Since vlr rankings are kinda wack, here's who I think are the NA tier one teams, in order
Would you change anything on this list, or are teams like v1 and SEN good enough to be in tier 0 with Brimstone gaming, gtn, and soulcas (when he's on a flank)
Swiftmal12 [#5]Tier 1 for me is
- SEN
- C9
- V1
- Envy
- 100t
- ABX
- FaZe
almost perfect list but faze should be outside top 8
Hard to rank teams when they havent played in months and a large majority will come back with huge roster changes/gameplay changes, this ranking could not possibly apply to this very moment as we have no idea of what some of these roster's playing 5 will be so if anything this is just and old ranking based on the challenger's finals from 2 months ago( I am guilty of this as well)
gutszeraa [#2]EG better than LG and t1
could be if they FOCKING TOOK OUT POTTER AND CLAWDIA, I LEGIT WENT OVER THIS GUTSZERAA
dogegamer [#9]almost perfect list but faze should be outside top 8
If not top 8, where would you place them with or without Jammyz?
HeyClassic [#14]If not top 8, where would you place them with or without Jammyz?
with marved: 9-10th, losing to t1 and v1 without wippie is rough
these rankings are kinda wrong, so let me try to do my best to correct them. ABX and NRG aren't better than FaZe, IMT, and other teams. LG isn't dead last considering they were a dark horse team coming into S1 and S2 Challengers events but soon collapsed. XSET lost its hype when they were clapped in S2 Challengers.
I think these are the true rankings, which are based on recent performances, and overall performance/dominance as a team
item [#23]
- Brimstone Gaming
- SEN
- V1
- C9 (I would personally favor C9's new lineup with Xeppa over V1 in Stage 3, especially since V1 need to find a new fifth, but if we only take into account old rosters I think V1 is slightly better).
- NV (Somehow this team manages to place exactly 4th in every major tournament)
- 100T
- XSET
- NRG
- GenG (Unlike LG, FaZe, etc I don't think they looked too bad during their losses, it just felt like they had a bad tournament).
- ABX
- FaZe
- IMT
- TSM
your going to rank geng above abx, , imt, and tsm even thougt they beat them, lmao
NU_Peri [#24]your going to rank geng above abx, , imt, and tsm even thougt they beat them, lmao
shh gen.g are one of my favorite teams just let me cope :(
item [#25]shh gen.g are one of my favorite teams just let me cope :(
yeah but be realistic plz but maybe after dropping huynh things change
bigpeensheen [#19]these rankings are kinda wrong, so let me try to do my best to correct them. ABX and NRG aren't better than FaZe, IMT, and other teams. LG isn't dead last considering they were a dark horse team coming into S1 and S2 Challengers events but soon collapsed. XSET lost its hype when they were clapped in S2 Challengers.
I think these are the true rankings, which are based on recent performances, and overall performance/dominance as a team
- SEN
- V1
- C9B
- NV
- 100T
- FaZe
- IMT
- LG
- NRG
- TSM
- XSET
- Gen.G
- ABX
- T1
TSM above XSET and ABX lol both have done better and ABX beat them and knocked TSM out
maldoror [#12]Hard to rank teams when they havent played in months and a large majority will come back with huge roster changes/gameplay changes, this ranking could not possibly apply to this very moment as we have no idea of what some of these roster's playing 5 will be so if anything this is just and old ranking based on the challenger's finals from 2 months ago( I am guilty of this as well)
Every team but 100t, Sen, and V1 have made a roster change and we've seen pretty big differences.
dyoun15 [#29]
- SEN
- RNG
- TSM
- 100T
- NV
- V1
- XSET
- FaZe
- C9B
- T1
- NRG
- IMT
- GENG
- LG
- ABX
dude ur lists and takes just keep getting worse stop baiting and stop talking about RNG
Sova_Viper_Breach_Cypher [#21]SEN are a tier above everyone else so they are the only tier 1 team
Horrible take lol
bigpeensheen [#19]these rankings are kinda wrong, so let me try to do my best to correct them. ABX and NRG aren't better than FaZe, IMT, and other teams. LG isn't dead last considering they were a dark horse team coming into S1 and S2 Challengers events but soon collapsed. XSET lost its hype when they were clapped in S2 Challengers.
