without FNC. yes guys les just ignore FNATIC. That is a normal thing to do.
this also applies to americas (without SEN)
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without FNC. yes guys les just ignore FNATIC. That is a normal thing to do.
this also applies to americas (without SEN)
nah they lose to GEN.G and then lose to PRX (1st and 3rd)
FNC gets 2nd
are u dum? that point was already there. and you still havent responded to it and are trying to distract from it. you have no argument LMAO (biased)
"off season" my ass.
VCT Stage 1 qualified teams to this. RIOT ANNOUNCED THIS A YEAR AGO.
stay deluded or wake up.
that was just an extra point lol (to remind you about Toronto). You didnt say anything about the VCT Stage 1 point
You are just biased. Admit it
people who say that are just stupid/biased for AMERICAS' aspas
dont listen to them
you cant read huh?
respond with logic.
hijack:
S+: Champs
S: Masters, Esports World Cup
A: Kickoff Masters (Madrid, Bangkok), LOCK//IN
D: Redbull, other random offseason
S+: Champs
S: Masters, Esports World Cup
A: Kickoff Masters (Madrid, Bangkok), LOCK//IN
D: Redbull, other random offseason
yes
VCT Stage 1 qualified teams/gave advantages for this just like VCT Stage 1 qualified teams to Toronto
This also has a higher prize pool. And 0 advantages for teams with better seeding (even more fair).
Remember how all of you 2 weeks ago were talking about the 1st seeding playoffs bye for teams in Toronto was unfair (G2, RRQ, XLG, FNC) and was a big issue. Suddenly we all forget that now that EMEA is winning EWC (apac/amer biased turds).
nah ive seen his ranked games
he is definitely not the one throwing lmao. his ascendant/immortal teammates are something else (cant be real people using real brains)
Bro we already said he was the GOAT after Toronto
it isnt a discussion anymore (for now)
4.0
3.5 if you think LOCK//IN, Madrid, Bangkok are mickeys since they are such flukey kickoffs
???
why r u saying EMEA was the worst in the last 4 tourneys?? have u been brainwashed by American/Asian propaganda??
they were always top 2 region in each of the last 4 tournaments:
Well APAC era did not actually start until 2025
Shanghai - EMEA had the best average placement and just lost the finals 2-3 unlucky but still best region by placements (Pacific was 3rd)
Champs 2024 - Pacific does not want to talk about this 💀💀💀
It is lol
VCT STAGE 1 qualified teams to this
Higher prize pool than Toronto and even more than Bangkok
and the EWC will be happening in Valorant for another 3-4 years I believe
ye I saw Lothar's argument for no Alfajer. makes sense if you think about it in the way Lothar made his list (his list is mostly based on contributions to the game rather than most success/top performances).
but I think yay definitely needs to be here.
nah but u should stop spreading misinfo
??
JoshRT literally agreed with Lothar
You know the current G2 team and Lothar are friends btw. G2 Jawgemo even got some Yoru strats (that he used) from Lothar (since Lothar is one of the best Yorus strategically)
ye that is a good change ig
not that wild. Cned was better than TenZ in 2021 (at least that is what ppl said in 2021 and not today - where we are all influenced by AMER/APAC propaganda). tenz was irrelevant in 2022, 2023. while cNed did pretty good in 2023 on NAVI and okay in 2024 on FUT (probably slightly under the value of TenZ in 2024)
its pretty good but Leo and Zekken a bit too high
I can see why he put FNS high since they (FNS & Lothar & Steel too) have a similar mind for the game. He also put Saadhak and IGLs in general (Boaster, Stax) high. W
this is the 2nd best list I've seen. Sideshow's was slightly better
edit: wtf. NO ALFAJER or YAY????????????????????
"more important" my ass
EWC has more prize money for the winner. When you low attention span users should stick to the low attention span (look at prize pool), then you don't. Biased for sure.
