GAMBIT > EG in 2021: GAMBIT 1st Masters 1 2021 CIS, 1st Masters 3 Berlin 2021, 2nd Champions 2021
M3C > EG in 2022
EG Tokyo 2nd and 1st Champions 2023
EG shit in 2024

ACEND > EG in 2021: ACEND 1st Masters 1 2021 EU, 5th-8th Masters 3 Berlin 2021, 1st Champions 2021
ACEND > EG in 2022
EG Tokyo 2nd and 1st Champions 2023
EG shit in 2024

literally the only thing EG has done is 2nd in Tokyo and 1st at Champions 2023 and in EVERY other stage of Valorant, they are irrelevant

it is? how is it not?

yeah but I actually also think they shouldnt be > DRX yet so I put them lower

but like TL (4th seed) got 7th-8th, G2 (3rd best team) got 5th-6th

FPX clears tf out of ZETA's fluke run and clears PRX playstyle (like they did in Copenhagen finals) (like surely 1st-3rd)

also FPX-EU 2021 >>>>>>> EG in 2021 + Ange1 was super good igl that a lot of people learned from at that time (2020-early 2021)
also NAVI 2024 >>>> EG 2024 (NAVI only fell off in Stage 2, but looked way better than EG in Kickoff and Stage 1)

Team Heretics won First Strike EU 2020, 2nd Masters 1 2021 EU, 7th-8th Madrid 2024, 2nd in Masters Shanghai 2024, Top 8 minimum Champs 2024

Gambit won 2 masters (Masters 1 2021 CIS)
Gambit also clears tf out of Demon1. you sir are a fish

FPX 2022-NAVI 2023: 1st-3rd, 1st, 4th, 3rd-4th, 11th-12th, 9th-12th (realistically 6th-7th and not 9th-12th at Champs 23 though)

GAMBIT > EG in 2021: GAMBIT 1st Masters 1 2021 CIS, 1st Masters 3 Berlin 2021, 2nd Champions 2021
M3C > EG in 2022
EG Tokyo 2nd and 1st Champions 2023
EG shit in 2024

ACEND > EG in 2021: ACEND 1st Masters 1 2021 EU, 5th-8th Masters 3 Berlin 2021, 1st Champions 2021
ACEND > EG in 2022
EG Tokyo 2nd and 1st Champions 2023
EG shit in 2024

Teams in Consideration:

all time top 10 change over events:

ALL TIME SUCCESS (2020-2025)

1. FNATIC - EMEA
2. LOUD - AMER
3. PAPER REX - PAC (⬆️+3)
4. ENVY(2020-21)/OPTIC(2022)/NRG(2023-25) - AMER (⬇️-1)
5. SENTINELS - AMER (⬇️-1)
6. FPX(EU 2020-22)/NATUS VINCERE(2023-25) - EMEA (⬇️-1)
7. GAMBIT - EMEA
8. GEN.G(KR) - PAC
9. EDWARD GAMING - CN
10. ACEND - EMEA

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11. EVIL GENIUSES - AMER
12. VS/DRX - PAC
13. TEAM LIQUID - EMEA
14. TEAM HERETICS - EMEA
15. KRÜ - AMER
16. G2(NA)/THE GUARD - AMER (⬆️+1)
17. T1(KR) - PAC (⬇️-1)
18. 100 THIEVES - AMER
19. AUSTRALS(2021)/LEVIATÁN(2022-25) - AMER
20. FUT - EMEA

-

21. G2(EU) - EMEA
22. X10/XERXIA/TALON - PAC
23. XSET - AMER
24. GUILD - EMEA
25. C9 - AMER
26. ZETA - PAC
27. TEAM VITALITY - EMEA
28. TEAM SECRET - PAC
29. NUTURN - PAC
30. WOLVES - CN

EDITS:

Feb-Apr 2025: 
- [T1] 25 -> 23
- [G2(NA)] 19 -> 16, [T1] 23 -> 16 + [G2(NA)] 16 -> 17 = [100T] from 16->18, [AUSTRALS/LEV] from 17->19, [FUT] from 18->20, [G2(EU)] from 20->21, [X10/XIA/TLN] from 21->22, [XSET] from 22->23
- [VS/DRX] 13 -> 12, [TEAM LIQUID] 14 -> 13, [TEAM HERETICS] 12 -> 14, [GEN.G] from 11 -> 10, [EVIL GENIUSES] from 10 -> 11
- [C9] 29 -> 25, [ZETA] 25 -> 26, [VITALITY] - -> 27, [FPX] 26 -> 28, [TEAM SECRET] 27 -> 29, [GIANTS GAMING/GIANTX] 28 -> 30, [NUTURN] 30 -> -, 
- [PAPER REX] 8 -> 7, [GAMBIT] 7 -> 8, [GEN.G] 10 -> 9, [ACEND] 9 -> 10

brother. SEN lost to fucking G2 0-2 (and G2 was a fucking shit team (EMEA 4th seed) in general))
SEN was not good after Reykjavik 2021 and KRU beating SEN in Champs 2021 was not an upset, sorry to break it to you.

