0

Liquid/Dreamas

Comments:
Threaded Linear
#1
iSlasher

So far, Dreamas has been drastically underperforming compared to his supportive teammates. Soulcas has the occasional popoff game, and Nivera/Jamppi both regularly do numbers, but Dreamas has averaged less than 150 ACS. What kind of role changes are needed here? It seems like he's just in Breach jail and isn't really good at Breach. Most people will probably think "Oh, he's just setting Scream up for success", but he also has low assist numbers, which is even worse than low ACS for someone whose entire job is to assist the entry frag.

TL;DR: Dreamas is underperforming, how can Liquid make up for or fix it without roster moves?

#2
Flamephoenix
6
Frags
+

replaced one of the best supports in EMEA for some random that can barely get over 100 acs and weighs down his team like an anchor. classic lulquid.

#20
bonkashi
8
Frags
+

l1nk 100% benched himself. he was having bad games but there's no way the org opted to kick him for someone they've never pracced with in the middle of groups. they're probably on the look for and igl rn to fill the spot after playoffs end.

#23
yungbasel
1
Frags
+

He even said on stream he benched himself

#3
valvenq
3
Frags
+

With this logic dazzle from LG is underperforming.

Dreamas is pretty good, I'd say wait until Liquid is completely out before making any changes. And if anything, I don't know who to replace with.

#11
Psychological_You17262
0
Frags
+

Dazzle is igl no?

#27
kapteN
1
Frags
+

I think he is

#4
delusionalindonesianfan
1
Frags
+

Can Liquid pick up VRL players or are they locked to only FA's atm ?

#5
SilentNight
0
Frags
+

Dreamas is originally a sentinel main, and L1NK is the one that benched/stepped down to this shitty team because they don't have any proper igl. Idk they're still building chemistry

#6
SilentCypher
2
Frags
+

I'm pretty sure the scenario has been like this :
Jamppi confirmed in a stream L1NK wanted to bench himself. Not his fault, Liquid has been going without set roles and IGL for way too long now and his talent was only gonna be wasted here.
It wasn't something planned, and thus when the request came it was sudden and they tried finding whoever is available.
As of now dreamas is most likely a temporary change, they most likely will pick up a proper IGL

#10
Ibis
-5
Frags
+

What talent does l1nk have?

#12
Psychological_You17262
4
Frags
+

Judge hookah/backsite b ascent

#13
number1_ScreaM_fan
-4
Frags
+

more than fokus ever have

#28
kapteN
0
Frags
+

They confirmed dreamas for “remainder of vct”

So most likely a temporary pickup they could use/trial for the short term

#7
FlyDoggoWoweeClap
-1
Frags
+

Liquid should sign me NO CAP atleast i know how to trade my team :D

#8
SilentCypher
1
Frags
+

Now if G2 does get the franchising NA and drops their entire roster, picking up Nukkye is a no brainer for Liquid.
An impact Fragger IGL with insane fire power

#18
no_noise_979
1
Frags
+

nukkye said on stream that he doesnt want to IGL anymore

#9
number1_ScreaM_fan
0
Frags
+

he was like a quick replacement for l1nk

#14
Valgod
3
Frags
+

You see how jamppi played yesterday but then decide to blame dreamas

#32
UnrivaleD
0
Frags
+

true , even sliggy is his watchparty said he do brainless stuff and when he left there is no one to put the leach on him

#15
idkbro
0
Frags
+

he hasnt been underperforming, he is just a decent player, not bad not spectacular, he has been performing exactly how you expect him to perform

#16
no_noise_979
7
Frags
+

Dreamas not underperforming, that is just his average. It's why he got kicked from OG LDNU.

The guy is and always was a mid player. They only got him cuz he was a free agent and they quickly needed someone after L1Nk benched himself mid-season.

They are 100% gonna get rid of Dreamas if they don't make copenhagen so they actually have time to trial players until LCQ and they will probably pay the buyout of a player in the VRL leagues. Reason they didnt do it now is because they had no time to choose and trial players. Thats why they chose Dreamas he was a free agent. He is only meant to be a temporary member.

#19
HaSanity
0
Frags
+

^^^What he said^^^

#17
Olofboost
1
Frags
+

Let's go, people trashing Dreamas for bad stats but defending d3ffo because he's a "space creator"

#21
HaSanity
0
Frags
+

No let’s trash on both of them. Entrying is the most important role in the team, some teams have different systems where everyone goes for entries or, teams like Fnatic have dedicated 1 or 2 to entry but imo m3c would really benefit from an upgrade. Obvious choice imo, everyone who disagrees is deluded.

#22
xD1LL4N
-2
Frags
+

You're the deluded one brother. Fnatic are about to flop out of playsoff 0-2. watch and see

#25
HaSanity
0
Frags
+

I'm all for it bro. Let's see it.

#24
heavnsent
0
Frags
+

The man is playing Breach, lol. Have you ever played Breach in a scrim or tournament game? It's not a high ACS position. You are literally mr. robot hands supporting your teammates, and half your assists aren't even counted. Not sure what you guys are expecting.

#26
m8te
0
Frags
+

Why is everyone being so harsh towards dreamas? He was picked up to igl and turn things around but as soon as liquid lose a map everyone blames him and say they should bring back link even though that would again leave jammpi or scream to igl which if you watched the matches was turning into pug matches

#29
HaSanity
0
Frags
+

Read 16.Dreamas probably is performing above average according to his previous performances. I would say jamppi threw some crucial rounds for liquid yesterday on haven which may have been the decider.

#30
firo
0
Frags
+

“leave jamppi or scream to igl?” who actually is the current igl in liquid? is it not scream? i dont think dreamas was picked up to igl.

#33
m8te
0
Frags
+

They said the only reason to drop link was to help with their igl problem but

#31
UnrivaleD
0
Frags
+

ppl dont realise he is just a sub right? ; according to them , he was the best tier1 player they couldve had at the time , while they will look for a top tier igl , imo having him is better than getting just an insane fragger while having no structure and evantually choking in big stages , good changes needs time

  • Preview
  • Edit
› check that that your post follows the forum rules and guidelines or get formatting help
Sign up or log in to post a comment