1. CN winning
2. SEN Winning
3. LEV winning
4. G2 winning
5. FNC winning
6. TH winning
7. DRX winning

ignoring that previous teams are obviously going to be weaker than today's teams, this is a comparison between how close 1st and 2nd were

1. OPTIC 22 (Istanbul)
2. GMB 21 (Champions)
3. GENG 24 (Madrid)
4. LOUD 23 (Sao Paulo)
5. FNC 21 (Reykavik)
6. PRX 23 (Los Angeles)
7. TH 24 (Shanghai)
8. PRX 22 (Copenhagen)
9. EG 23 (Tokyo)
10. ENVY 21 (Berlin)
11. LOUD 22 (Reykavik)

bro wtf did I just read?

0/8

https://www.vlr.gg/312778/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-ubf
https://www.vlr.gg/99720/cloud9-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-w5
https://www.vlr.gg/183781/nrg-esports-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w2
https://www.vlr.gg/70078/sentinels-vs-version1-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-w5

why does that matter LMFAO???

also Chronicle is on flex. He sets other up to get kills, not himself dumass

you are an idiot

updated until Toronto 2025

Trophies: Chronicle Wins +1 points

Finals Appearances: Chronicle Wins +1 points

Top 4 Appearances: Chronicle Wins +0.5 points

Top 8/Playoffs Appearances: Chronicle Wins +0.5 points

Average Champions Placement: Aspas Wins +1 points

Roles Played at a GOAT tier Level: Chronicle Wins +1 points

GOAT Teams: Chronicle Wins +1 points

Comparison of Player Ranking for different years: Chronicle Wins +1 points

GOAT Placements on Different Roles: Chronicle Wins +1 points

Head-To-Head Series: Aspas Wins +1 points

Head-To-Head Maps: Aspas Wins +0.5 points

International Appearances: Aspas Wins +1 points

International Win Record: Chronicle Wins +1 Points

Chronicle 8.0 points to 4.5 points Aspas

Chronicle is the GOAT!

TLDR: Chronicle Goat Flex + 4th Goat Initiator (behind Leo Sacy Crashies) >>> Goat Duelist Aspas

It is simple Math

0/8 bro LMFAO

he has most longevity of any player in the game

wait wtf
his stats are that high during stage 1????

wow. D00mbr0s leaving was a catastrophe

Derke 2021-2022 clears tf out of Derke 2024

theyve also always one at least 1 game in lowers

https://www.vlr.gg/event/799/champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers/open-qualifier-1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/799/champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers/open-qualifier-2
https://www.vlr.gg/event/800/champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers/open-qualifier-1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/800/champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers/open-qualifier-2

2022 NA was ass, but these were so much fun to watch

franchising's only con basically is losing this

yes I remember this. too legendary

? (doesnt necessarily have to be some scoreline throw)
like actual round/map throws

wtf lmaooooo

I think Twisten was maybe German

also in 2022 EMEA, there were 2 German teams in tier 1 (BIG and FOKUS) and so the known German players from those teams are like Obnoks, luckerrr, musashi, bucher, etc

Even RieNs predicted SEN to win

Geng is overrated asf just cuz they won Shanghai mickey mouse

The curse is still there. It is just after 2 events now

Eg 2nd, to didnt attend Madrid
Prx 2nd to 5th6th in Shanghai (basically fell off)
Geng 2nd to grouped at Champions
Th 2nd to should fall off by first event of 2025

W

Team Heretics.

this team boutta go 0-2 or 1-2 (maybe they beat LEV)

G2 vs DRX
DRX 3-1 G2

0/8 LMAO

bro said best region in CS ICANT

even Asia with The MONGOLZ is doing better than NA in CS rn KEKW

first, you do know that NA was mostly a 1 team region (OPTIC) in 2022 other than when XSET performed at Champs 2022 right?

and 2nd, ACEND had better results lmao (in a better and more competitive region for the time)

EG will eventually surpass Acend as time goes on but rn ACEND clears

broooo??

