braindead

nah even the g2 game aside, I feel like in most maps they lose it's usually because their original game plan was figured out and they never recover. imo the mark of a good igl is how well they can still perform in those situations

nah, he still hasn't redeemed himself from that 11-2 loss to G2

americass fans aren't gonna like this one

last few years have been rough but anyone who watches you can tell you have the mechanics of a top tier player, you're just lacking the right pieces around you. I hope you hold off on retiring for one more year at least

PS: uwukitten big fan 🥰

vitality is ass, I hope sayf manages to find a good team next year if he doesn't retire

join and make it three 😹 jokes aside this guy actually refuses to see reason, show me where I said something unreasonable myself 🗿

subpar performance? are you talking about sen who didn't even make regional playoffs? for reference, the only other team to not make regional playoffs following their win is acend kkkkkkkkk

where was sen in shanghai? oh yeah they were warming their couch at home

yeah it's pretty clear that you just judge teams based on how big the names of the players in them are 😹EG players were all considered mediocre coming into 2023 and they won champs, I'm 100% sure you didn't consider them "high potential", for you "potential" is just a measure of how renowned the players on the team are. I've had enough arguing with a person who clearly doesn't watch any games asides from sen, let's see where you disappear to after Sen gets beaten by one of these teams with "low potential" kkkkkkkkk

"subjective way of defending a shit team" 😭😭😭

the so called weaker teams of shanghai who aren't doing good in their leagues:
EDG, FPX, DRG and 100T. that's 33% of the teams at shanghai

the teams at madrid who didn't do good in their league in split 1:
sen, loud, KC. that's 37.5% while ignoring the chinese teams which according to you "can barely keep up with the rest of the competition" if we add those that's 5/8 of the teams or 62.5%. which tournament seems more fraudulent to you now? which one's teams did worse regionally afterwards? you say I argue subjectively then go on to say "the NA teams that qualified are decent at best, you can look at their progress in their regional league" so called NA teams that are doing badly in their league is 100T and that's it, G2 haven't lost a game.

No team in Shanghai other than GenG and PRX were the favorites, and it's obvious because all of those teams are now barely doing decent

g2? lev? TH? fnatic? Fut? all those teams haven't lost a game but that's "barely decent" according to your, clearly, high IQ. your words don't even back up the actual data + a team that made shanghai is a "top team", just because your dumbass who's probably a casual viewer that only recognizes clouted teams doesn't know them doesn't mean that they're bad. heretics took an improved gen.g to the same number of maps as sen who was playing against a worse gen.g (with a sub too btw) kkkkkkkkkkkkk

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I don't hate anyone and I only spread love

you can say the same shit for literally any fan base, besides it's just jokes. bro had a few threads that made it big and he keeps trying to replicate the success with difference nonsense every other day 😭

sen defined valorant by being consistently overhyped for years 🔥🔥🔥

the racism is crazy, then again you're greek

changed his flair 😹shameless, really

holy shit, s0n refers to sentinels not s0m you retard 😭
"the competition in shanghai was by far the least entertaining" and? "the argument to watch that whole event was to "give other teams a chance""?????? find me literally one instance of someone saying that. what does "boring to watch" have to do with the quality of the teams?

"cute to know that you also don't defend TH as u know im right LUL"

what is this, then? ""got sonned by gen.g" = 3-2 score despite having both their best maps banned and playing with a sub" is this not "defense"? and before that I spoke about the quality of the teams but here since you're an idiot and need it spelled out more clearly:

your whole point is that TH beat "weak chinese and NA teams" which is simply not true since those were the best teams regionally, therefore making them not weak. heretics, a newly formed team with extremely young players, were top 8 internationally in the first event then top 2 in the second event (despite having a sub which they had to change their comps for).

genuinely speaking, no bait, no jokes, you're actually retarded. I usually say it in jest but it's clear based on what you say that you happen to be neuron deficient. apparently the teams in shanghai were bad cause they weren't entertaining. you didn't even realize I was talking about sen not s0m which was clear from the context. you are seriously one of the dumbest people I've ever interacted with on this website

yes? I agree with what you said about s0m and NRG, no idea how they're relevant to what I said but ok

