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Dephh

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#1
SaltyMcNulty

People make it seem like the guy can't aim for shit but that's not the case at all, rather he dies a lot cz he throws himself on the line for his team to succeed. He would constantly help his team with his util, which is the correct way to play support agents but the downside is that you don't have too much util for yourself. He doesn't play for kills, he plays for wins. Dapr rarely goes positive on the scoreboard but SEN fans love him cz when he gets kills they are mostly impact kills. Dephh is the same type of player who also had to play out of his comfort zone but regardless he made it work. 5 star players in a team would never work. You need players who are selfless so that the stars can shine. I hope he doesn't change his playstyle and become a bitch who baits his teammates to get kills. At the end of the day, community opinions don't matter, coaches/teams will see a player for who they are and what they bring to the table.

TL:DR- Read it ya lil bitch. If your time was so precious you wouldn't be on vlr !

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Nezko_
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didnt read but good for u

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kaesra
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tldr; fns but british

#4
rosso4000
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w take highkey

#5
GreyDaze
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W. He is an upgrade over shahzam

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NANNE
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kaesra [#3]

tldr; fns but british

and has good aim

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zardinez
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NANNE [#6]

and has good aim

but worse midrounding

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SaltyMcNulty
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A prime example of selfishness costing you games would be SEN's Icebox game against TGRD. I think after such lackluster regular season, at LCQ everyone on the team was afraid of losing their job. I felt like that subconsciously made them play for stats. Otherwise why would dapr refuse to plant the bomb as a sage? They were sacrificing their controller with the utility for postplant when the sage was already all they way up with the wall. And shroud afterwards said that even though he thought it was weird, he didn't resist cz he was the new guy and thought his teammates would surely know better! That selfishness cost us the map at least imo. I have never seen dapr or anyone else on this team be that selfish until SEN started losing.

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SaltyMcNulty [#8]

A prime example of selfishness costing you games would be SEN's Icebox game against TGRD. I think after such lackluster regular season, at LCQ everyone on the team was afraid of losing their job. I felt like that subconsciously made them play for stats. Otherwise why would dapr refuse to plant the bomb as a sage? They were sacrificing their controller with the utility for postplant when the sage was already all they way up with the wall. And shroud afterwards said that even though he thought it was weird, he didn't resist cz he was the new guy and thought his teammates would surely know better! That selfishness cost us the map at least imo. I have never seen dapr or anyone else on this team be that selfish until SEN started losing.

That was likely more of a mistake than an active decision to sell postplant for stats lol......

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SaltyMcNulty
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kaesra [#3]

tldr; fns but british

Has better aim than FNS but FNS could easily fix it by bringing his fkn monitor a bit closer to his eyes! Mans more worried about losing his eyesight than being embarrassed live on twitch.tv, couldn't be me tbh.

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babysasuke [#9]

That was likely more of a mistake than an active decision to sell postplant for stats lol......

One time I would let it pass as mistake but multiple times? That shit was deliberate cz Rawkus clearly said that it wasn't the plan for shroud to plant bombs. You deviate from the gameplan multiple times and lose round for it but you don't notice it? That's just horseshit.

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SaltyMcNulty [#11]

One time I would let it pass as mistake but multiple times? That shit was deliberate cz Rawkus clearly said that it wasn't the plan for shroud to plant bombs. You deviate from the gameplan multiple times and lose round for it but you don't notice it? That's just horseshit.

Where's the tac timeout then?

Rawkus is there watching the games, after the second time he saw Shroud plant instead of daprhe should have said something

or Shahzam

There's no way they identified that problem during the game and just chose to keep doing it

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SaltyMcNulty [#11]

One time I would let it pass as mistake but multiple times? That shit was deliberate cz Rawkus clearly said that it wasn't the plan for shroud to plant bombs. You deviate from the gameplan multiple times and lose round for it but you don't notice it? That's just horseshit.

Wait you make a good point here, in terms of talking about diviating from the gameplan multiple times and don't notice it? I always found it strange when Rawkus and ShahZ said "No Shroud planting the bomb was never the plan, Dapr should have been doing it" How did no one notice that many rounds in a row that they had no post plant util from their Viper because THEY WERE FUCKING DEAD PLANTING THE BOMB? How did Dapr, a PROFESSIONAL PLAYER not realise "Hey fuck, I don't have the bomb" or "Wait, why aren't I planting?" I'm not saying they were playing for stats but I just never understood how it went "unnoticed" for soo many rounds?

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babysasuke
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Tyzehhxo [#13]

Wait you make a good point here, in terms of talking about diviating from the gameplan multiple times and don't notice it? I always found it strange when Rawkus and ShahZ said "No Shroud planting the bomb was never the plan, Dapr should have been doing it" How did no one notice that many rounds in a row that they had no post plant util from their Viper because THEY WERE FUCKING DEAD PLANTING THE BOMB? How did Dapr, a PROFESSIONAL PLAYER not realise "Hey fuck, I don't have the bomb" or "Wait, why aren't I planting?" I'm not saying they were playing for stats but I just never understood how it went "unnoticed" for soo many rounds?

but thats not just on dapr

whoever had the bomb should know that dapr was supposed to have

Shahzam and rawkus should have been paying attention to these things

its a team failure for sure, but there's no way it was on purpose so dapr could farm stats on sage, thats just stupid

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babysasuke [#14]

but thats not just on dapr

whoever had the bomb should know that dapr was supposed to have

Shahzam and rawkus should have been paying attention to these things

its a team failure for sure, but there's no way it was on purpose so dapr could farm stats on sage, thats just stupid

Very true, I probably shouldn't have made it come across that it was soley Dapr's fault. I think it was more a fault on ShahZ and Rawkus. That Icebox game was a disaster and SEN were meme'd about it for awhile. It just always struck me as odd on why they didn't call the time out and talk about why their Viper was even planting the bomb in the first place.

