no internationals, no win (no navi for now)

hijack:
2025 TOP TEAMS (trophies are valued the most, the rest is placements. Event value is Toronto = Riyadh > Bangkok):

1. Paper Rex (N/A, 1st, 3rd/4th) - PAC
2. T1 (1st, N/A, N/A) - PAC
3. Fnatic (N/A, 2nd, 1st/2nd) - EMEA
4. G2 (2nd, 4th, 13th-16th) - AMER
5. Gen.G (N/A, 5th-6th, 3rd/4th) - PAC
6. Team Heretics (N/A, 11th-12th, 1st/2nd) - EMEA
7. Sentinels (7th-8th, 5th-6th, 5th-8th) - AMER
8. Team Liquid (5th-6th, 9th-10th, N/A) - EMEA
9. Wolves Esports (N/A, 3rd, N/A) - CN
10. EDward Gaming (3rd, N/A, 9th-12th) - CN

FNATIC can move to #1. TH can end up between #2-#6

11-22:

liquid??? unknown so ucant rank em

tarik?
Fns?
mixwell?
kamet0?

not big enough for u????

s0m

as long as there is not a full wipeout of the roster, imma just count them together
an all time team ranking is too hard otherwise if i have to consider the different roster variations of each org

yeah they bumped up 4 spots after Toronto (having a decent trophy (Masters/Champs) matters in this and so getting that trophy significantly bumps them up with the good results they had before)

PRX are tied with FNATIC for most top 4s (6).
PRX are tied with FNATIC for most international appearances (11/14).
PRX are tied with ENVY/OPTC/NRG and LOUD for the 2nd most top 2s (3), FNATIC has 4 top 2s.

with EWC, Paper Rex's lead on NV/OPTC/NRG and LOUD gets stronger

tom and mitch 💀. worst analysis and definitely the most cringe

Sideshow/Bren and Pansy/Hypoc tied for #1

boaster.

you forgot the goat of the weapon - operator: cNed
and you forgot the goat of the weapon: phantom: nAts

ALL TIME SUCCESS (2020-2025)

do not reply and let this disappear pls.

hijack:
2021: GMB, ACE, SEN
2022: OPTC, LOUD, FPX(EMEA)
2023: FNC, EG, PRX
2024: GEN.G, EDG, SEN
2025: PRX, T1, FNC
overall: FNC, PRX, ENVY/OPTC/NRG, LOUD, SEN

people genuinely are just forgetting Acend was good throughout 2021, won masters 1 EU, and champs > masters of SEN. Literally everyone ranked Acend > Sen in the good old days. Suddenly, now that we are all fed the Americas and anti-EMEA propaganda, SEN > ACEND?????

also EDG > SEN in 2024. Champs > Masters and EDG were at least attending Shanghai (SEN didnt even go). its a fact:
EDG: 5th-6th, 7th-8th, 1st (Champs)
SEN: 1st (Masters), grouped in Americas/Not Applicable, 4th

GMB, ACE, SEN
please stop forgetting Acend was good throughout 2021 and not only Champs 2021

PLEASE STOP FALLING FOR AMER/PAC PROPAGANDA

Acend's champions win was not a fluke. They contributed to the game with their absurd Bind and Split comps. Please stop forgetting this.

also 2024: GEN.G, EDG, SEN
also 2025: PRX, T1, FNC (we will see how this changes tomorrow)

FINALS APPEARANCES:
EMEA: 1.8
AMER: 0.2
PAC: 0.0

PACIFIC 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

EMEA is NOT the best region of 2025 overall yet

but right now, they are

bc they did worse earlier btw (no 1st seed disadvantage)

3-0 for a reason. unlike

• GENG 3-2
• EDG 3-2
• PRX 3-1 (close maps)

but obviously you don’t care.

omg im gonna use this in the next copypasta. tysm

Miniboo????????????????????????????

👻👻👻👻👻👻👻👻👻👻👻👻

bro i cant stop laughing help me bro

6th GF loss 🫵😂😂🫵😂🫵🤣🫵🤣2nd place merchants🫵😂🫵😂🫵😂🫵😂🫵😂🫵😂🫵😂🫵😂

based on results tomorrow

dont do it

nah Id put Gen.G above

just waiting for the final results of ewc

drx actually getting another 5th-6th in big 2025 (bangkok) is depressing

2025 TOP TEAMS (trophies are valued the most, the rest is placements. Event value is Toronto = Riyadh > Bangkok):

1. Paper Rex (N/A, 1st, 3rd/4th) - PAC
2. T1 (1st, N/A, N/A) - PAC
3. Fnatic (N/A, 2nd, 1st/2nd) - EMEA
4. G2 (2nd, 4th, 13th-16th) - AMER
5. Gen.G (N/A, 5th-6th, 3rd/4th) - PAC
6. Team Heretics (N/A, 11th-12th, 1st/2nd) - EMEA
7. Sentinels (7th-8th, 5th-6th, 5th-8th) - AMER
8. Team Liquid (5th-6th, 9th-10th, N/A) - EMEA
9. Wolves Esports (N/A, 3rd, N/A) - CN
10. EDward Gaming (3rd, N/A, 9th-12th) - CN

