you are the same type of guy who said Pacific was a competitive region while they had no international trophies until mid-2024 (only a year ago)

**I knew they were a fluke team. Fuck GEN.G for choking and creating a fake underdog story.

Heretics, Bilibili, RRQ were dogshit teams anyways though.**

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why TL is better than SEN:

• TL in Bangkok: TL wins against SEN dominantly. SEN dont win a game.
• TL in Toronto: TL wins against MIBR and has a closer game to PRX than SEN. SEN, with 2 more weeks of prep and no jetlag, only beat BLG, XLG (= to 11th-12th teams) and WOL (first ever international game and just warming up)

why VIT is better than SEN:

• VIT Top 4 + beat T1 and DRX (best team and 5th-6th team)
• SEN, 0-2 Bangkok and Chinese&ChineseteamswithSubs Wins-2 Losses Toronto. nothing notable

also I agree BLG is better than Trace. When did I disagree with that or even mention Trace??

mine were accurate

what the fuck is 3/4th last??? just say 9th-10th bro 😭

(drx 3/4th last t1 1st) blg 3rd/4th last xlg 5/6th last wolves 3rd

the way bro's trying to sneak shit with the numbers i cant bro

nah u gotta be baiting. im done with this convo

I was #27 and u were #30 no?

IM saying 2025 overall has VIT. Not current bro. Can u guys read my original message???

VIT won against T1 (1st), DRX (5th-6th)
SEN beat XI LAI (0-2 7th-8th team with a sub), BILIBILI (9th-10th, lucky to not be 11th-12th since BLG got a free game against TL without nAts), and WOL (3rd, only good win ig)

TL is just way better than SEN in both events clearly (TL and SEN shouldnt be compared).
VIT has a top 4 (better than SEN's bottom placement becuz they got a free Americas slot in Bangkok, and SEN beating chinese teams in Toronto). VIT also has a regional trophy > SEN 0 regional trophies (if that matters - i dont think so though)

SEN just has a 0-2 placement and beating Chinese teams placement. there is no way they can be counted

realistic 7th best team (after PRX, FNC, G2, WOL, GEN.G, TL) at Toronto
if they r now counted as +1 for americas region's teams, then why in 2023 were NAVI (3rd or 4th in LOCK//IN), TL (5th) and FUT (7th-8th in champs 2023) never counted as teams for EMEA in 2023 instead of only FNATIC

trust me ur biased for americas rn and we cant count SEN for americas rn

SEN 0-2 PRX, SEN -12 rounds
https://www.vlr.gg/498625/sentinels-vs-paper-rex-valorant-masters-toronto-2025-ubsf/?game=221160&tab=overview

TL 1-2 PRX, TL -8 rounds
https://www.vlr.gg/490314/paper-rex-vs-team-liquid-valorant-masters-toronto-2025-r3-1-1/?game=217272&tab=overview

this is the closest comparison we can get for right now and TL is better.
On top of this, TL had 2 weeks of prep (got very messed up with the sub situation). While SEN had 4 weeks of prep and 0 jetlag since the event was in North America.

SEN has been dogshit in the last 2 events and is just lucky that the rest of Americas is worse.
People are too biased to see that Americas is the 3rd worst region (China is the worst).

SEN went 0-2 in Bangkok.
In Toronto, SEN only beat Chinese teams (Xi LAI, BILIBILI, WOLVES when they were just warming up) in mostly close games.

TL meanwhile: https://www.vlr.gg/449003/team-liquid-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2025-masters-bangkok-r2-0-1/?game=202776&tab=overview

and TL is way better than SEN lol. and close to PRX (winners of the tournament)

"Yes and?". wdym

Derke clears Aspas in every way

DERKE:

