the recency bias on this comment is insane... first minny was a very good player when he was actually on his real role, second he was still fragging out on duelist for a few of their previous matches, third there are so many players in emea history that are way worse 😭

based on round differential:
25 FUR
23 KC
23 DFM
24 TEC I think
I counted these last year but pretty sure there wouldn't be any teams this year that beat them out: https://www.vlr.gg/527952/worst-franchising-teams-of-all-time/#4

FINALLY

Immi notable results:
2026 -
2025 -
2024 -
2023 -
2022 -
2021 - 5-6th Masters Reykjavik V1

Fns in the very beginning used to be genuine

maybe like tenz to vitality if he hadn't retired

100T 3-2 PRX
MVP: Asuna

Immi notable results:
2026 -
2025 -
2024 -
2023 -
2022 -
2021 - 5-6th Masters Reykjavik V1

How is immi still here??

unironically governor

L

Nova Wolves

can't believe no one mentioned literally any round from 2023 karmine corp
most memorable is the melons one but don't forget xms smoking off his op and nivera forgetting to buy after winning their first round vs TL (then clutching with classic)

Tejo - goatvernor

13X0 · 13x0.com.br
[VALORANT] Seed: #VLR-S1BQ0
Result: CHAMPION
Run: 6-1 | Maps: 11-3
Overall: 94
MVP: Saadhak

Duelista: alexy (96)
Iniciador: Sacy (96)
Controlador: Karon (95)
Sentinela: CHICHOO (96)
Flex: Saadhak (95)

Play at: https://13x0.com.br

13X0 · 13x0.com.br
[VALORANT] Seed: #VLR-W3OSU
Result: RUNNER-UP
Run: 6-1 | Maps: 11-4
Overall: 93
MVP: something

Duelista: something (97)
Iniciador: Chronicle (97)
Controlador: MaKo (98)
Sentinela: nAts (98)
Flex: TenZ (97)

Play at: https://13x0.com.br

Superteam lost to G2 Gozen no way.....

13X0 · 13x0.com.br
[VALORANT] Seed: #VLR-LOQJI
Result: FELL IN THE QUARTERFINAL
Run: 3-2 | Maps: 5-3
Overall: 91
MVP: aspas

Duelista: cNed (96)
Iniciador: Sacy (96)
Controlador: MaKo (98)
Sentinela: Zest (88)
Flex: aspas (99)

Play at: https://13x0.com.br

How does this lose to 2021 V1 😭😭

Rossy

Our bench might be one of the worst in the league as well, never seen any of them do anything useful

Emea:

1. FNC
2. VIT
3. BBL

Americas:

1. G2
2. NRG
3. LEV

Pacific:

1. PRX
2. T1
3. RRQ

China:

1. BLG
2. XLG
3. TYL

2025 Furia is the only correct answer. They lost 70 more rounds (not including sub roster) compared to the second worst team, 2023 DFM.
https://www.vlr.gg/534476/worst-franchising-teams-of-all-time-part-2/#24

I will try but i'm sure theres someone out there that can do it faster lol

you are so right king bob let me put them in number 1 rq

🤔

Their round diff during 2023 actually wasn't that bad, they even ended up being positive during the regular season. I might've missed 2024 GE tho I'll check them

Now that all stage 2 games have been completed, here are the worst franchising teams of all time completed from my last post (https://www.vlr.gg/527952/worst-franchising-teams-of-all-time). Ranking is pretty subjective but winning games is what matters so I weighted that category higher.
games // maps // round differential

1. 2025 FUR: 0-12 // 3-24 // -180 (I didn't include the kickoff sub game but even if I did they would still have -166 rounds)
2. 2023 DFM: 0-11 // 2-22 // -110
3. 2025 APKS: 0-12 // 7-24 // -104
4. 2024 BLD: 1-11 // 8-23 // -92
5. 2024 DFM: 2-10 // 7-21 // -104
6. 2025 2G: 2-10 // 7-21 // -97
7. 2025 KOI: 2-10 // 8-20 // -84
8. 2023 MIBR: 3-8 // 7-19 // -90
9. 2024 FUR: 3-9 // 8-19 // -89
10. 2025 M8: 3-11 // 13-24 // -81
11. 2023 KC: 4-10 // 9-23 // -105
12. 2024 MIBR: 4-11 // 10-23 // -85

(HM: 2025 DFM, 2025 GE, 2024 GX, 2025 NOVA all between -80 and -70 round diff)

i only joined during the second half of the last map but that was already better than all of the na challengers games i've seen 😭

IVE BEEN MISSING OUT THIS IS PEAK

dang I didn't think they were that bad so I didn't include them in the original but you're right. as long as they win against apeks tho they're probably safe from the top 5 list

Furia is in the original post at the bottom
2025 Apeks: -83 round differential, 6-20 in maps, 0-10 in games

different teams

txozin 👻👻👻

I was watching the plat chat episode and the viewer question made me wonder which franchising teams are actually the worst of all time, so I collected the map and round differential data on all the teams that are generally considered to be bad. I only took official VCT circuit matches into consideration, so EWC and other off season events don't count but Lock In, 2023 LCQs, and Kickoffs do.

Statistically worst teams of all time:

1. 2023 DFM: -110 round differential, 2-22 in maps, 0-11 in games.
2. 2024 BLD: -92 round differential, 8-23 in maps, 1-11 in games.
3. 2024 DFM: -104 round differential, 8-22 in maps, 2-10 in games.
4. 2023 MIBR: -90 round differential, 7-19 in maps, 3-8 in games.
5. 2023 KC: -105 round differential, 9-23 in maps, 4-10 in games. (Despite having the second lowest round differential they also won more games so they're not as bad)

I didn't count any of the 2025 teams since the season is still going on but if I did, 2025 Furia would be in first with a -150 round differential, 3-20 in maps, 0-10 in games (this is over the two different rosters though and also not including their first kickoff game with 5 subs).

Oh yeah you're right I did forget about that part

Where are you getting 10 days from?

plus playing against the best team in the world 3 weeks before a tournament is kinda perfect>

So then emea should've done better at Toronto because they were still playing stage 1 3 weeks before Toronto started?

I meant the EWC top 4 all played in Toronto

But the top 4 were all in Toronto, and 3/4 of them were in playoffs so by your argument shouldn’t they have all done worse?

mfers will do anything but credit the actual team that won 😭🙏

Yeah I 100% agree with that tbh but it’s impossible for people to be positive on vlr :/

I’m sorry to tell you but this happens with every single popular team 😭

david chamber

let's go prx

what 😭

1/8 for putting in the effort to edit

0/8

get sean gares on this dude

please put amy back on senti... shes a good enough player to be decent on init but her senti is gc world class

Didn’t know who to choose between Yuicaw and Lysoar so we’ll see

Texture -> jingg igl
Patmen
Spring
Foxy9 -> Leaf
Kushy -> Yuicaw
Crashies