Bro im actually dead. LEV Ceo did it to him too : https://x.com/FerMagoDiez/status/1822579479094727145

Morocco isnt partially asia bro. just cuz MENA is, doesnt mean Johnqt (Morocco) is "partially" Asia (which makes you saying "MENA is also partially asia" meaningless)

5 top 4s

ANGE1W

. but Ange1 isnt the problem. It is d00mbr0s being kicked. Remember how good everyone saw NAVI as before Stage 2.

LMFAOOO W

USA geography KEKW. Morocco isnt ASIA LMFAOOO

China wouldve won champs before PACIFIC KEKW

https://www.vlr.gg/348461/fut-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r3
-> https://www.vlr.gg/353185/leviat-n-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w2

no they werent. I watched both regions and some of the shit I saw in PACIFIC gotta get cancelled bro (Talon vs DRX game in group stage ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️)

you are a SEN fan. no shit you dont think they are bad. it is the dream bracket for SEN

wth did I just read

on the match page of the teams.

sadly, it doesnt show org based H2H. so if we wanted to see FNC vs NAVI/FPX(EU), it would only show FNC vs NAVI previous matches and you would have to check FNC vs FPX(EU) on your own

you cant have Trace and Lev on the same side of bracket

1. PACIFIC diffs EMEA in placements at Madrid
2. EMEA diffs PACIFIC in placement at Shanghai
3. EMEA will 99% chance to diff PACIFIC in placement at Champions 2024
4. PACIFIC Trophies: 1, EMEA Trophies: 0
5. PACIFIC 5-2 H2H EMEA in SERIES, PACIFIC 14-9 H2H EMEA in MAPS
6. However, PACIFIC has T1 GE BLEED DFM ZETA and the fact that EMEA Top 3/Top 4 is diffing PACIFIC Top 3/Top 4 in placements makes it kinda obvious EMEA > PACIFIC no (no EMEA team was terrible like PACIFIC bottom 5 this year)?

where did you find this?

ALL OTHER RANKINGS ARE BIASED/STUPID/NOT VALID

1. G2
2. SEN
3. DRX
4. FNC
5. TE
6. TH
7. EDG
8. LEV

they prob got something like FNC swapped with DRX wrong

nah bro tf. thas shit boring as hell

EU vs NA (FNC or TH vs SEN or G2) is the best
preferably FNC vs SEN or G2 for entertainment

NAVI #1
SAW on an underdog run
Vitality looking good

probably NAVI vs VITALITY finals

Wo0t
RieNs
Benjyfishy
2 others

noooooooo lmao.
woahhhhhhh woahhhhh
EMEA outperformed PAC at all 3 events in placements lol (+2 EMEA got 2 trophies)

also top 10 teams of the year:
2023:

1. FNATIC - EMEA
2. EVIL GENIUSES - AMER
3. PAPER REX - PAC
4. LOUD - AMER
5. DRX - PAC
6. NRG - AMER
7. EDWARD GAMING - CN
8. NATUS VINCERE - EMEA
9. FUT - EMEA
10. TEAM LIQUID or GIANTS - EMEA x2

Pacific did not have overall better teams. (3rd was T1 and 4th was ZETA :skull:)

2021: EMEA > AMER > PAC
2022: EMEA = AMER > PAC > CN
2023: AMER > EMEA > PAC > CN
2024: AMER > EMEA >=? PAC > CN

EDG almost beat G2

SEN is basically guaranteed top 3

there's a case for any team in playoffs to be in finals
insane

FNATIC vs G2 has potential to get more viewers than a game with SEN

FNATIC vs G2 or FNATIC vs TH

likely finals: G2 vs TRACE/SEN/DRX

FNC got most fucked in 2024
First GENG in Shanghai despite being EMEA 1st seed
then TH in Champs

MAMA MIAA

G2 LEV FNC TH >>>>>> TH SEN GENG FPX

ok if u wanna go like that
3/8 Asia (1/2 KR, 0/2 SEA, 2/4 CN)
2/4 EMEA (2/3 EU, 0/1 TR)
3/4 AMER (2/2 NA, 1/2 LTM)

8 slots then bro
3/8 is worse than 3/4 AMER and 2/4 EMEA

No region has ever had less teams than China in the playoffs

Lowest low. +EMEA diffed APAC in average placement at Shanghai (PRX & T1 were ass) so it wasnt like APAC was the best at Shanghai or anything

they arent looking insane LMFAO

they went against bumass FUT and brainrotRX with their toxic players that FNS should not be supporting

NAHHH LMFAOOO
IM ACTUALLY DYING OF LAUGHTER BROO AINY NO WAYKFJKSA KJ AJSKNF

yeah I know but like just them being very dominant 2 best regions with PAC and CN not even close

I want EMEA vs AMER domination like in 2021 and mostly in 2022 (other than DRX and PRX sneaking in)

anything else

Do you all agree with this 9-12 & 13-16 ranking?

9th: Gen.G
10th: Team Vitality
11th: KRU
12th: PRX
13th: Fun Plus Phoenix
14th: FUT
15th: Talon
16th: Bilibili Gaming

rigged..
worst thing is that if Vitality won, it would be all 3 EMEA teams + g2 on same side of bracket

this is actually dumb