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Why NA deserves 6 spots
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Subreezy [#2]We also have hamburgers, freedom, guns, and maple syrup, we deserve 8 slots at least
MUUURIICAAAA FUCK YEAH 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
GIVE US 20 SLOTS (+5 EVERY YEAR!!!!!!!!)
divisionbell [#9]Then go to streaming or cinema platforms
This is e-sport, we want strong teams
This is a business riot wants money.
divisionbell [#9]Then go to streaming or cinema platforms
This is e-sport, we want strong teams
like Furia and NiP? 💀💀💀
divisionbell [#9]Then go to streaming or cinema platforms
This is e-sport, we want strong teams
hmm Optic would be considered a strong team dont you think?
sheahhhh [#16]Br has nothing else going for them 🤣🤣
I mean winning but thats near the end of the list when riot looks at partnership with orgs
h9zard [#7]Brazil = LOUD and WHOMEGALULS
but, in brazil we played in team and usa ? only play with yay 🤣
RPzin [#19]but, in brazil we played in team and usa ? only play with yay 🤣
still just LOUD and WHOMEGALULs
h9zard [#17]hmm Optic would be considered a strong team dont you think?
Yeah, but your region wants 7 or 8 spots. 5 is the best
divisionbell [#21]Yeah, but your region wants 7 or 8 spots. 5 is the best
my point is "strong teams" isnt what Riot cares abt. even Optic the best team of the year probably wont make it. they give zero fucks abt "strong teams"
h9zard [#23]my point is "strong teams" isnt what Riot cares abt. even Optic the best team of the year probably wont make it. they give zero fucks abt "strong teams"
But it is very likely that some of the teams already have negotiations with this optic line. About ORGS, I assure you that FURIA and LOUD are one of the biggest in the world. We still have NIP, Gamelanders, MIBR.
And probably NIP won't make it, according to the news
Gamelanders has as much financial power as a possible sixth NA org
divisionbell [#24]But it is very likely that some of the teams already have negotiations with this optic line. About ORGS, I assure you that FURIA and LOUD are one of the biggest in the world. We still have NIP, Gamelanders, MIBR.
And probably NIP won't make it, according to the news
Gamelanders has as much financial power as a possible sixth NA org
ok just dont talk about "strong teams" shit then. thats all.
SaltyMcNulty [#22]Admit it or not, NA orgs are the most reliable options for RIOT so I would be surprised if NA doesn't get 6 spots then one of the NA orgs can go pick up a SA roster or a mixed roster. That would be the best outcome for viewership and competition.
I second this
h9zard [#26]ok just dont talk about "strong teams" shit then. thats all.
It's actually an equation between the financial and the project (staff, players)
If I am a billionaire and say that my team will be 5 bronze, I will not be accepted. So yes, in-game is important in the decision.
divisionbell [#28]It's actually an equation between the financial and the project (staff, players)
If I am a billionaire and say that my team will be 5 bronze, I will not be accepted. So yes, in-game is important in the decision.
but if you are a trillionaire and gets 1mil views every game you can get away with 5 bronzes
minte [#8]MUUURIICAAAA FUCK YEAH 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
GIVE US 20 SLOTS (+5 EVERY YEAR!!!!!!!!)
this guy gets it
pt-br
Bom no NA só um time se destacou neste ano que foi a OPTIC. E na Champions o "NA" teve 3 times (OPTIC, XSET e 100T) enquanto na região BR teve apenas a LOUD (sem contar com o LATAM). 100T não passou da fase de grupos. XSET foi eliminada na Lower Round e a OPTIC foi eliminada pela LOUD. De acordo com o ano sim a OPTIC conseguiu melhores colocações em campeonatos, mas a loud foi superior no champions conseguiu a sua revanche contra a optic e só perdeu contra a kru. Eu não acho que o NA merece 6 vagas mas apenas 3, 3, 3 para ser mais justo. Pois o LATAM é muito forte (KRU, LEVIATAM + outro),
BRASIL (LOUD, FURIA, MIBR OU NIP) E NA (OPTIC, THE GUARD, SENTILES).
