Liquid losing to a Turkish team is like trump at a women's march

Lies

It's not just about player base.

And where are you guys getting player base stats from anyway? Because riot sure doesn't publish those numbers. 3x Larger population does NOT equal 3x larger player base. Lots of other factors affect this.

Because the crowd want to see players IRL.

Sure, there are some people willing to pay to look at eSports on cinema screen, but enough to justify the cost of a big venue? Probably not

Get off vlr

Get over it.

Liquid
Northeption
Bleed
KRU
VK
EG

I'll probably only 2 of these through though

Not just spray pattern. Movement physics and models too.

Small indie company.
Last year's lcq LAN was a shit show. Fraud online "Lan" servers plus COVID.

EMEA

Literally feel like it could be any of the 8 teams participating

Hmmm, no judgement. Let's just let wait and see

Same guy who said Optic looked weak going into Reykjavik and they won the tournament. While his team was...oh...nevermind. bit of a clown this guy is.

Putting the L in Liberal

It's not a magic pill by any means.

If they scrim in EMEA more, they won't just magically become better. It's not like NA and EMEA Valorant styles are all that different. Optic seem to be hexed Vs European teams, but don't forget that sentinels and 100t have wins against a couple of EU teams.

Overall player quality and mental state under pressure matters boat load. You can't just fix these by playing in a "better" region.

DRX had their worst showing at an international tournament after a longer than usual bootcamp for champs.

L map

We are all tribal and prideful, irrational yes, but it is what it is

How to keep it alive?

Reset everyone's expectations about what tier 2 eSports really is.

Part-time jobs at best. because if orgs can't make money or get any palpable and meaningful brand exposure from having a mid tier team, they have exactly zero reason to invest in it.

Prize money from the very masters is barely even worth it for mid size / large orgs.

Hello

That would make sense if that's the case here.

Ty

Big respect and epic bounce back

C-c-c-cope harder bozo.

You're a disgrace to your region

GG to both teams, fucking insane finals.

Fpx let's goooo!

Your name goes too hard

Just clowns period*. The flag doesn't matter. Clown is clown

GG to Optic. Better team won today, but they still had a hell of a tournament run. And they have an international title, which is more than most others can and will ever have.

Gratz to my EMEA gang though. Fpx were insane

1. We don't know if they will or won't yet.
2. NA orgs invest a shit load more when compared to orgs from other regions. So it's less sustainable for them.

These are the reasons why we haven't seen lots of orgs from APAC / EMEA leave valo yet.

SUYGETSU hopped off the plane late just to send FNC back on one early

Rare W by you sir.

OP is just asking to get clowned in the Optic win. dumbass

Team Liquid.

A man can dream.

Yeah man, you could be right. Time will tell!

Ya, just saw a few mins ago. That sucks

Franchising while good in someways is basically just capitalism on show in gaming.

Good for the few, shit for the masses.

Maybe it will lead to more entertaining formats for viewers and fans though, maybe not with the possible lack of Cinderella stories. Who knows at this point. Not looking great though.

Speedrun death of a scene challenge: difficulty easy

Nah, optic deserve all the praise. I say this as a slight NA hater.

The team has a winning mentality. One of the few groups that can bounce back and not go into a downward spiral after a loss.

NYFU? when was that announced? damn

factsssss

I'll tell you all now. This is bullshit.

There isn't a new version of CS coming anytime soon. What's happening is CSGO will be moved to Source 2 Engine. This is not a new game, it's 99% a backend change to move the game onto the most up to date source engine.

It won't look any different, it probably won't even feel different. It most certainly won't be packaged and released as a new game either.

In fact, CSGO will probably get slightly worse (in the short term) due to new bugs associated with being on a new engine while they need to fix things.

We are still many years away from a "new" counterstrike game. If you think the current game running on a cleaner / more up to date engine, is enough to cause an exodus from valorant, you are smoking heroin. It is NOT going to be a new game.

I love CSGO, but those guys are just talking out their asses.

You're right, and what that tells us is that it was anyone's game. Lev just came up slightly better.

It's hardly a game to draw many conclusions from.

We can only dream bruh. We can only dream.

And you make a good point.

Of the 3 international tournaments they played, liquid were knocked out of 2 by domestic rivals.

XD

LATAM elimination matches are GOATED

KRU vs SEN

KRU vs Fnatic

KRU vs Gambit

Leviatan vs Xset

Leviatan vs Fnatic

All bangers

FPX looked like they stepped into form VS DRX, while FNatic look like they're hanging on for dear life vs Leviatan. Very Shaky and Derke is not in form at the moment.

Relax, they really just needed the benefit of playing group stage games to warm up.

Not saying they didn't deserve their losses. But it's tough to come to a first LAN and perform right away in knockouts. Leviatán rose to the challenge better. Doesn't mean XSET are trash.

Yep, that's a true point. But, I'd still say G2 under performed compared to their seeding.

Bro, relax, everyone gets shitted on when they lose.

better game, better tournies.

There's literally no way this came from someone with an Xset flair haha xD.

I don't know how long it's gonna take some of you to realise this.

But valorant isn't the game where you're going to see a region dominate.

1 Team from a region winning 1 event doesn't = region dominating.
1 Event where a region does better than every other doesn't = region dominating if they can't repeat it.

The skill gap between players at the top is too small, and it comes down to which TEAMS show up on the day.

The closest thing we had to regional dominance was champs last year by EMEA. But even that doesn't count, because it wasn't repeatable. EMEA shit the bed at the very next event.

If Optic wins this event, it doesn't mean NA is the best region (especially when their last 2 #1 seeds go 0-2 in playoffs). It just means Optic is the best team in the world. Doesn't say shit about the region.

I think we're at the stage where Valorant is finally globally competitive.