Has EMEA fallen?

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Martinao

They have a lot of mediocre players in franchise
not many exciting upcoming talents in tier 2 (only really good one is something and he plays in APAC kekw)
leagues are almost dead

Thoughts?

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FooBar

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Always has been 😹😹

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Martinao

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Still better than pacific

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FooBar

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RRQ could easily farm SaltyMEA 😹😹

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meyournightmare

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lil bro forgot to take meds again 🗿

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FooBar

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A guy who put beans on toast talking 😹😹

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Kkonakorner

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im pretty sure hes indian,also rrq literally got dogged by fut lmfao

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bricky_

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W, remove those beans and thats a perfect english breakfast

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FooBar

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Their taste is as low as their viewership counts 😹😹

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Kkonakorner

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imagine that a British player has won a trophy before all of asia lmfaoo

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FooBar

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A showcase event doesn't count 😹😹

Win Masters/Champions first then you're allowed to talk 😹😹

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Kkonakorner

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win anything in general first then your allowed to talk 😹 😹

continue thread →

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meyournightmare

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a region with zero tournament winner should not talk about a region with 2 masters 1 championship and lock-in winning region 💀💀

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Gutssz

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not many exciting upcoming talents in tier 2 (only really good one is something and he plays in APAC kekw)

Turks have at least 10 young talents my friend 💀💀

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Martinao

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Turks are overrated except lauress

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Gutssz

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cNed owns ur cheater region

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Martinao

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He got diffed by heat

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Gutssz

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Heat eliminated by APAC team and cNed became champion 💀💀

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Martinao

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Yea thanks to the shady gringo org riot.
VK was broken after that unfair lose and lost their mental

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Kkonakorner

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lmfaoo next level schizophrenia take, oh no poor vk it was surely rigged for acend,maybe someone should tell them to not cheat next time :(

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Moiraine

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Oh no brazilian team cheated by using a known forbidden cypher cam and got punished for it (shouldve been instant disqualification just like other teams that used it and yet riot was nice enough to let them play for it).

You're pathetic.

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eszett

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4 brazilian players have a champions meanwhile just one turkish has LMAO

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Gutssz

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but we are not cheater so ez win for Turkey

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eszett

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report to riot, bro

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DrudaL

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what happend to turks org, why they can't recognize good talent? alfa, cned

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Kkonakorner

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wdym recocnize

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orqn

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-not many exciting upcoming talents in tier 2 (only really good one is something and he plays in APAC kekw)

Just because you don’t watch emea t2 (can’t blame you) doesn’t mean there are no talents 😭

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Pengu12

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I heckin love keiko and woot

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Mortadelo

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It's okay if you do not know the scene

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Martinao

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do you want me to believe that teams with ecis kryptix mistic will change that?

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Mortadelo

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Are any of those 3 "upcoming"?
Also now that you mention Mistic at Apeks, Keiko is a great young promise

That is literally like saying NA's upcoming talent are Shazham and Dapr

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Pengu12

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I heckin love keiko

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Mortadelo

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He is cracked

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Martinao

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You see how the level of Emea tier 2 is when looking at wolfed. He farmed these frauds and is now one of the biggest frauds in franchise himself

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WinterZ

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difference being Wolfen was a Chamber main whereas these guys are playing non-broken agents.

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Mortadelo

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Or you could also look at last years tier 2 champions https://www.vlr.gg/167372/fut-esports-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-qf

The winner of the first split tier 2 is also at tier 1, I'm sure you do know Twisten who actually beat Alfajer on that tournament. But that is not good talent is it?

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Martinao

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Fut are mediocre

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Mortadelo

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Fut are cracked af and have a great chance of making Tokyo actually. Much better than what they did at lock in, first lan event for all of them

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Gqviria

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"Twisten who actually beat alfajer on that tournament" Thats not true, i completely agree with your take tho, just that sentence is wrong, BIG beat surreal.

To hype a player, you don't have to downgrade another one.

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Mortadelo

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Well Twisten beat Alfajer that tournament. That's literally what happened. I'm not bringing down Alfajer, I'm putting into context how good the tier 2 scene is that a player as good and successful as Alfajer had equally good matchups

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nutab1e

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just give it 5 years, their tier 2 scene is so dysfunctional that BUMEA will run out of players

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Kkonakorner

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why would it get worse over time,valorant has more than enough room to grow in emea

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meyournightmare

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wait 2 months , no NA team will qualify for masters 💀

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ColdWKey

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Just give it a couple years and NA won’t even have NA players on the NA teams

LCS all over again because the region (just like in every major esports) isn’t competitive

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south_eastindian

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weird ways to type NA

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Adrik

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Bro misspelt NA

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Qwertyy

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only mediocre players in NA franchising are on EG, NA has a LOT of upcoming talents in T2, and NA VCL is the most watched vcl worldwide

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AvgRossiFan

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Tarik carrying the viewership

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WinterZ

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No.

