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best NA tier 2 players

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#1
h786

imma be honest , challengers seems all over the place and i personally do not find the games interesting, but what i do find interesting is the emerging talent pool coming from this ripe hotbed of players.

here's my thoughts on the winning players of challengers so far:

n4rrate - classic reliable ranked player, can never go wrong with him. he is a star player, no matter what the outcome of a match is. he boasts a 160 adr, highest in the league, and a 0.22fk/0.17fd per round, only Dgzin matches his fk rate with a 0.14 fd, but DGZIN is not playing in a tier 2 league. although his demand isn't high for most teams in the regional league, he is still a hot topic, he could be someone NRG look for, if Ardiis doesn't work out in the long run, He is a jett player? check, chamber player? check (meta could change), raze player? check. his neon could be a bit iffy, but we have victor for that. He isn't just a 1 trick chamber, and could be a derke in the making., but theres a long way to go for him.

oxy - same as narrate but needs more guidance

Trent - sort of a flex player, better than most in his league, mostly plays sova with viper and raze when needed. hes a consistent player quietening down from the previous expectation set by many people, although i still do not think he's ready for t1, he is still a top contender, above many. we have a tendency to overrate many players and we also have a tendency to be underrate some players not giving them a chance at all. and right now his rating by the community is definitely optimal. i would not know which teams in the league would benefit from him, i just dont watch enough to know rly.

nismo - top quality initiator, his impact is noticed by everyone in the server, boasting a 0.55 APR(assists) and topping in KD second to his teammate koalanoob. i know right now he 0-8 vs dsg on haven, it is serously bad timing. who cares anyway, his flashes are reliable and a great support. i do not see M80 breaking apart their team except for maybe sentinels, so they are ripe to qualify for americas league i hope.

Zander and skuba - great controllers

verno - almost a sova 1 trick but he could be made to be adaptable, just need the right guidance. see a lot of potential

Valyn and Johnqt - IGLs topping the the league, much needed for 100t, Valyn would be a great fit.

yay - obligatory yay

i will not make comments on MXM since i do not watch their games.

Edit: I will be putting sym and koalanoob on the list, I apologise for my ignorance and lack of open mindedness

#2
JustEnjoying
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yay - obligatory yay

#3
zirty_zoggy
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where is koala

#7
h786
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i already have oxy and narrate, slightly better than him

#8
ambo69
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literally the 2 best duelist in challengers are sym and koala

#19
1mBor3d
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yay clear (s)

#4
namzelor
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T2 player ≠ T2 Scene

If aspas was to suddenly play in the T2 scene he wouldn't be a T2 player.

get yay out of there lol

#6
h786
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dont care.

#11
widepeepofrosty
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HOLYYYYY

#21
Sita_MOE
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yay chamber abuser tier 2 player for sure

#25
uwukitten
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derke jett abuser tier 2 player for sure

#28
Sita_MOE
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yeah riot fault ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#5
ambo69
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lmao oxyy

#9
gamr
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although i still do not think he's ready for t1

no one cares what u think lmao, franchise orgs think hes ready and thats enough

#10
h786
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flair + don't care.

#12
gamr
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less people care about what you have to say. saying trent isnt ready for tier 1 has to be the most braindead take ive seen on this site today

#13
h786
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brotha, will you ever just shut up? i just said right now, not until playoffs and the whole league finishes. he will be ready after the roster lock finshes, which is next year.

#14
ambo69
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trent has already been to an international LAN lmao

#15
gamr
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no im not shutting up until you become less of a retard. how can someone who was ready for franchising since august 2022 be not ready for franchising now when he has maintained his level of play, if not stepped up

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ambo69
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own that fraud!!!!

#22
Cresp
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Brother he already competed with optic which won that reykjavic

#37
h786
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Hush. You will not see him in t1 this year either way :D. He will be ready by then.

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bro you got T1 flair, Guard will clap T1 any day

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I know you said you weren’t talking about Mxm but I think thief is a pretty underrated controller and aproto is super solid sentinel. Ready for t1 idk about that but they’re doing well rn

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Sita_MOE
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from role
controller - skuba
duelist - trent
flex - flyuh (IGL)
flex - Rossy
sentinels - v1c

#18
Subreezy
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why do you not watch MXM games, odd thing to say

#20
gamr
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i dont think he watches any of the games with these bumass takes

#26
h786
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I do not give a single care if you are butthurt by my opinion about Trent (I am literally a bunch of pixels on the internet)

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gamr
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im not butthurt, im dying from ur complete lack of any understanding of NA VCL

#41
pandoradox
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Guy is just obnoxious with his take. Goes on to comment about Challengers and says i dont watch a certain team but no my opinion is valid because i said so. I decide who is ready for T1/T2 better than people actually paying salary to them. Just another vlr user who thinks his takes are valid and everyone should just accept it

#42
h786
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Yep u read my mind

#43
pandoradox
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Flair

#23
Cresp
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Wtf n4rrate and no sym
No reduxx
No net
No koala
NO EEIU BEST INITIATOR IN THE WORLD
Yeah bud u dont watch tier 2 stop talking shit

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h786
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Flair + I mentioned 2 of m80 anyway. I think nismo is a better initiator than eeiu. My mistake about koala, I’ll take that one. Again, didn’t see the hype in mxm so I didn’t watch them ( I have no time to watch all the games stop getting mad, I’ll probably watch mxm anyway, in the playoffs, again hop off please stop telling me to watch more games than I need to) net is not better than Johnqt, who IGL’s and has a bigger agent pool including nets.

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Cresp
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“Flair🤓🤓🤓” blud is not in the know. Net is a secondary caller and has been primary igl on some maps for the guard. Flyuh is the most promising igls as hes super young and can probably become one of the best in the world if he keeps improving at his rate. Koala is a safe player that is so much more fundamentally better than both duelists you said. “Dont tell me to watch more games” youre the one with the uninformed opinion dickhead.

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h786
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Of the top duelists, do you see them play like koala or n4rrate and oxy? Yep thought so. I will watch the playoffs , these games are too much for me including America’s league shut up man. Flyuh has definitely improved since faze , looking forward to watching him.

#36
Sita_MOE
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m80 ordinary team

#39
Cresp
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Word

#24
mocaxoxo
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governor is so underrated i feel

#31
cocoluna
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N4rrate is demon1 Ranked demons and that translate well to Pro play

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Squeezhy
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Where sym and JonahP

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jawn
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trent is the truth stop disrespecting bro

#38
Marved-NA-Savior
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I agree with everything here, but since u dont watch MXM, I'd swap Oxy with Sym and yes both of them can use guidance as well, and also Brawk is up there as well imo.
Good take. It'd be nice to see these guys in Tier1.

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randomperson
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no neT is an L

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