Really curious to how when mazino starts performing aspas starts making internationals LOL

NRG has been insanely underwhelming for years. They have basically a superteam every year since yay left and have not been able to win shit.

And noting placements, LOUD literally made AMER Kickoff GF without aspas and qualified to masters madrid without Aspas AND got a top 4 finish. The team was doing alright with a clear downgrade in qck for half the year, and only then started to fall off. Aspas leaving was clearly not the ONLY reason they fell off.

Good players shine when they have good teams and good mental, is this news?

Yeah yay was shit after OPTIC but he had no help on whatever shitty roster he was on, was fucked over by his orgs, and had major issues getting along with teammates across both BLEED and DSG.

Aspas has always been on good rosters, never gotten fucked over by his org, has never been dropped randomly after playing well, has never had to play in tier 2 after being the best in the world last year, and has never had DSG steel and DSG genghsta and BLEED crazyguy on his teams causing issues and slandering him during the lowest point in his career.

karon did not go pro in 2023, he played in the world cyber game qualifiers on an unsigned team
that is NOT THE SAME as GOING PRO

He basically did a 5 stack with friends for a literal bottom feeder tournament QUALIFIER

he is extremely underwhelming and I don't think he's getting better either
if you were to name a replaceable player on the roster it would have to be serial

LOUD was never gonna be the same with qck as the only roster change, in the same way the OPTIC core never performed after yay left and ardiis joined.
Demon1 was never a good substitute for aspas, their playstyle and agent pool is completely different. And we surely aren't acting like aspas did it all himself when mazino was GF MVP for americas. Mazino was one of their best players and very vocal, and he also left. Whole LEV team was a joke this year and you act like Aspas leaving was the only thing that changed.

someone get akame on a winning team
my goat needs help

after choking that many finals I think they just got in their heads

yay was good before chamber

not even the igl atp
its the weird ass comp cooks they keep doing instead of meta abusing like normal teams

aspas was on a world champion roster in his rookie year
after he left LOUD he was on a LEV superteam built around him
MIBR literally let him choose his own teammates
nobody else gets his level of favorable treatment

yay after leaving OPTIC was immediately fucked over by C9 for reasons we have yet to uncover
he had to grind through T2 afterwards with shitty teammates and a broke content creator org
he got signed by a BLEED team that was dogshit with or without yay and had internal team drama
all this after being the best player in the world for a year and anyone would crumble like he did

yeah it really isn't even close

I mean the fact they they acted all buddy buddy before she got exposed and now suddenly decide to out all their issues with flor speaks volumes about them. If you have a problem with someone's behavior you don't wait till they are being called out for other issues to suddenly start treating their past behavior as an issue. If flor's behavior was truely that problematic to them, they could have outed it before she was accused of grape.

ardiis is literally not even that bad

rob moore paid off riot and xlg to get 3 chinese teams

PRX PATITEK

wait literally how

shanks fns sliggy turn off stream take off the jerseys

THIS IS AVTUALLY A GENERATIONAL COMEBACK

you play like g2 and sit in spawn for 30 seconds on attack and play retake only on defense
if you fall for the aggression you just lose

Penny will carry TL

He is actually tilted

davai has been the worst player on the roster for a while now
honestly if PRX are up to make a change its time to drop him

yeah idk why nobody is clearing ramp
this is professional play, you can't just be skipping angles

having none of the GENG players is insane

hyunmin + xeus

looks like he beats his kids after coming back from his job at the dupont chemical factory blackout drunk

she jinggg on my davai till i nats

i would also cum hard for david

-lysoar +siufatbb clone for maximum aura farming

Calling neon meta worse than tejo meta is outright stupid
We at least got to see some cool slide one tap kills and crazy movement
Tejo is legit ipad gameplay with zero skill expression

Neon was frustrating to play vs in that state but watching it was for sure more fun than tejo ipad simulator

chamber and neon meta was lowkey fun to watch tho

both and also a bit of recency bias

fresh account just to ragebait aspas fans
you guys can't keep getting away with it

brazilians in shambles getting carried by a gringo

chill out he was fighting the worst rated player at the tournament

aspas actually having his first ever stinker tournament

the goat is washed

solo hsk

people have crazy recency bias
gov was an ok initiator and duelist player at worst before this year and even then his recent performance is somewhat excusable with his persistent hand injury

sentinels barely beat 2 bottom feeder chinese teams and you think they can win toronto???

wtf does this mean😭😭😭

TH already cursed for grand finals

"your team" like bro isn't repping the same flair

10 times more dead maybe

I have TH and PRX making it
I don't think TL were a top 8 team in the world before toronto with Nats in so why would that change?
BLG clearly have some big game anxiety issues with the amount of outright trolling they were doing vs SEN
WOL are going nowhere with lys0ar on the roster.
MIBR look unconfident as fuck and lack any real experience, so I expect them to crumble under pressure.

G2 were not favorites for champs bro, they were expected to have a decent finish at least but almost nobody expected them to win it all.

I'm not saying G2 will become a bottom feeder team without tejo, my exact wording was "not nearly as dominant as they were before" and I think you are reading too much into it.

Tejo fit G2's methodical and coordinated playstyle extremely well. G2 will look worse with tejo without a doubt. They abused that shit on every single map and you are delusional if you think otherwise.

rrq spammed tejo breach to setup jemkin on yoru
I think like G2 they will be ok after the tejo nerfs but not nearly as dominant as they were before

agree

PRX came back from losing to DFM
losing to an actually good team in GENG won't be more crushing than that

rt

Autumn couldn't do anything worthwhile with a roster until he got a literal korean superteam despite having the clout of the T1 org and all their money behind him. And even then their wins have been scrappy and off the backs of their strong individual plays rather than good coaching prep.

Truly good coaching is something like what Potter or Termi do with their rosters. Potter has turned absolutely terrible rosters into dark horses and Termi manages to find and develop talent like nobody else.

Autumn was spoonfed experienced korean veterans buzz and stax and insane t2 prospects like iZu in addition to one of the best players from last year in meteor and barely managed to scrape his way to the easiest international trophy while outright refusing to use the most broken agent in the game. Meteor has said that he had to verbally ask autumn to just tell them what site they should hit in a timeout because he was spouting some shit like "win your gunfights, be confident." This guy is a massive fucking fraud of a coach.