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babysasuke [#12]

Where's the tac timeout then?

Rawkus is there watching the games, after the second time he saw Shroud plant instead of daprhe should have said something

or Shahzam

There's no way they identified that problem during the game and just chose to keep doing it

dapr asked shroud to plant the bomb, shroud said it himself.

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SaltyMcNulty [#16]

dapr asked shroud to plant the bomb, shroud said it himself.

in the coms that the whole team can hear?

Lets say dapr is in the wrong, there's 4 other players in coms listening to this and watching this happen and no one bats an eye?

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Tyzehhxo [#13]

Wait you make a good point here, in terms of talking about diviating from the gameplan multiple times and don't notice it? I always found it strange when Rawkus and ShahZ said "No Shroud planting the bomb was never the plan, Dapr should have been doing it" How did no one notice that many rounds in a row that they had no post plant util from their Viper because THEY WERE FUCKING DEAD PLANTING THE BOMB? How did Dapr, a PROFESSIONAL PLAYER not realise "Hey fuck, I don't have the bomb" or "Wait, why aren't I planting?" I'm not saying they were playing for stats but I just never understood how it went "unnoticed" for soo many rounds?

That's what I am saying. it's not like dapr could stay back either cz he had to go up to put up the wall, if he at least took aggressive duels going on top of his wall they wouldn't have been able to break it so instantly. SicK used to do that all the time, remember that T1 game where he singlehandedly saved the team playing sage?

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SaltyMcNulty [#18]

That's what I am saying. it's not like dapr could stay back either cz he had to go up to put up the wall, if he at least took aggressive duels going on top of his wall they wouldn't have been able to break it so instantly. SicK used to do that all the time, remember that T1 game where he singlehandedly saved the team playing sage?

Yeah I remember that, I think SEN really struggled with the absense of sicK towards the end of year.

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symbols07
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kaesra [#3]

tldr; fns but british

calling him fns is rating him a level or two higher than he is

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kaesra
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symbols07 [#20]

calling him fns is rating him a level or two higher than he is

thats why i added he's british

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SaltyMcNulty
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babysasuke [#17]

in the coms that the whole team can hear?

Lets say dapr is in the wrong, there's 4 other players in coms listening to this and watching this happen and no one bats an eye?

yes it's shahz/rawkus's fault as well but why would dapr go against the norm which is sage planting the bomb? If he was to go against the regular then he had to have making plays like SicK did against t1,no? Otherwise you are just sitting duck giving away space and waiting to die. In real time I doubt anyone would call their teammate out for being selfish, they including dapr probably realized it after. He most likely did it subconsciously bc of backlash for bottom fragging or not going positive and being a bomb bitch is definitely a recipe for going negative.

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SaltyMcNulty
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Tyzehhxo [#19]

Yeah I remember that, I think SEN really struggled with the absense of sicK towards the end of year.

People forget how good he was on anything but smokes. Instead of signing a smoke player we signed a flex player and put one of the best flex players on smokes. what a tragedy! sad to see he doesn't have a place on the roster rn.

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kaesra [#21]

thats why i added he's british

no, i was trying to say is that you should have commented....
"tldr; british"

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Tyzehhxo
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SaltyMcNulty [#23]

People forget how good he was on anything but smokes. Instead of signing a smoke player we signed a flex player and put one of the best flex players on smokes. what a tragedy! sad to see he doesn't have a place on the roster rn.

Yeah honestly that was fucking tragic, Watching him on Astra was literally making me want to stick needles in my eyes, and they fucking stick Kanpeki on his role!?? LIKE WHAT??!!

#26
1mBor3d
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W

#27
MourninggStarr
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exactly, he's like steel and hiko, people flame em but they are really the smartest players to ever play val

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SaltyMcNulty
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MourninggStarr [#27]

exactly, he's like steel and hiko, people flame em but they are really the smartest players to ever play val

He doesn't bait like Hiko tho!

#29
pally
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Nezko_ [#2]

didnt read but good for u

tiktok attention span moment

#30
danii1
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pally [#29]

tiktok attention span moment

LMFAO

#31
horse69
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wayyy better than shahzam so all good

#32
brobeans
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tldr

#33
Mttn
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Dephh is honestly overrated xset looked lost af on attack which is where he was supposed to call the only way they won rounds was if cryo zekken or bcj popped off
They were owning on defence where ayrin called and bro barely gets credit while the br*tish bot is the "2nd best igl in na"

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SaltyMcNulty
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Mttn [#33]

Dephh is honestly overrated xset looked lost af on attack which is where he was supposed to call the only way they won rounds was if cryo zekken or bcj popped off
They were owning on defence where ayrin called and bro barely gets credit while the br*tish bot is the "2nd best igl in na"

We don't know the inner workings of their team. Just cz Ayrin was a second caller on def doesn't mean he called everything and responsible for success. Teams generally prepare heavy for Defense and it's more secure way to win rounds. FPX, OpTic are defense heavy teams as well. In most scenarios it's easier to defend than the other way around, specially on Chamber meta.

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