TenZ > Derke?????????
TenZ was literally irrelevant in 2022 and 2023 and in 2021, nAts, Chronicle, and debatably cNed were better than him overall for that year
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TenZ > Derke?????????
TenZ was literally irrelevant in 2022 and 2023 and in 2021, nAts, Chronicle, and debatably cNed were better than him overall for that year
gonna ignore TenZ and Aspas in #1 and #2 since that is bait
f0rsaken has done nothing to be in top 10
he is 11-13. terrible stats and isnt even close to as good of an IGL and Valorant definer as Boaster.
F0rsaken:
International Ratings:
0.93 (#45), 1.12 (#12), 0.98 (#35), 0.91 (#57), N/A (min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 0.96 (#39), 1.01 (#33), 1.01 (#16), N/A(China), 0.95 (#49), 1.12 (#10)
only 1 tournament of being a top 10 player.
and then bro forgot it was a PRX fluke since TL had 1 less week of prep time + sub situation
thas just cuz TenZ lives rent free in Boaster and Mini's heads (Reykjavik 2021).
nothing else
bro has memory loss and forgot Bangkok(literally this year). Derke was the best player of the first third of this year and it is undebatable.
Wiped out of your brain it seems (low attention span)/PRX bias
that is one of the reasons that Derke > Aspas u retard
obviously a player who has played longer has more benefits than a new player
that is how all time player rankings work LMFAO
https://www.vlr.gg/396790/derke-aspas/
DERKE:
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ASPAS:
bro what is wrong with 5 fnatic players being in top 10?? They are objectively just there. It isnt even bias genuinely
exactly. Id put MaKo in top 10 too but moved him down 3 so that ppl can agree instead of saying "no trophies"
21-75 (no order in each category). This can be improved and is very rough:
21-30: Shao, Suygetsu, Demon1, Crashies, FNS, Zekken, d4v41, Jingg, Chichoo, Munchkin
31-40: RieNs, Ange1, Zeek, Ethan, Marved, Boostio, pAncada, Keznit, Stax, mindfreak
41-50: ScreaM, Sayf, Ardiis, Redgar, Victor, Trent, kiNgg, Something, Karon, Smoggy
51-60: Starxo, Jamppi, Sheydos, Zyppan, Wo0t, Kaajak, Leaf, Mazino, sScary
61-70: Miniboo, Benjyfishy, SicK, bang, c0m, johnqt, Heat, Zest, Rb, nobody
71-75: Nukkye, s0m, Cryo, Zellsis, Asuna
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Why Derke > Aspas? :
DERKE:
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ASPAS:
its factual not bias u dumass
FNATIC players are just the type of players for these lists
according to liquipedia he was
also f0rsaken hasnt
nt 0/8. you'll win the next ranked game for sure
no he isnt
SEN hasnt done anything this year
harbor was Saadhak
Yoru wasnt him lol. Yoru was just found by Yoru players on 1000s of hours who shared info with pros.
u have 0 ball knowledge
Zekken, Demon1 are somewhere in 21-30 with Shao, Suygetsu, Crashies, etc
2022 was Derke's prime (= to Vitality Bangkok Derke). They just had m0stic & enz0 (werent that bad, but not insane) and a non-experienced Alfajer at the time. You are clearly ragebaiting
and robbed of Reykjavik trophy due to Putin
FPX Fluke??????????????????????????????????????????????????
They were the first team to do a FULL lower bracket run for the trophy ever (and the only team to do it). and they had the whoel sub situation
They are the least fluke trophy winners ever
DERKE:
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ASPAS:
Thas what im saying WTFFFF
cancel these biased PACIFIC FANS
Chronicle is #1 though be fr. Did you forget Toronto?
#11-#13 makes sense for him right now
he has never had good stats other than 10th best stats at Toronto
and its not like he is the sole reason PRX is winning unlike Boaster's IGL
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CHRONICLE IS THE GOAT BRO
F0rsaken 4?????????????????????
TENZ 5???????????
SACY > LEO????????????????????????
METEOR higher than #10 or #11?????????????????
community:
DERKE #8??????????
ASPAS #1??????????????????????????????
F0rsaken #3????????????
DERKE:
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ASPAS:
And he wasnt even the best in 2021 factually and by everyone's opinions (nAts, Chronicle, and probably cNed were better than him in 2021 overall)
even before Alfa Toronto.