FNATIC can move to #1. TH can end up between #2-#6

11-22:

already know what happens when heretics get to grands

W. they cant even win so whas the point of watching bumeretics

gonna also watch the PRX GEN.G game

Bo1s are irrelvant though There is a bo3 double-elimination in the groups (where the bo1 is).

Furthermore, the EWC playoffs doesnt give an advantage to the higher seeding teams in EWC groups and rather does a coin toss to decide who gets to choose which team is team A and team B.

no. they played in the same qualifiers so they were the same region

dumass?
they reached 3/4 of the last finals that matter, amer only 1, cn only 1, pac also 3

you were supposed to write "no trophies that matter". fixed it for u

crazy fact (-1 days) lol

W

MaKo with a trophy or 2 becomes a top 3 player all time in Valorant btw

PACIFIC? CHAMPIONS?? 0 🤣🤣🤣

interesting

goat of the operator, charles Ned himself, is back

saadhak

nah its losers finals (P00per r0x, G0ng)

last 5 international events trophies (shanghai, seoul, bangkok, toronto, riyadh):
PAC: 3
EMEA: 1
CN: 1
AMER: 0

americas🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

last 5 international events grand finals appearances:
EMEA: 5
PAC: 3
CN: 1 (Champs)
AMER: 1 (Kickoff Masters)

americas🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

would you still think EWC's the same tier as Masters?

https://www.vlr.gg/512296/ewc-matters-not-mickey-mouse/

last 5 international events trophies:
PAC: 3
EMEA: 1
CN: 1
AMER: 0

americas🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

last 5 international events grand finals appearances:
EMEA: 5
PAC: 3
CN: 1 (Champs)
AMER: 1 (Kickoff Masters)

americas🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

LMFAO

what happened btw. "fake numbers"

Bangkok, Toronto, Riyadh
EMEA: $1,100,000 USD
PAC: $950,000 USD
AMER: $360,000 USD
CHINA: $340,000 USD

EMEA #1

this is basically what it was in Toronto though lmao

1. PAC/EMEA
2. PAC/EMEA
3. AMER
4. CHINA

WWW

cope

I think there is a TMV video on the match where he talked about it so that is the proof i remember (back when TMV was a decent/mid analyst). TMV is dogshit now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Tt1BPzSDM

i also remember seeing it personally, but didnt take a screenshot for this conversation unfortunately

thas not how esports orgs work bum

Sayf Ult is the best ult in Valorant yes.

W

1. Event Tier Ranking:

   • S+: Champs
   • S: Masters, Esports World Cup
   • A: Kickoff Masters (Madrid, Bangkok), LOCK//IN
   • D: Redbull, other random offseason

2. Reasons why EWC is not mickey (give your arguments against this if you can use logic):

   • VCT Stage 1, the tournament that qualified teams to Toronto (which you guys do not say is Mickey despite some momentum/warm-up disadvantages for 1st seed teams in Toronto playoffs), is the same tournament that qualified teams to EWC/gave advantages for the 3rd/4th place VCT Stage 1 teams in the EWC qualifer. Teams were trying to qualify to EWC and Toronto when playing in VCT Stage 1 (EWC was a higher priority though since it has a higher prize pool).
   • The higher prize pool (1.25mil > 1mil. 500k for the winner at EWC > 350k for the winner at Toronto)
   • No byes for any teams (no teams are instantly in playoffs). This makes it so that all teams are equally warmed-up when in playoffs and Single-Elim is valid (the real best team wins).

this

200k on the VCT_EMEA stream alone btw

bro thinks the boaster clutch was the main highlight

it was that Fracture map representing what Valorant was. Lineup larries of Fnatic vs the aimers of Gambit. Ridiculous clutches from Mistic/Boaster, insane shots from nAts, fnatic saving ults to guarantee rounds. It was peak and i watched it live

you are an NA baiter though

and btw the reason i know this is:
you think Split was the best map in FNC vs M3C. Fracture was the actual best. You can rewatch it fully no skips and still be entertained 3 years later