Rec [#34]pt-br
Bom no NA só um time se destacou neste ano que foi a OPTIC. E na Champions o "NA" teve 3 times (OPTIC, XSET e 100T) enquanto na região BR teve apenas a LOUD (sem contar com o LATAM). 100T não passou da fase de grupos. XSET foi eliminada na Lower Round e a OPTIC foi eliminada pela LOUD. De acordo com o ano sim a OPTIC conseguiu melhores colocações em campeonatos, mas a loud foi superior no champions conseguiu a sua revanche contra a optic e só perdeu contra a kru. Eu não acho que o NA merece 6 vagas mas apenas 3, 3, 3 para ser mais justo. Pois o LATAM é muito forte (KRU, LEVIATAM + outro),
BRASIL (LOUD, FURIA, MIBR OU NIP) E NA (OPTIC, THE GUARD, SENTILES).
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Well in NA, only one team stood out this year and that was OPTIC. And in Champions the "NA" had 3 teams (OPTIC, XSET and 100T) while in the BR region there was only LOUD (not counting the LATAM). 100T didn't make it past the group stage. XSET was dropped in the Lower Round and OPTIC was dropped by LOUD. According to the year yes, OPTIC got better places in championships, but loud was superior in champions got their rematch against optic and only lost against kru. I don't think NA deserves 6 spots but only 3, 3, 3 to be fair. For the LATAM is very strong (KRU, LEVIATAM + another),
BRASIL (LOUD, FURIA, MIBR OR NIP) AND NA (OPTIC, THE GUARD, SENTILES**).
h9zard [#20]still just LOUD and WHOMEGALULs
I saw a Brazilian before say “wait till FURIA fuck all of NA teams” I think he’s forgotten FURIA has yet to beat a single NA team…
Icysoda57 [#10]Doesn’t matter when Riot looks at financials, content, and views.
I mean look at Acend, they’re the previous Champions 2021 winners and I don’t think they’ll be accepted into franchising. Riot doesn’t care how many times you’ve attended their events or even if you have attended their events. It’s all based on if your org is worth putting into their ecosystem.
h9zard [#30]but if you are a trillionaire and gets 1mil views every game you can get away with 5 bronzes
You are totally fantasizing. Yes, riot is thinking about investing, after all, this is a franchise. But it's not so literal, to the point of only importing the money and whatever the team. Obviously in this situation that you assumed, they would not be accepted.
divisionbell [#38]You are totally fantasizing. Yes, riot is thinking about investing, after all, this is a franchise. But it's not so literal, to the point of only importing the money and whatever the team. Obviously in this situation that you assumed, they would not be accepted.
Obviously the situation you said "5 bronze" would never happen either. And I wasnt literal when I said "they dont care abt teams being strong". Not to the point where they accept bronze players. I just exaggerated to prove ur point wrong just like you did.
h9zard [#39]Obviously the situation you said "5 bronze" would never happen either. And I wasnt literal when I said "they dont care abt teams being strong". Not to the point where they accept bronze players. I just exaggerated to prove ur point wrong just like you did.
So... we're saying pretty much the same thing. It's a mix between investment and team, some teams may be withdrawn in the future if they don't perform well (RIOT said that). I don't understand why so many complaints about "strong teams", after all, it's important to have a strong team in the franchise or will be kicked in the future.
Thinking only about cheering or visualization doesn't guarantee you a spot. And that's what the topic is about.
divisionbell [#40]So... we're saying pretty much the same thing. It's a mix between investment and team, some teams may be withdrawn in the future if they don't perform well (RIOT said that). I don't understand why so many complaints about "strong teams", after all, it's important to have a strong team in the franchise or will be kicked in the future.
Thinking only about cheering or visualization doesn't guarantee you a spot. And that's what the topic is about.
The teams riot selects will be in for life like the LCS idk where you heard that they’ll be kicked
divisionbell [#40]So... we're saying pretty much the same thing. It's a mix between investment and team, some teams may be withdrawn in the future if they don't perform well (RIOT said that). I don't understand why so many complaints about "strong teams", after all, it's important to have a strong team in the franchise or will be kicked in the future.