Tenz was irrelevant in 2022 and 2023
Wtf am I watching on Plat Chat???
this isnt even the community
this is plat CHAT WHAT THE FUCK??????????
plat chat is disgusting.
anyways my list:
21-75 (no order in each category). This can be improved and is very rough:
21-30: Shao, Suygetsu, Demon1, Crashies, FNS, Zekken, d4v41, Jingg, Chichoo, Munchkin
31-40: RieNs, Ange1, Zeek, Ethan, Marved, Boostio, pAncada, Keznit, Stax, mindfreak
41-50: ScreaM, Sayf, Ardiis, Redgar, Victor, Trent, kiNgg, Something, Karon, Smoggy
51-60: Starxo, Jamppi, Sheydos, Zyppan, Wo0t, Kaajak, Leaf, Mazino, sScary
61-70: Miniboo, Benjyfishy, SicK, bang, c0m, johnqt, Heat, Zest, Rb, nobody
71-75: Nukkye, s0m, Cryo, Zellsis, Asuna
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Why Derke > Aspas? :
DERKE:
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ASPAS:
ye physics 1 was made for inclusivity or some shit this year
way too easy (all the nerfs to the test too lol)
he has FK:FD of 37:31 at Toronto (also this is only 1 tournament)
that is okay, but isnt even close to as good as Alfajer's 73:45
cNed was not just good at Champs 2021 (he was really good (like not human) from 2020-2022 and still topping stats on NAVI in 2023)
he was the GOAT awp and probably still is unless u wanna argue for Zmjjkk (but he kinda doesnt AWP as much anymore).
Its the team(PRX)'s playstyle that has gotten them the success, not just forsaken
i got ez 5 on ap phys 1 (4 days of prep) and 5 on ap csa (2 days of prep)
im thinking of taking AP Chem. is it a lot of memorizng or using logic or mix?
removed him
thas why i have said before the 21-75 is rough (not in that post though)
ok keep saying im baiting instead of explaining that impact. You are the same type of person to say Boaster is not top 10. You are just biased lmao.
im not saying he isnt good, just not top 10.
here is chronicle compared to f0rsaken:
Chronicle:
2021: Initiator (Recon/Support)
2022: Initiator + Controller + Duelist + Chamber
2023: Flex Initiator (Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Flasher/Support) + Viper + Sentinel
2025: Sentinel + Viper + Flex Initiator (Flash/Support)
Trophies: 3, Finals: 5, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 8
International Appearances: 8/14
Best performances:
Berlin 2021: 2nd MVP (VERY VERY closely after nAts). The official MVP on liquipedia though (but I dont agree with liquipedia and think he was worse than nAts)
Champs 2021: MVP (but losing team), so 2nd MVP (after zeek)
Toronto 2025: 2nd MVP on losing team (3rd MVP of the series overall)
International Ratings:
1.26(#3), 1.19(#4), 1.10(#14 min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 1.19(#3), 0.94(#53), N/A(China), 1.21(#4), 1.13 (#8)
5 Tournaments of being a minimum top 8 rated player.
forsaken is only there cuz he has attended so many events
if u look at his international stats though, none of them are as impressive as what the others have really
F0rsaken:
2021: Duelist
2022: Duelist + Chamber
2023: Duelist + Initiator (Flash/Support) + Controller + Sentinel + IGL
2024: Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + Yoru + Harbor + Cypher + IGL
2025: Controller + Flex Initiator (Recon/Support) + IGL
Trophies: 1, Finals: 3, Top 4s: 6, Top 6s: 7, Top 8s: 7
International Appearances: 11/14
Best performances:
Toronto 2025: MVP of Toronto 2025's winning team (realistic: 2nd MVP)
International Ratings:
0.93 (#45), 1.12 (#12), 0.98 (#35), 0.91 (#57), N/A (min. 125 rounds LOCK//IN), 0.96 (#39), 1.01 (#33), 1.01 (#16), N/A(China), 0.95 (#49), 1.12 (#10)
1 tournament of being a top 10 player.
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idk about the book though
Hate him for what??? Ppl just hate him becuz he is Polish or something? nobody ever elaborates
yall are disgusting for that.
LotharHS
reason: VERY knowledgeable, entertaining, has a personality, mature, chill chat. And VERY fun to watch his stupid Immortal teammates throwing his games. He also does watchparties for some games and is one of the best Yoru in the world (at least strategically), with players like Jawgemo and teams like G2 taking his stuff (by asking him ofc).
2nd & 3rd would be Sideshow/Sliggy
4th FNS
being downfragged for 0 reasons. you guys are either xenophobic/racist or trying to ragebait i cant tell.
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