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DRX Detrimental problem up until now

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#1
HaSanity

how is their map pool looking?

one thing I have noticed is, every time they lose a match on international lan, they lose 2:1, never 2:0. and the last map is mostly never close.

  1. Berlin: vs Gambit 2-13, 13-7, 8-13
  2. Champs: vs Fnatic 10-13, 13-10, 6-13
  3. Champs: vs Cloud9 10-13, 13-9, 11-13 <- (won both pistols on breeze)
  4. Iceland: vs Optic 13-8, 11-13, 13-15(split) <-(5/6 of Optic's Split maps have been close/losses or ((13-11)+OT) including vs DRX)
  5. Iceland: vs Zeta 11-13, 13-10, 4-13(split again)

the conclusion i have come up with is that their map pool has been weak, (so far on international stage) and its mostly blowout losses exactly on the third map, the exception being VS Optic last stage even though Split was a weak map for Optic. So they basically need to strengthen their map pool for this LAN to have a chance at the trophy.

I ask again, do you think DRX has fixed their map pool, on most maps? (even tho they haven't dropped a map after Iceland) because if so, DRX can go ahead and win it all.

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DRX is a really confusing team u know....till the last tournament...I have heard so many times about how good they are and that they one of the strongest team in the world and every tournament they have been in they start good but once they loose a game...they just loose the whole thing and I have never seen them make a comeback run....VS/DRX seems to ride on momentum but they play like buffoons as soon as they lose the momentum

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meyournightmare
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DRX has the potential to win it all but they keep beating themselves

#4
jimjam789
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not map pool, mental gap. take vs zeta for example. split is generally one of drxs strongest maps yet they lost horribly. I can almost assure you that if they started off with split, the result if that map would be different. id go as far as to say drx has no clear weak maps atm

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HaSanity
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hmm. i seem to have missed the mark on this one if u believe that😅

#27
archetype
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its mental 100%, drx are good on a lot of maps, they also sandbag and save strats a lot which leads to them playing the same map a lot. this leads to teams figuring them out in the tourney (icebox at masters iceland)

#13
seankukuz
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cope?

#17
wkeyspectre
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bro all you do on your account is hate on drx, get a life bro

#20
seankukuz
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True

#18
heiskaneN
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Naw if they started off with split DRX most likely still would've lost. Putting buzz on Astra and Rb on Jett was the major reason they lost Split. Buzz didn't look comfortable on Astra and they struggled taking space/map control with no raze and Rb on Jett.

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misaquartz
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agree, maybe if they put buzz on chamber and rb on raze the result would be different

#22
jimjam789
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all stage long he was fine, sure not up to his senti and duellist standards but him and everyone was fine. even vs optic the team still looked good on thw map despite losing. that map was pure mental diff

#29
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you could hear the player comms when it went to OT on split. everyone was mental boomed. especially buzz

#5
thatpower
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their comps are a lot better but i don’t think map pool is the problem. it’s their mental.

#7
Rebellion2408
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Umm I think their map pool improved decently. I wouldn't say significanty cause in 2021 their Ascent was very bad now it's really good. Their Haven was always really good cause that's their playground. Bind is still meh although they defeated PRX there just because they are their kryptonite. Split was always a 50-50 map for them. They play Icebox really well and their last 2 losses in Icebox were 13-11 losses.

I think DRX's weak maps should be Fracture and Bind. They have definitely improved their map pools albeit slightly. I think their main problem is their mental. They lose some rounds in a row and if it's close, their mental blows out and they will not be able to comeback. And yes as you said they always lose 2-1. Zeta too had less map pools but what they did better than DRX is they maintained their mental they played like they had nothing to lose which is why they made it 3rd in Iceland. DRX choke DRX's mental must improve because DRX are awesome when it comes to set plays and strats etc. But their mental is the one which just blasts and they fail to adapt to anything new that other teams bring at them ( Ex: Optic in Icebox vs DRX when they kept going mid for 4 straight rounds and DRX failing to adapt ).

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disagree, split and bind are the only maps i believe they are not good bcs
1) split was one of their strongest map back on their 100W streak, after their first loss to f4q on that map, they started to permaban split until vct kr 2021 (before berlin)
2) for bind, idk they just seems like hate that map

i believe it's not abt map but their mental. drx has strong map pool (though we haven't seen much them playing on fracture internationally, except that loss from fnatic)

#10
Rebellion2408
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They played Fracture once at Champs against Fnatic where they lost 6-13

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misaquartz
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i forgot, i edited it

#30
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they also didnt play a single fracture game after until GF vct stage 1 where they looked really good against ONS.

