Sutecas about VKS (probably about Sacy)

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Pedim

Sutecas, former VKS player, is now telling on Twitch his experiences during VKS (potential indirect to Sacy), speaking up after Less statements.

Some quotes:

"You don't have to destroy someone's mind to win...I don't wish this on anyone, to go through what i've got. [...] I've had shitty thoughts, you know. Really shitty thoughts." (He was crying during this one)
"After champions, I've received two offers, but I hadn't mental conditions to keep playing. You don't have to destroy someone's career. [...] But what goes around...comes around."
"I felt just like Less, feeling I was a garbage, as someone who couldn't play. I think my level of game just dipped down after that"

So, a "certain vks player" moral harassment almost drove a human being to suicide. What do you guys think of that?

EDIT 1

Sutecas didn't mention a specific VKS player. However, at some point, he was clearly talking about a singular person "você (you) don't have to...." (in portuguese, "You" is singular).

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reversexd

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holy shit how bad can u idiots over exaggerate

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burritx

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LMAO

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alitmanus

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vro wants upfrags from braindead people like him

you'll have it

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Pedim

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As someone who was born in Brazil but now lives in an English-speaking country, I am just sharing what a former VKS player is saying.

The judgment is up to you.

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Moiraine

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thank you for sharing
dont let the whiners stop you from sharing this stuff

We dont speak portuguese so most of us would have no clue wtf is happening if you or some others didnt translate for us.

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Nilonesia

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Ty for translating, but you did indicate you thought it may be about the LOUD Sacy drama. So this isn’t completely neutral, however I do agree that peopl shouldn’t bitch as much cause we can have our opinions.

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Dybala21

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Its vlr what can we expect

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Asuna_Yuuki

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If true I wonder if Sacy is doing this to SEN players

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alitmanus

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He is. He said on his stream that he often calls zekken "merdinha" in portuguese, which means "Little shit"

then he said he was just kidding... haha!

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daebak

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little shit is not that big of an insult

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Pedim

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Agree. Sutecas is talking about a much more serious moral harassment.

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daebak

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id even argue its not an insult at all some people use it endearingly

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jackb2016

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As homer simpson said to his beloved son bart, WHY YOU LITTLE

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Itsover

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is it really an insult? Solo from VP Dota always called Ramzes "pizdjuk" (pretty rude way to say "youngin" in Russian) because of their 10y age diff, and Ramzes says that Solo is like his older bro/second dad, they've been playing together for 5 years on and off

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Cresp

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Yes but zekken has spoken about how even the coaches encourage each other to be mad and take accountability with each other. Maybe sacy found the right team to fit in.

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Finth

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I hope not, maybe he changed because his goal now is to grow cash not bonds. Sorry for translator errors

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number1_MIBR_hater

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Highly doubt, he even changed roles to do what they wanted

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Pedim

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I don't think so. Sacy said multiple times that he didnt enjoy being a leader/second caller. If he was really toxic before, I dont believe he found pleasure in it - Just reproduced the way he learned.

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SamBR

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BULLSHIT

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Pedim

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Could be. Either way, I think there is a valid discusson in all this: how far is it ok to demand/push/offend in esports?

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SaltyMcNulty

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I just turned to his stream. I don't understand any portuguese but bro is crying! Must have been a traumatic experience.

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Pedim

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Yeah, he's really crying. I felt for him. He was a good player. Sad to see someone give up due to mental breakdown.

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Marshal_D_Teach

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It's sad, but he wasn't a good player.

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Shidoh

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greater potential than some in the league.

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Marshal_D_Teach

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I don't know, bro. I mean, there were plenty of smokers better than him back then

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Chow1E

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sadhaak or sacy, bcs both from ex vks

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Shidoh

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not saadhak

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Pedim

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At some point, Sutecas pointed out that a player in VKS tried to help him, giving him some voice in the roster. I have reasons to believe that this player was Saadhaak: Sutecas read some Tweets of saadhaak's wife after (about toxic behaviour)

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Marshal_D_Teach

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https://twitter.com/sutecasfps/status/1583298318360158208

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Shidoh

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honestly? this proves nothing. Sacy was always a successful player in the scene, people tend to respect him. besides: sutecas was depressed and feeling like shit, he always thought he was the one to blame. LOUD roster was working, and Sacy was a big part of the reason.
he literally said that Less making those statements made him think he wasn't the only one. just use your brain a little bit.