1. Derke has qualified/attended 11/14 VCT International Events (tied for the most international appearances)
   • Reykjavik 2021, Champs Berlin 2021, Reykjavik 2022(Derke had covid), Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Bangkok 2025
2. Derke has always placed top 8 teams in every tournament he attended:
   2nd, 5th-8th, 4th, 5th-6th, 1st, 1st, 4th, 7th-8th, 5th-6th, 4th
   • top 8 placements: 10/10
   • top 4 placements: 6/10
   • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
   • top 1 placements: 2/10 (2 Trophies)
3. Best Stats:
   • 1.06 (#14), 1.28 (#1), 1.09 (#18), 1.22 (#4), 1.13 (#10 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.08 (#15), 1.04 (#29), 258.5 ACS (#1 | China so no ratings), 1.22 (#2), 1.18 (#4)
   • Derke: top 10 stats for 6 tournaments
   • Derke: top 20 stats in 9 tournaments
4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
   • ~#6 player of 2021
   • ~#6 player of 2022
   • ~#5 player of 2023
   • ~#8 player of 2024
   • ~#7-#12 player of 2025 already due to insane (like INSANEEEE) performance in the first third of 2025

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ASPAS:

1. Aspas has qualified/attended 9/14 VCT International Events
   • Reykjavik 2022, Copenhagen 2022, Istanbul 2022, Sao Paulo 2023, Tokyo 2023, Los Angeles 2023, Shanghai 2024, Seoul 2024, Toronto 2025
2. Aspas placements:
   • 2nd, 11th-12th, 1st, 2nd, 7th-8th, 3rd, 9th-10th, 3rd, 11th-12th
   • top 8 placements: 6/9
   • top 4 placements: 5/9
   • top 2 placements: 3/10 (3 Grand Finals)
   • top 1 placements: 1/10 (1 Trophy)
3. Aspas stats:
   • 1.18 (#4), 1.04 (#25), 0.99 (#39), 1.11 (#13 | min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.11 (#10), 1.15 (#8), 237.8 ACS (#6 | China so no ratings), 1.14 (#11), 0.53 (#59)
   • Aspas: top 10 stats for 4 tournaments
   • Aspas: top 20 stats for 6 tournaments
4. Top 20 Players of every year: https://www.vlr.gg/371303/top-20-players-vlr-edition/ (very agreeable list)
   • #7 player of 2022
   • #4 player of 2023
   • #5 player of 2024
   • ~#16-#20 player of 2025 so far

Current means Toronto

EMEA falloff??????????

last 4 grand finals apperances (the 4 grand finals that Asia has won):

1. EMEA: 3/4 grand finals (Masters Shanghai, Champs Seoul, Masters Toronto)
2. PAC: 3/4 grand finals (Masters Shanghai, Kickoff Masters Bangkok, Masters Toronto)
3. CN: 1/4 grand finals (Champs Seoul)
4. AMER: 1/4 grand finals (Kickoff Masters Bangkok)

and you may think Americas is dogshit after looking at that^. but Top 4 Stats in the last 4 tournaments (the 4 tournaments Asia has won):

1. AMER: 6/16 Top 4s (2x Shanghai, 2x Seoul, 1x Bangkok, 1x Toronto)
2. EMEA: 4/16 Top 4s (1x Shanghai, 1x Seoul, 1x Bangkok, 1x Toronto)
3. PAC: 3/16 Top 4s (1x Shanghai, 1x Bangkok, 1x Toronto)
4. CN: 3/16 Top 4s (1x Seoul, 1x Bangkok, 1x Toronto)

winning trophies does not mean best region or best region by miles. Otherwise people wouldnt be saying AMER > EMEA in 2023 while FNATIC was winning everything.

current (Toronto):
PAC: PRX, GEN.G
EMEA: FNC, TL
AMERICAS: G2

2025 overall:
PAC: PRX, T1, maybe GEN.G, maybe DRX
EMEA: FNC, TL, VIT
AMERICAS: G2, maybe SEN

we truly do know which region is the 1 team region. EMEA is still good lol

No Derke???????????????????
and bro has cryo, zekken, jingg, and zmjjkk

WHAT THE FUCK?????????