#47
Rebellion2408
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They are playing no breach in Fracture right? I think that's pretty strong considering Zest's Fade is really good and Stax on any flash initiator is really good

#9
Shashwat_Singh
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I feel like they are not used to losing so whenever they lose a series their mental takes a hit

#12
misaquartz
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this could be the reason

#15
HaSanity
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also i think they shouldnt blacklist korean teams in scrims. by stunting their own teams - they stunt their own growth since their opponents cant anti strat or know their opponent well enough + they only play korean teams in official games. the harder your opponent gets, the more you learn to grow.

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misaquartz
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yeah me too actually didn't like the fact that they dont scream kr teams

#23
Shashwat_Singh
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I mean isn’t that how it works teams avoid to scrim with other teams from their own region (in asia)

#24
misaquartz
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idk, but i feel like scrim help other teams to improve esp for minor region like korea

#21
TmhariMummy
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I maybe wrong about this...but I remember reading that VS couldn't be at Masters 2 2021 was because the teams in KR learned to play against them as they were the most dominant team and the teams were literally training to handle VS and only VS and so Nuturn was able to beat them. Now that they don't scrim with other teams....they don't know their playstyle to anti strat them and they have qualified from KR for every LAN since

#26
HaSanity
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If true, this is very acceptable since they only have 1 slot in korea

#14
number1_100T_fan
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their mental is their weakpoint

#25
luckypleb
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People keep saying that their problem is that their mental is weak. What a bullshit, they are just simply not as good as the fans think.

#35
Kk0bra
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bruh we have seen them come close several times , and on top of that Rb in particular just does not show up on the international stage but in kr he is top 2 next to mako and maybe buzz(like rly the things i have seen him do in KR just blow my mind) . they are really mentally weak , its fax

#28
weferf
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they just not good and definitely not worth discussing on why they are not at the top

#31
archetype
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calm down the majority of your recent posts are trashtalking the kr scene and you're lowkey racist about it too lmao

https://www.vlr.gg/post/999874/korean-pro-val-scene

Koreans are not smart like Japanese

#32
vyltx
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ever since masters berlin last year, drx had potential to win but always had a hard time mental wise.
I feel like when they start trailing map 2 they start to lose focus and just fumble the bag from there.

#33
nutab1e
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people are still managing to overhype them again this year it's crazy

#34
archetype
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nobody is overhyping them. my personal hopes are them just making it out of groups. people acknowledge the potential but mostly acknowledge their repeated failure to live up to it. it's disappointment more than anything :/

#36
nutab1e
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I've seen people put them in their top 4

#37
CrimsonPride
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why won't they? are u incapable to think properly? are u retard?

#41
nutab1e
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heres the overrater! :)

#48
CrimsonPride
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heres the dumbass

#49
zardinez
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Optic, Loud, Fnatic, and PRX are easily the top 4 best going into this tournament

#51
CrimsonPride
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prx? u mean the team that never defeated DRX? and always lost badly? the team that steals strats from drx? like how in the fk are prx more favorite than drx?

#45
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where lol almost everyone has them as top 5 or lower

#46
SeulgiVLR
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no one who watches kr scene knows to not have hype for drx we just hope they make it out of groups at the very least after champs

always everyone else thats not apac/kr who wants to overhype drx until the very end

#38
CrimsonPride
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mental problem

#40
Ullyr
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DRX actually the team that chokes the most internationally i feel like they always start off so hot, then progressively gets worse.

#42
weferf
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I don't understand, why a mid team, who always finish in the middle, gets so much attention and analysis, while teams like Zeta and PRX gets so little talk. The early impressions of DRX created a false image in people's mind that DRX is some team that has legendary potential. But they proved 3 times, yes 3, that they are no where near what people think they has potential to be. After the first time, yes I still give them the respect and hope, but after 3? GTFO

#43
misaquartz
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are u new here? ppl talked about prx potential all the time. only one thread abt drx for couple weeks and all of this hater starting to popping vein.

#44
HaSanity
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Calm down bruv I took 15 mins to prepare this thread, it’s not the end of the world

#50
APAC_jimmy
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Good analysis bro 👍 very interesting

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