid, if u wanna actually argue the point we are talking about, we can otherwise i won't respond

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frq
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im not using an alt, i just lurk

it's a good 'trick to trap people' because it's a legitimate argument that you're sidestepping, along with my first point

let me address your argument:

  • the world will never be fully equal/fair - i agree
  • because everyone has a different view of equal/fair - i also agree with this, though I believe a lot of varying opinions are born out of ignorance
  • this has always been the case and will always be the case - meaningless statement
  • anyone fighting for equality will fight a losing battle the entire time because people will always be different - this is historically false, look at any marginalized group that has risen up anywhere (see: women fighting to vote, disabled people fighting for wheelchair ramps, general labor strikes, indigenous communities fighting for representation, etc.)
  • people trying to force their version down other peoples throats are the problem imo - how else are you supposed to learn about something, do you expect to absorb the information from the water you drink? I understand you don't want an aggressive argument, but this perspective is childish. I feel like this is the crux of your argument, so let me state this simply: Many marginalized groups have tried to peacefully inform the general public of their existence and validity, and have been ignored. What would you propose they do when they are ignored? Go back home and give up?
  • I'm not trying to force my view down your throat and i don't care about you, why do u have to shove your view down my throat type of thing. - you posted first blud, forcing me to scroll past this stupid take
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h786
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you responded to me, is that "transphobia" thread deleted?

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frq
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yes the thread was deleted

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Bonkbonk201
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The problem i have with "varying opinions are born from ignorance" is the fact that, no one can change someone else unless they want to change themselves first, whether someone is ignorant or not, whether they want to change that will be down to them not some random person telling their perspective, and if someone chooses to stay ignorant why should i take time out of my life and try to change that, i don't need to do that.

for the 4th , i'm not saying it will be impossible, as i said and as historically has been proven, these people will always fight an uphill battle, and it's fine to explain and try to make others understand why they should support their cause, but plainly blanketing a bunch of terms which are known to have bad connotation towards it and makes a person look bad because they share their opinion which is not the same as the other makes an argument against their point plainly unfair off the jump, that isn't very good "equality" is it, someone isn't great because they can convince a room full of people already convinced of their point of view that they are right, but rather the person who is willing to go into an unfair circumstance and still fight for what they believe is right, imo.

For the 5th, i personally learn based off fact and studies rather than off my personal opinion most of the time, but most of the time i don't absorb any of these social justice issues because frankly it doesn't effect me, and I'm grateful for that, don't get me wrong, the problem i have is people making every action they do or every action they take based off the fact this person agrees or disagrees with me, that sounds very immature to me, i would rather just let that person believe what they want to believe and i'll go on holding my values strong, towards the end of it "marginalized groups" comment, i believe if they genuinely feel their point is valid, they should fight as hard as they can to convince as many people as they can that their way is the right way to go about the issue going forwards, u don't win people over by calling them bigots and labelling them as transphobes/sexists/racists etc, u win them over by sitting down and having a good talk with them, without judgement and bias.

i also wanna say, i appreciate that u were able to sit down and have a conversation about it with me, because instead of leaving with anger we both left with different perspectives as we considered before, and that was the purpose of my previous message, i personally don't mess with people who would rather insult than give realistic actual points towards an issue.

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I would actively encourage you to reread your post. I'll use a buzzword that you probably hate, but your post reeks of privilege. This is very clear by your statement of "but most of the time i don't absorb any of these social justice issues because frankly it doesn't effect me". Simply because something doesn't affect you directly doesn't mean that you shouldn't care about it. This is the kind of selfish thinking that results in these hateful concepts being allowed to propagate out of ignorance.

Ask yourself this: If you saw someone attempt to kick a dog to death would you intervene? You could argue that if you saw it happen it affected you, but what if it was behind a closed door? Social justice isn't a visibility problem, you don't get to ignore it just because you choose to not see it, because there are people actively living it. Take your fingers out of your ears.

You state that you would rather have people sit down and debate you without judgement and bias, but how am I supposed to have a debate like that with a person who writes "i would rather just let that person believe what they want to believe and i'll go on holding my values strong", like what am I supposed to convince you of at that point?

I understand you don't mess with people who insult you, but your first reply literally was an insult.