Thinking only about cheering or visualization doesn't guarantee you a spot. And that's what the topic is about.
no. its not necessary to have a good team to GET INTO franchising which is all this talk is about. its only important to have a good team to STAY in franchising and once ur in franchising ur pretty much gonna have a good team cause of the amount of resources and talent available to choose from. there is a difference.
h9zard [#42]no. its not necessary to have a good team to GET INTO franchising which is all this talk is about. its only important to have a good team to STAY in franchising and once ur in franchising ur pretty much gonna have a good team cause of the amount of resources and talent available to choose from. there is a difference.
Well, we agree to disagree. You are misunderstanding the context of a strong team. I'm not saying they have to be projects with exceptional players, but promising players. If OCEANIA had numerous ORGS, they would probably not all be accepted, as the region is still weak and doesn't have so many quality players. This is the point. Or maybe they would even be accepted, but with proposals to take over SEA, KR or JP teams. Anyway, this discussion has no future.
divisionbell [#43]Well, we agree to disagree. You are misunderstanding the context of a strong team. I'm not saying they have to be projects with exceptional players, but promising players. If OCEANIA had numerous ORGS, they would probably not all be accepted, as the region is still weak and doesn't have so many quality players. This is the point. Or maybe they would even be accepted, but with proposals to take over SEA, KR or JP teams. Anyway, this discussion has no future.
bro my whole point is the team strength isnt the big priority for them for franchising. ie they arent looking at the 5 best teams in the region and directly offering them spots, which is enough to dispute ur entire argument. Surely you dont think NA top 7-8 NA teams are bad enough to be rejected.
xiphon [#45]whole point is to change that let others thrive.
no that's not the point of franchising
riot wants money and to kill esports
h9zard [#46]bro my whole point is the team strength isnt the big priority for them for franchising. ie they arent looking at the 5 best teams in the region and directly offering them spots, which is enough to dispute ur entire argument. Surely you dont think NA top 7-8 NA teams are bad enough to be rejected.
Now you changed your speech, back there you said they didn't give a damn about the quality of the team. Now you said that it's not a big priority, I can even agree on that, because it's an equation between investment and team, and in fact investment speaks louder. You need to review what was said back there, as it gave the impression that the importance of the team was 0.
divisionbell [#49]Now you changed your speech, back there you said they didn't give a damn about the quality of the team. Now you said that it's not a big priority, I can even agree on that, because it's an equation between investment and team, and in fact investment speaks louder. You need to review what was said back there, as it gave the impression that the importance of the team was 0.
they arent looking at the 5 best teams in the region and directly offering them spots, which is enough to dispute ur entire argument.
no I still stand by it. But even if Im wrong and riot does consider "team strength" the fact that they dont just go for the 5 best teams in the region is enough to dispute everything u said. like if SEN get in franchising they are going in with 3 players on the roster. I dont think that makes a "strong team".
your whole argument now stands on the fact that I said "they dont give a shit" and you can use that against me in the literal context and say things like "they wouldnt allow 5 bronzes even if they got a lot of money", when we both know I didnt mean it that literally.
h9zard [#50]they arent looking at the 5 best teams in the region and directly offering them spots, which is enough to dispute ur entire argument.
no I still stand by it. But even if Im wrong and riot does consider "team strength" the fact that they dont just go for the 5 best teams in the region is enough to dispute everything u said. like if SEN get in franchising they are going in with 3 players on the roster. I dont think that makes a "strong team".
your whole argument now stands on the fact that I said "they dont give a shit" and you can use that against me in the literal context and say things like "they wouldnt allow 5 bronzes even if they got a lot of money", when we both know I didnt mean it that literally.
You're taking it too seriously, man, relax.
Now that you've confirmed that you didn't mean it literally, there's no reason to argue, we agree that they look at investment and team. In the first posts, you hinted that you actually thought the team had a non-existent relevance.
About NA, the fact is that they didn't perform well in masters 1 and 2 with 2 teams, so having 8 teams seems sad to me. The time factor is important for riot, so much so that they already want to know the lineup in October. Anyway, our discussion no longer makes sense, we agree on almost everything.
Brazil with 3 teams also needs to prove itself, at the moment we only have loud with a high level. Furia and nip made campaigns 'ok'
pebu [#48]no that's not the point of franchising
riot wants money and to kill esports
True It all sucks at the end of it CS has best format no cappa
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