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kqly_was_framed

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No disrespect to Sacy but Idk how these dudes are letting somebody who is literally 5 foot/160cm and round as a ball make you feel this bad about yourself. Separate the game from reality and once you do that, you’ll realize somebody else’s opinion on you shouldn’t matter that much.

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danii1

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Just exaggerating

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LuffyVlr

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He never once implied it's about ONLY sacy. He most likely was referring to both sacy/saadhak and the ambience of the team in general.
He always made clear that he wasn't pointing fingers to anyone.

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Pedim

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Added a note about it to main post.

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BronzilianYoru

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A distorted note.

"You" is a way of saying it, but doesn't mean he was talking directly to someone.

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Pedim

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He was clearly talking about someone, dude. He even said "tudo que vai volta".

Other interpretation is just malabarism.

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BronzilianYoru

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? It's obvious that he was talking about someone, Or he would be talking about a rock?

I'm just saying that you are distorting everything. He never specified if it was one or more people, and never specified if it was Sacy that did everything he said.

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Peteer

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Saad or Sacy, who?

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GiancioZ

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i just remembered this guy ever existed

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ax0788

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boohoo I got harassed by better players to get good and I felt bad, cry me a river bro. Man up and keep quiet. no wonder he not a top tier player with this personality. SACY is the goat.

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NAclearsSA

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Least hateful SEN fan

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NOCAPPPA

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only we are allowed to talk shit about our players, if someone else does get ready to face the horde( if the horde still exists after tenz is benched)

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waelkhrais

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ist true!

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Pedim

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Just to make it clear: I'm not and I havent be a Sacy hater or something like that. Some days ago, I even defend Sacy against some false claims Loud fans have been producing. My intention was to share portuguese content with english-speakers.

Judgment to te matter is up to you guys.

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nutab1e

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you said that already bozo

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Pedim

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Are u mad bro?

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nutab1e

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why would I be mad, just funny seeing you shit your pants when your biased post isn't agreed with

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Pedim

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I already expected some backlash from sentinels/sacy fans. I'm really not concerned with some bootlickers. Just trying to clarify my intentions and point of views for those with some reason.

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nutab1e

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you said that already bozo

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Pedim

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US average IQ sample

#56

nutab1e

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that wasn't very 'Judgment to te matter is up to you guys.' of you

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Pedim

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Are u really that dumb? Omfg.

#60

nutab1e

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toxic! 💔🐶💔

continue thread →

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yawnster

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💔🐶💔

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fmadwerdna

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how can someone even defend this? literally worse than the people shitting on tenz when his wife has cancer wtf

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hekzy

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fully expected SEN player behaviour

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Mortadelo

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I do not feel too much sensitivity on this post over a dude fucking crying on stream. There's plenty of threads with subjective stuff that can be debated but that dude is crying, we do not know what but definitely something happened so let's leave the fanatisms to a side. And be a little sensitive with the dude

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NOCAPPPA

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any clip enjoyers please help

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SENTINELA_SACY_FAN

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🫵🤡

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Pedim

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Good point.

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Stlk

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Sutecas literally entered ODK right after Champs, just saying bullshit

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inlucid

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clima da VKS tava uma merda, lembro do sacy dizendo que no bootcamp antes do Champions eles estavam perdendo TODAS as scrims de stomp, papo de 2x24 contra tier 2 europeu. Isso só começou a mudar 1~2 semanas antes do camp começar pois o Sacy começou a aplicar um novo tipo de macro no time. Depois, perder de a virada de 12x5 pra Gambit deve ter destruído o mental dos caras, tanto que perderam de 2x0 seco pra Team Secret

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sn4ke_gg

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Sacy has a mamba mentality, love it or leave it, that's up to you

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Pedim

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Btw, in both cases (Loud and VKS), there are clear mistakes from the organizations themselves, such as managers, psychologists, and others. It is concerning how a team environment can reach such a point without proper management. Loud is being hypocritical, to say the least.

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SENTINELA_SACY_FAN

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🫵🤡