I think these are the true rankings, which are based on recent performances, and overall performance/dominance as a team
- SEN
- V1
- C9B
- NV
- 100T
- FaZe
- IMT
- LG
- NRG
- TSM
- XSET
- Gen.G
- ABX
- T1
I can agree with stuff except ABX looked strong in the last vct and are at least top 10 with top 5 potential, and LG just lost two players and have yet to name replacements so they are not in a great state rn
iRee [#18]You don’t know that tho.
not defending him but 100t said in an interview that when they lost the 15 minute wait time between matches didn't help them, it put them at a disadvantage because of how short of a time their mental had to recover
MasKQRadeX [#39]Riot themselves should make up an official metric to rank teams . Vlr is literally putting Soniqs at no. 9 (no hate on them but just how tf?) and thespike.gg has xset at 4 and imt at 5 (which is just plainly stupid imo)
idk about spikes ranking system, but i think (not definite) that on vlr when soniqs moved to NA they moved their stats from the OCE region over so they started off with tons of, whatever the point rank system is called on this site lets just call it RR for the sake of simplicity. Since Soniqs has been paricipating in tons of tournaments with t2 and t3 teams theyve managed to keep this RR in practically the same position since they have been dominating (getting consistantly in top 3) in these tournaments and all the RR they lose from playing against t1's is cancelled out. Not 100% sure with this theory but in my head it makes sense
LNG [#40]idk about spikes ranking system, but i think (not definite) that on vlr when soniqs moved to NA they moved their stats from the OCE region over so they started off with tons of, whatever the point rank system is called on this site lets just call it RR for the sake of simplicity. Since Soniqs has been paricipating in tons of tournaments with t2 and t3 teams theyve managed to keep this RR in practically the same position since they have been dominating (getting consistantly in top 3) in these tournaments and all the RR they lose from playing against t1's is cancelled out. Not 100% sure with this theory but in my head it makes sense
that's a good take but V1 and Sen 's RR that they earned in Masters 2 aren't added while teams that play T2 and T3 non-riot monthlies get RR spikes.... that's not a good way to rank.
LNG [#36]not defending him but 100t said in an interview that when they lost the 15 minute wait time between matches didn't help them, it put them at a disadvantage because of how short of a time their mental had to recover
and to prepare. give them a day, its a different matchup. also they loose so many matches by a round or 2, that at a certain point we just don't know enough to micro analyze these rankings.
LNG [#36]not defending him but 100t said in an interview that when they lost the 15 minute wait time between matches didn't help them, it put them at a disadvantage because of how short of a time their mental had to recover
theyre not the only ones that have had this problem with this format in the past lmao this should be common sense but the dates for the matches and travel was tight which is probably why they couldnt do 1 match per day for teams
SharubuNguvu [#16]I would move faze to 10 and IMT and xset up one but I think this is accurate for NA.
May I ask why you are so hard on Faze? In the last two months they have only lost to SEN V1, and a very close match against T1? They beat Envy, T1, 100T, NRG, XSET, Luminosity, and GEN G in the same time period.
Shanty [#44]May I ask why you are so hard on Faze? In the last two months they have only lost to SEN V1, and a very close match against T1? They beat Envy, T1, 100T, NRG, XSET, Luminosity, and GEN G in the same time period.
I would say it was just a bad phase and they are a much better team
PotatoCh1ps [#45]I would say it was just a bad phase and they are a much better team
It's just weird IMO, before losing to V1 (which the same can be said to a lot of teams in the same position) and T1. The consensus was they were pretty much locked into #2 or #3 with the streak they were on beating basically everyone but SEN. They lose a very close match against T1 and people have them dropping to barely in the Top 10 is just silly to me. It's not like T1 are scrubs, a day or two after T1 beat FaZe they almost beat SEN (winning 1 map, then losing 13-10 twice).
Just think if people have FaZe barely inside the Top 10. They're gonna surprise a lot of people.
Shanty [#46]It's just weird IMO, before losing to V1 (which the same can be said to a lot of teams in the same position) and T1. The consensus was they were pretty much locked into #2 or #3 with the streak they were on beating basically everyone but SEN. They lose a very close match against T1 and people have them dropping to barely in the Top 10 is just silly to me. It's not like T1 are scrubs, a day or two after T1 beat FaZe they almost beat SEN (winning 1 map, then losing 13-10 twice).
Just think if people have FaZe barely inside the Top 10. They're gonna surprise a lot of people.
I think they are better than 10 but I cant put a team in the top 8 that did not make challenger finals imo
MasKQRadeX [#41]that's a good take but V1 and Sen 's RR that they earned in Masters 2 aren't added while teams that play T2 and T3 non-riot monthlies get RR spikes.... that's not a good way to rank.
No teams from masters got RR, i think since its international they dont want it effecting the regional leaderboards
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