Derke is literally better than jingg (by a LOT) in everything u mentioned for jingg, let alone what u didnt mention

zekken isnt even top 20

holy FUCKING SHIT THIS GUY HAS RECENCY BIAS LIKE INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

NO DERKE???????????????????
AHHHHHHHHHHHH

you will be posting til u die

Ange1W

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got 86/113:
mostly missed T2 newbies. at least I got TH weber (2023) though (he was the least picked)

The 27 players I missed:

1. GX ara (2025)
2. BBL AsLanM4ShadoW (2023)
3. Apeks Batujnax (2025)
4. BBL Brave (2023-24) - criminal that I forgot him
5. M8 Click (2025)
6. GX Famsii (2024)
7. KOI Filu (2025)
8. GX Flickless (2025)
9. TL Harmii (2023) - i knew TL streamer subbed in, but I forgot his exact name
10. GX Hoody (2023-24) - how did I forget???
11. Apeks Hype (2025)
12. M8 Kada (2024-25)
13. BBL LewN (2025)
14. M8 Minny (2025)
15. TL Mistic (2025) - nah how did I forget?
16. FUT Mojj (2023) - I somehow forgot the Mojj and Muj
17. FUT Muj (2023)
18. M8 nAtank (2024-25) - memory loss
19. Apeks oderus (2025)
20. BBL Profek (2025) - i knew the bald head guy, but forgot the name again
21. BBL reazy (2024)
22. TL Serial (2025) - forgettable dogshit was never good paycheck stealing player
23. KC sh1n (2023-24) - somehow forgot
24. KOI ShadoW (2024) - forgettable, but shouldve gotten him still
25. M8 Wailers (2024)
26. GX westside (2025)
27. KC Ze1sh (2023) - diabolical I didnt get this

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DRX was ur highest placement at champs 2024 (saved your region from total embarassment)

placements at champs 2024:
fraudPAC: 5th-6th, 9th-12th, 9th-12th, 13th-16th
EMEA: 2nd, 5th-6th, 9th-12th, 13th-16th
AMER: 3rd, 4th, 7th-8th, 9th-12th
CN: 1st, 7th-8th, 13th-16th, 13th-16th

hasnt even been a year since this shit performance from fraudPAC. Even worse than EMEA and AMER worst performances

i think it will be EDG, TH, LEV
CN > EMEA > AMER > fraudPAC???

1. First, why are we using Aspas's preference? He also may be saying that cuz he won a champs already, but whatever.
2. Teams are not at their peak at champions. The meta in this game constantly changes.

still we say that the best team of 2021 was Gambit, 2022 OPTIC, 2023 FNATIC, 2024 GEN.G

it isnt as important in Valorant. nobody cares about Acend, Eg, Edg

deluded

+played every role in the game
+has multiple high stats at international tournaments (best stats overall at ints)
+on Gambit 2021 (best team of 2021). on FNATIC 2023 (best team of 2023)

season 3 is like a season 2 part 2 basically (they are shorter seasons that shouldve just been together)

its not as bad as people say. still worth watching to see what happens (if you have the time)

the reason ppl say it was bad is because there were a few storylines with unsatisfying endings leading to people seeing the screen time for those storylines as a waste of time. People also disliked the inclusion of one character that kinda ruined the Squid games part of season 3.

DO NOT CLICK THE SPOILER IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED

deluded

bro forgot the actual #1 phantom skin: Prism
will give u the aim of the best phantom gamer: nAts

nerves in an off season-like tournament against an EMEA bum team (M8s)????

NAVI shouldnt be hiring players like that lmfao.

ngl FNC vs M3C fracture (1st map in the series) was the greatest map ive watched and even better than the 23-21 on Split

it was the perfect showcase to understand the type of team FNATIC is.

Hands >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feet
hands are one of the deciders for sure

lmfaoooo

nah I genuinely believe FNATIC lose

4 EU vs NA:

1. FNC vs 100T
2. TEAM HERETICS vs NRG
3. BBL vs SEN
4. KC vs G2

FNC 0-2 100T, TH 1-2 NRG, BBL 2-0 SEN, KC 1-2 G2

4 PAC vs CN:

1. PRX vs BLG
2. DRX vs XLG
3. RRQ vs TITAN
4. GEN.G vs EDG

PRX 2-0 BLG, DRX 2-0 XLG, RRQ 2-0 TITAN, GEN.G 1-2 EDG