"China and NA teams that clearly not even top contenders LUL"? what? the teams were the best regionally and made it there fair and square, are they not top contenders just because JAS39C thinks so? "got sonned by gen.g" = 3-2 score despite having both their best maps banned and playing with a sub

you brought up TH despite the argument not even being about them then you go on to make extremely retarded points 😹

I believe that writers/journalists should strive to be truthful, which is why I made that comment 😔I apologize if it offended anybody

I believe this is the best bait theassgamer can come up with using his two brain cells, I worry for his middle school grades with this intelligence

"weak NA teams" who were there because s0n is even worse than those teams. burn out this burn out that meanwhile gen.g went from 2nd in madrid to 1st in shanghai, while s0n went from 1st to uhh... 8th regionally? kkkkkkkkkkkk

what is this argument? are you saying if NRG and sen were to play tomorrow and NRG wins, that means s0m is better? bro takes recency bias to a whole other level, whoever wins the game = their players are better all across the board

"lose every single game this year" which is... two games? and it isn't even "every game" since they beat kru. are you actually stupid? 😭t0nz lost 3 games in split 1 against loud, EG and Lev. is he horrible?

"idk why this is a debate" because sen fans are delusional, I think it's pretty clear to anyone who's neutral that s0m clears him. s0m was top 6 in tokyo against far harder competition (and on a worse team), meanwhile t0nz was 10th in madrid against newly formed teams with a month of practice

and you guys link a game against a team with a month of practice, what's your point? kkkkkkkkk
also, "every game against sen" which is literally one game 😭

https://www.vlr.gg/183781/nrg-esports-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w2/?game=all&tab=performance
10-2 against your goat

I barely see other TH flairs, what is bro talking about

I'd like to apply for the writer job, now I went through the google form and it was a whole bunch of nonsense. I believe my 4046 posts speak for themselves and for my great ability to articulate myself and evoke emotion. I'm sure the other vlr users can vouch for my skills. I will give you a few hours to accept my offer 👍

flair

that's too good for him

bro really listed off season tournaments 😭classic case of retardation

it's actually amazing how stupid they are, like at least other annoying fanbases like navi/fnatic are mostly baiters but sen fans are mostly just idiots

h2h means literally nothing, tenz was 2/6 against xeppa kkkkkk

FNS has even more, is he the goat?

found the guy who jerks off to hentai

that's not a "masters" lmfao

average t0nz fan doesn't even know how many trophies he has

yeah most tenz fans are filthy weebs who dream of living tenz' life, I'll also guess that they jerk off to hentai on a daily basis like their goat

s0m is better in everything, even duelists. hope this helps 👍

wait so it isn't even based on map differential? these seem like last year's rules

the playoff qualification scenario for sen last year was like 10x more unlikely tbf

s0m's viper is good but I'm not sure if his info initiators will be good on a pro level, he plays them in ranked occasionally though

what is bro talking about

I think kru vs c9 might be the most "unlikely" one here, the other ones have a clear favorite while this seems like a 50-50
kru would have to lose 0-4 for NRG to qualify over them

yeah this is the most plausible, the map differential won't matter if NRG wins 2-0 vs c9 and 100T wins 2-0 against EG I think

reminder that G2 was top 3 in shanghai

there's also a scenario where C9 also loses to kru and EG loses one of theirs, then NRG would qualify

G2 never lost a 10-2 lead to EG

this doesn't seem like the cleanest way?

this is what some redditor had to say about it but I haven't fact checked it:

There are multiple scenarios for NRG to make playoffs but this seems like the most realistic

NRG beat C9

KRÜ beat C9

100T beat EG

LOUD lose to either LEV or 100T OR NRG has a better map diff than LOUD

Note for this scenario: EG would still make it over NRG if ALL of the following happen

The NRG-C9 game is 2-1

The 100T-EG game is 2-1

AND

EG 2-0 MIBR

Playoff teams would be:

LEV

SEN

G2

KRÜ

100T

NRG

this seems far more likely than yours