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adrianbosul

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KOI has the potential to become a top team with its roster for several reasons:

Experienced and Talented Players: KOI has a roster that includes players with significant experience and success in the competitive Valorant scene. koldamenta, who serves as the In-Game Leader (IGL), has previously played for GUILD and brings valuable leadership skills to the team. starxo, who won VCT: Champions 2021 playing for Acent, has proven to be a top-tier player with exceptional mechanical skills. sheydos, who won Masters: Berlin 2021 with Gambit and then M3C, is a proven performer at the highest level of competition. trexx, who played for GUILD, is a seasoned player with a wealth of experience. Wolfen, although relatively new to pro play, brings potential and fresh perspectives to the team.
Excellent Coaching Staff: KOI has a strong coaching staff with notable names in the Valorant scene. BARBARR as the Head Coach, goked as the Coach, and Bambino as the Assistant Coach provide valuable strategic guidance, game analysis, and mentoring to the players. Their expertise and experience can help the team improve their coordination, teamwork, and overall performance.
Impressive Results: KOI has already demonstrated their potential by winning a match against NAVI in the EMEA League. This early success showcases the team's ability to compete at a high level and compete against established teams. https://www.vlr.gg/173215/koi-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w1
Diverse Skill Sets: The roster of KOI is well-rounded with players who bring different strengths and playstyles to the team. From experienced IGL to mechanical fraggers, KOI has a balanced mix of players who can adapt to various situations and roles in the game, making them a versatile and formidable team.
Strong Team Dynamics: Building team chemistry and communication is crucial in any esports team, and KOI has the potential to develop strong team dynamics. With a combination of experienced players and a capable coaching staff, the team can work on their communication, coordination, and strategies to maximize their potential and rise to the top.

Overall, KOI has a promising roster with a blend of talent, experience, coaching, and potential for team synergy. With continued hard work, dedication, and improvement, KOI has the potential to become a top team in the competitive Valorant scene.

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deadpark

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tldr.

Kidding, good job explaining all that

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orthoboy

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still the best competitive region and regional leagues have lot of talent every top turkish team has loads of potential they need good coaching and protocols

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ax0788

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ah yes fallen region :( we only have 2 masters and 1 champions.. but they dont count i guess.

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Martinao

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You know what fallen means? Maybe the English lessons in Sweden should be revised

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flair.

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Shownu

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Alfajer solos your region so it don't matter.

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Jawa

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Number of ranked players in EMEA: 1,769,661
Number of ranked players in BR: 127,056

Imagine having a talent pool 14 times bigger... BR would be unstoppable

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GreyDaze

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Comparing an entire continent with a country😂😂😂

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Jawa

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but of course... when it comes to valorant, an entire continent is a region and so is a country

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GreyDaze

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Sadly when u are comparing playerbases that's now how it works

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Jawa

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I was comparing valorant regions

one region has 1,769,661 players, the other has 127,056

not that hard to understand...

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Dokka

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if youre comparing regions you'd have to compare americas to emea

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Jawa

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lmao it was never a thing till lock in, months ago BR was still considered a "minor region"

I can see already that NA and BR will be the same region only when convenient, for some...

nice try though

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Dokka

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BR was stopped being considered a minor region when they made finals back in Iceland 😭😭😭
Maybe people said "one team region" (I didn't) but no one serious said that their best team was a "minor" team

The regions for tier one valorant are EMEA, Pacific and Americas

If you want to consider T2 valorant which is being discussed here as Brazilian Ascension, Latam Ascension, NA ascension, which you should imo
the same should be applied to the VRL's thus lowering the numbers for 1.7 million to the playerbases of the VRLS

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Jawa

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I'm just saying that there was no such thing as "Americas" until lock-in

for every single masters and champions till this date, there were a number of slots for each region. BR beign one of the regions, had less slots than NA, for example

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Dokka

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And you're right

But because franchising has redefined the scene, there is no point viewing modern franchising, it from that lens of previous slots etc etc etc. unless you're reminiscing on the past
(which is fine tbh, I reminisce about September 2021 all the time)

continue thread →

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hekzy

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Another EMEA hate thread yawn

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zeldrols

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Bro emea is fine maybe Even better. The reality is no one watches or follows tier 2 emea. They have talents but unlike tier 2 NA where tarik costream and there's a lot of drama ppl don't watch emea lol

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T1 EMEA is way better than ever in my opinion. the competition is actually close to eachother unlike before. The thing is EMEA valorant esports is boring compared to pacific and americas (unbiased opinion). T2 scene has kinda gone to shit with a shit ton of leagues and very little talent growing to T1 level there