KRU 7th-8th, 5th-8th, 3rd, 11th-12th, 9th-10th, 9th-12th, 17th-32nd, N/A, 13th-16th, N/A, N/A, 9th-12th
is better than
LEV N/A, N/A, N/A, N/A, 5th-6th, 7th-8th, 5th-8th, N/A, N/A, N/A, 9th-10th, Champs 2024 min: top 8

GAMBIT > EG in 2021: GAMBIT 1st Masters 1 2021 CIS, 1st Masters 3 Berlin 2021, 2nd Champions 2021
M3C > EG in 2022
EG Tokyo 2nd and 1st Champions 2023
EG shit in 2024

ACEND > EG in 2021: ACEND 1st Masters 1 2021 EU, 5th-8th Masters 3 Berlin 2021, 1st Champions 2021
ACEND > EG in 2022
EG Tokyo 2nd and 1st Champions 2023
EG shit in 2024

literally the only thing EG has done is 2nd in Tokyo and 1st at Champions 2023 and in EVERY other stage of Valorant, they are irrelevant

it is? how is it not?

yeah but I actually also think they shouldnt be > DRX yet so I put them lower

but like TL (4th seed) got 7th-8th, G2 (3rd best team) got 5th-6th

FPX clears tf out of ZETA's fluke run and clears PRX playstyle (like they did in Copenhagen finals) (like surely 1st-3rd)

also FPX-EU 2021 >>>>>>> EG in 2021 + Ange1 was super good igl that a lot of people learned from at that time (2020-early 2021)
also NAVI 2024 >>>> EG 2024 (NAVI only fell off in Stage 2, but looked way better than EG in Kickoff and Stage 1)

Team Heretics won First Strike EU 2020, 2nd Masters 1 2021 EU, 7th-8th Madrid 2024, 2nd in Masters Shanghai 2024, Top 8 minimum Champs 2024

Gambit won 2 masters (Masters 1 2021 CIS)
Gambit also clears tf out of Demon1. you sir are a fish

FPX 2022-NAVI 2023: 1st-3rd, 1st, 4th, 3rd-4th, 11th-12th, 9th-12th (realistically 6th-7th and not 9th-12th at Champs 23 though)

GAMBIT > EG in 2021: GAMBIT 1st Masters 1 2021 CIS, 1st Masters 3 Berlin 2021, 2nd Champions 2021
M3C > EG in 2022
EG Tokyo 2nd and 1st Champions 2023
EG shit in 2024

ACEND > EG in 2021: ACEND 1st Masters 1 2021 EU, 5th-8th Masters 3 Berlin 2021, 1st Champions 2021
ACEND > EG in 2022
EG Tokyo 2nd and 1st Champions 2023
EG shit in 2024

Teams in Consideration:

all time top 10 change over events:

ALL TIME SUCCESS (2020-2025)

1. FNATIC - EMEA
2. LOUD - AMER
3. PAPER REX - PAC (⬆️+3)
4. ENVY(2020-21)/OPTIC(2022)/NRG(2023-25) - AMER (⬇️-1)
5. SENTINELS - AMER (⬇️-1)
6. FPX(EU 2020-22)/NATUS VINCERE(2023-25) - EMEA (⬇️-1)
7. GAMBIT - EMEA
8. GEN.G(KR) - PAC
9. EDWARD GAMING - CN
10. ACEND - EMEA

-

11. EVIL GENIUSES - AMER
12. VS/DRX - PAC
13. TEAM LIQUID - EMEA
14. TEAM HERETICS - EMEA
15. KRÜ - AMER
16. G2(NA)/THE GUARD - AMER (⬆️+1)
17. T1(KR) - PAC (⬇️-1)
18. 100 THIEVES - AMER
19. AUSTRALS(2021)/LEVIATÁN(2022-25) - AMER
20. FUT - EMEA