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And the funny part is, on top of what i've already said, i can sit here and say proudly that, yes given i did see a dog getting kicked, i would try to intervene, but i do not actively go out and seek helping others, in my view it's not what i hold dear to my heart, and this is why, i have said this multiple times, but at the end of the day, if someone has issues, it is their prerogative to get help, or seek counselling, therapy, etc for what they have gone through, which is rather a productive way of them getting help rather than them just being stuck in the bad circumstance they are in, while i cannot help them like a professional can, and if it is being pushed on someone else, to help someone with an issue like for example, self harm, which i personally in the past, with one of my friends constantly being on edge and willing to harm themselves given i did not stay and help them through it, because i did not have the expertise to help them, they did not get better by talking to me, and venting in a unhealthy way, i know that mentally, that takes a MASSIVE tole on me and my mind, so if u are saying, you should actively stay in that circumstance to help that person, you are suggesting that I personally stay in a toxic relationship which will harm me in the long run and most likely, also them because it keeps them from going and seeking proper professional help, when in reality, there are better people out there to support said person, who can actively help that person actually get better and get out of what they are currently doing, so in my eyes, once again, your view would be problematic there.

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Your comments about privilege, I was brought up by a single mother, in a council house which we rented, my dad died when i was 7, who i might add, was abusive on top of everything else that has also happened, and my niece is transgender, who i would hang out with very often when i was a lot younger (8-12), and have no problem with her own personal decision and will always love and respect her for who she chooses to be, and her opinion, i trust that she is telling me the outright truth when she came out to me, and my mother about this and never once doubted who she was as i have known her my entire life and nothing will not change my opinion of her.

on top of that my mother worked very hard to run a business, to make ends meet for me and my sister after for a majority of my childhood having to go through college while juggling raising me and my sister and my father passing away, all after going through mental, sexual and physical abuse as a child herself.

my sister is bisexual and i personally am Aromantic, so i feel at the end of the day, i have dealt with enough of my own issues and adversity, that i would rather not have to deal with everyone else's issues and adversity on top of my own, i am happy and appreciate the position that i am in now, and i would not give up dealing with everything i went through, to have a more clean and positive upbringing and attitude that i would rather not deal with everything negative, since i have always felt negative, i would rather look more positively at the world and how we can change it for the better, i do not feel as though i am privileged and i know i am not a bigot, given my personal experiences in real life, so u can throw whatever u feel I am at me, but at the end of the day, i know what i am, u do not, if u do not believe or do not want to believe this proves what u said false, i suggest you look inwards instead of at me.

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Bonkbonk201
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This took a while to come out because i took a while to write it, and on top of that, i needed my sister, niece and mothers permission to give away these details, which they all gave me consent to, I appreciate your position given what i said before, but as i said before i do not exactly care what other people think of me online, but i do feel if u aren't just a troll and really care about truth, these facts will change your perspective of me for the better, instead of just random buzzwords and assumptions that u had thrown out.

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yoboikingkong
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Title: The Importance of Transgender Representation in Video Games

Hey everyone, I wanted to share my thoughts on the inclusion of transgender characters in video games, specifically in relation to games like Valorant. I believe it's a positive step forward for the gaming industry, promoting diversity, inclusivity, and representation.

Representation matters, not just in movies or TV shows, but also in the interactive world of gaming. Including transgender characters allows for more diverse narratives and gives players with different gender identities the opportunity to feel seen and included. It helps to break down stereotypes and reduce stigmas surrounding transgender individuals.

Of course, it's crucial for game developers to approach this inclusion with care and respect. Authentic and sensitive portrayals are vital, and consulting with transgender individuals and communities can ensure accurate representation. By doing so, game developers can create characters and storylines that resonate with players, contributing to a more inclusive gaming environment.

Overall, the inclusion of transgender characters in video games can play a significant role in promoting acceptance, diversity, and representation within the gaming community. It's a step towards fostering understanding, empathy, and acceptance of different identities and experiences.

As always, let's keep supporting efforts to make gaming a more welcoming and inclusive space for everyone. Together, we can create an environment where players of all backgrounds feel valued and represented.

Take care, and happy gaming!

[This response was generated by ChatGPT.]

#32
MaTrix96
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There was an error generating a response

Regenerate response

#33
BETH_HARMON
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its only a problem for esports not normal sports if you know what i mean

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