0/8
when you cannot respond/use logic in a convo, you will go towards baiting LMFAO
you clearly didnt read anything other than when I mentioned the prize pool (your low attention span can only look at numbers LMFAO)
NA fans wont comment on that. But what they dont know is that OPTIC said their trophy was mickey (EMEA > NA):
OPTIC interview after they got a trophy on the timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBOI6WjHVKM&t=2295s
you dont know how to read or use your brain cells if you are calling that single iq digits lmfao.
0/8
all these PACcers and AMERICAS fans are delusional cuz their teams are shit.
This event literally cannot be mickey mouse.
The best teams from VCT Stage 1 are competing, the best team will win (single-elim and no map advantages in finals), and top that off with the high prize pool.
this is not mickey mouse lol
all these PACcers and AMERICAS fans are delusional cuz their teams are shit.
VCT Stage 1 literally qualified teams to EWC and gave advantages in the qualifiers (VCT is not mickey mouse right cuz PRX won it right?).
Then, there is the 1.25mil prize pool.
This event literally cannot be mickey mouse. The best team will win and VCT Stage 1 decided the teams here.
ah yes. he hasnt
but what he did in the 5 events he did go to outweighs f0rsaken's player performance all time.
obviously f0rsaken is more successful since he has played on Paper Rex while Yay is stuck with NA bots, but Yay clears f0rsaken in player performance until now easily. also you saying that definitely shows you know nothing about yay and are just a new VCT viewer
#1 player of 2021 and #1 player of 2022 are definitely higher than f0rsaken for now. 2025 isnt even over so we cant say if f0rsaken is the #1 of 2025.
and in the other years, f0rsaken hasnt really been high in the top players of each year list (his stats are so bad)
Yay was the #1 player of 2022 and better than all other #1 player of years by a lot
Just go look at his 2022 stats and you will see that he had the best prime in Valorant (I also remember watching it, but for a new viewer like you, you can only look at the stats). even i got shocked for the first time in a while when i looked at them. the consistency in being a top stat player for like 5 events in a row was INSANE
Also he was a top 5-7 player in 2021 as well.
and Boaster is the GOAT igl
PLAT CHAT had Leo at 10 and TenZ at 5. They are definitely not reliable lol (also they were affected by recency bias)
Community put tenz at 4 and derke at 8 lmao. Not reliable either.
The only good take that Plat Chat had was Chron Aspas Derke top 3 (and even then Derke should be higher than Aspas by now)
He isnt in top 5. yall are so affected by recency bias its insane
Chron Derke Aspas Alfajer and Leo/Boaster/Sacy/Meteor/Nats/Yay clear all time for sure.
yes he was good before but Toronto was definitely his peak so far (stats-wise and just in general).
btw im not saying f0rsaken isnt a top player, i just see 9-10 players being better than him all time
most fans that are talking at this time are pacific fans
just like "emea bias" "na bias"
nah he is just moving into top 10 players OAT (around 10-13)
be realistic and look at his stats before Toronto lmao
he is only high in people's rankings cuz of recency bias + Asian bias
i mean he is also playing against the aimers on Paper Rex
PACIFIC CHAMPIONS: 0
CHINA CHAMPIONS: 1
EMEA CHAMPIONS: 1
AMER CHAMPIONS: 2
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
BRO IS MOVING INTO TOP 20 NGL (he is prob 21-25ish rn)
nah that knife is fucked up
Boaster cant be done like that
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Pacific is a fraudulent region that only gets to finals at 8-team mickey events and then flop at champions
(5th-6th was their highest placement at Champs 2024 💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡)
Cope
EMEA 2-0 PAC
enjoy your consolation finals
EMEA best region of 2025
GEN.G 2-0
TH are totally for sure definitely no way winning this
Unfake Kovaq whomegalul???
Kicks dogshit whomegalul???
Free Derke
Free Less
edit: 1 day left til this match. will the whomegaluls be good or will botality remain bots??
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