-

21. G2(EU) - EMEA
22. X10/XERXIA/TALON - PAC
23. XSET - AMER
24. GUILD - EMEA
25. C9 - AMER
26. ZETA - PAC
27. TEAM VITALITY - EMEA
28. TEAM SECRET - PAC
29. NUTURN - PAC
30. WOLVES - CN

EDITS:

Feb-Apr 2025: 
- [T1] 25 -> 23
- [G2(NA)] 19 -> 16, [T1] 23 -> 16 + [G2(NA)] 16 -> 17 = [100T] from 16->18, [AUSTRALS/LEV] from 17->19, [FUT] from 18->20, [G2(EU)] from 20->21, [X10/XIA/TLN] from 21->22, [XSET] from 22->23
- [VS/DRX] 13 -> 12, [TEAM LIQUID] 14 -> 13, [TEAM HERETICS] 12 -> 14, [GEN.G] from 11 -> 10, [EVIL GENIUSES] from 10 -> 11
- [C9] 29 -> 25, [ZETA] 25 -> 26, [VITALITY] - -> 27, [FPX] 26 -> 28, [TEAM SECRET] 27 -> 29, [GIANTS GAMING/GIANTX] 28 -> 30, [NUTURN] 30 -> -, 
- [PAPER REX] 8 -> 7, [GAMBIT] 7 -> 8, [GEN.G] 10 -> 9, [ACEND] 9 -> 10

brother. SEN lost to fucking G2 0-2 (and G2 was a fucking shit team (EMEA 4th seed) in general))
SEN was not good after Reykjavik 2021 and KRU beating SEN in Champs 2021 was not an upset, sorry to break it to you.

Bro im actually dead. LEV Ceo did it to him too : https://x.com/FerMagoDiez/status/1822579479094727145

Morocco isnt partially asia bro. just cuz MENA is, doesnt mean Johnqt (Morocco) is "partially" Asia (which makes you saying "MENA is also partially asia" meaningless)

5 top 4s

ANGE1W

. but Ange1 isnt the problem. It is d00mbr0s being kicked. Remember how good everyone saw NAVI as before Stage 2.

LMFAOOO W

USA geography KEKW. Morocco isnt ASIA LMFAOOO

China wouldve won champs before PACIFIC KEKW

https://www.vlr.gg/348461/fut-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r3
-> https://www.vlr.gg/353185/leviat-n-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w2

no they werent. I watched both regions and some of the shit I saw in PACIFIC gotta get cancelled bro (Talon vs DRX game in group stage ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️)

you are a SEN fan. no shit you dont think they are bad. it is the dream bracket for SEN

wth did I just read

on the match page of the teams.

sadly, it doesnt show org based H2H. so if we wanted to see FNC vs NAVI/FPX(EU), it would only show FNC vs NAVI previous matches and you would have to check FNC vs FPX(EU) on your own

you cant have Trace and Lev on the same side of bracket

1. PACIFIC diffs EMEA in placements at Madrid
2. EMEA diffs PACIFIC in placement at Shanghai
3. EMEA will 99% chance to diff PACIFIC in placement at Champions 2024
4. PACIFIC Trophies: 1, EMEA Trophies: 0
5. PACIFIC 5-2 H2H EMEA in SERIES, PACIFIC 14-9 H2H EMEA in MAPS
6. However, PACIFIC has T1 GE BLEED DFM ZETA and the fact that EMEA Top 3/Top 4 is diffing PACIFIC Top 3/Top 4 in placements makes it kinda obvious EMEA > PACIFIC no (no EMEA team was terrible like PACIFIC bottom 5 this year)?

where did you find this?

ALL OTHER RANKINGS ARE BIASED/STUPID/NOT VALID

1. G2
2. SEN
3. DRX
4. FNC
5. TE
6. TH
7. EDG
8. LEV

they prob got something like FNC swapped with DRX wrong

nah bro tf. thas shit boring as hell

EU vs NA (FNC or TH vs SEN or G2) is the best
preferably FNC vs SEN or G2 for entertainment