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Gonna be just like the LCS internationally 😳

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NA is far from being done their tier 2 is the strongest in the world rn in terms of viewership talent and investment

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fk no EMEA and PACIFIC tier 2 is way better just less watched

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Then why does EU and Pacific struggle to find any more than one team that can perform?

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Like NA has a good team playing consistently

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eg and nrg owned liquid and drx (paper rex could own both with something maybe tho)

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Liquid almost won NRG

LOUD is also your team, don't leave them out

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EG almost beat Fnatic in the upper final but that doesn't mean they did lmao

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I was responding to the guy saying all EMEA teams but Fnatic are bad

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if "liquid almost beated NA" is your argument then i wont argue at all man, and you literally saying navi and fut are coming back stronger like loud cant comeback stronger and own everyone just like htey did on americas league.

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Theres like 6 of Americas T1 teams that can make a run in champs, M80 and TGRD are (admitted by the teams in T1) just as good if not better than some of them.

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LOUD, EG, NRG, C9, that's all. LOUD performed horribly at this event.

I might also say EMEA has 6 teams that can make a run - including Giants and Vitality.

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You do know thats the majority of NA teams right? 100T definitely still has a chance to win LCQ though.

and yea you might "say" that, but youd be fucking lying. Liquid di very okay, FNC did well, and the rest of your region did dogshit awful

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You have 5 teams, of course they'd be slightly more stacked. We have 10.

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you think NA doesn't have enough talent to fill 10 slots??? LMAO sounds like a region problem on your end, hence why our T2 scene is so strong

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w take

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Olofboost

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Exactly, you don't have enough talent to fill 10 slots. Those would be just horrible contenders, and quality of some existing NA teams would decrease.

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because franchising got absolute FRAUD orgs in EMEA, like KOI, HERETICS, KARMINE, GIANTS. Those are all terrible LOSER orgs. So many better orgs, more storied that would've actually competed financially but Riot are a bunch dogshit spanish-cocksuckers

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the orgs in question are uhhh oh they are on NA tier 2 right? mad lions oxg g2 and nip was on brazil

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ur acting like the same shit didn't happen to every region other than pacific tho

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Olofboost

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And what did your region accomplish? EMEA is 2 times champion this year, 5 slots at champions.

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Sao Paulo was not a major LMAO

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Olofboost

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If you won, you'd be bragging the same way. It's 1 of 3 international tournaments per year.

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No I would not, not even riot classified it as a major it was classified as a "kickoff event".

it was single elim, no qualification process, and was used to introduce ppl to the teams, not to solidify the best team

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Whatever, Fnatic won Masters. 4 EMEA masters/champions trophies against 3 of Americas.

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how are any of the NA orgs broke ass frauds (other than C9)? explain

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Please tell me your joking... coming from a Fnatic fan your talking about org finances? LMAO

you must not know.

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hekzy

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at least they are running in multiple games, competitive rosters. The orgs I mentioned are literally nobodies in every other title. Including LEC.

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Liquid, Navi, FUT performed well. It's not like Americas has more than 4 good teams (those at Tokyo + Cloud9).

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Bro Navi and FUT both got grouped in AWFUL fashion how did they perform well? And Liquid won what? one or 2 games then got double dropped by Americas seed 2 and 3?

Literally EVERY NA team would do better than FUT and Navi lmao

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Navi barely won EDG who placed 5th-6th, if they did win they would be in about same position.

LOUD, your 1st seed, got shit on. EG/NRG is all you have, maybe C9 too. None of them won.

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I am literally actively defending NA not Americas as a whole, hence why I didn't bring up Leviatan, u fucking idiot

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So why is NA better than EMEA?
Fnatic >> EG
NRG >= Liquid
Navi, FUT ? C9, SEN

You've got no proof to your theory

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NA had 2 teams go to tokyo, 2 of them ended top 4, EMEA had 4 come to Tokyo ONE ended top 4

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EMEA has 10 teams and talent distributed across all of them, you have 5 teams.

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T1MB3R

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anyone saying NA dogshit EMEA the best needs to see this even though their dumbasses wont be able to comprehend this

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What are you on about? we've had like 4 different winners (fpx, fnc, acend, gmb)? NA has had 2 (optic and sent)

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Sorry bro I don't live in 2021, also yea, youve won 4 times total and na has one 2 times total, ofc ur gonna have 4 and were gonna have 2.

Look at this tournament and ur region, ur league is way more far apart in skill levels between teams, and of 4 teams ONE made it top 4, of 2 NA teams, 2 made it top 4

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who cares, we won. We're the best and thats what history will remember. Nobody gives a shit about middle of pack teams lmfao. Keep coping and seethin tho.

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No history remembers Optic core as the best "team" Lemme know when FNC gets 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 4th 2nd

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Optic needed more titles. And the one title they got was cause FPX and FNC players couldnt attend Iceland.

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the classic EU cope😭

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seems like that wasnt our problem kekw

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nah pacific tier 2 is more of just PRX wannabes. NA has the biggest talent pool but EMEA has players that have insane potential.

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bro im 100% sure you dont even watch tier 2 emea and rather watch a fucking disguised vs moist moguls match

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Facts let these na haters hear it

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Americas still has the most depth of any region. Look at the firepower of teams like SEN C9 100T that didn’t even come to Tokyo. On top of those we have EG LOUD NRG well established teams. And a stacked T2 scene as well… we are far from finished

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aside from m80 and loud, tbh i dont see any potential with these team.

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guard mxm and oxg seem far from not having potential.

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There’s no way you look at the players on SEN (maybe bar tenz) and say with a straight face that they don’t have firepower

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AND CSGO TOO LMFAO LIQUID DISBANDED

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nah there is proper tier2 development, drive from the players and support for the scene from riot. Plus NA actually has some competition, which keeps the players individually good.

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gonna be like NA csgo

OMEGALUL

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NA isn't a region

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EG is a team composed of players that were tier 2 at best last year and just finished second at an int event. Imagine Sentinels had the coaching/cohesion that this team has. Look at c9 too with two tier 2 players coming in and dominating. NA tier 2 is littered with talent lmfao. IDK which EMEA teams are just adding tier 2 players and becoming dominant, Fnatic added two established top 10 players, a lot easier

NA in 5yrs

OMEGALUL