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That is true, but I think they do pretty good job with LoL and its leagues but letting G2 into NA would just confirm that they don't care for EMEA almost at all and that they don't want to build it to similar potential than let's say LEC in LoL. G2 is the EU team even if they don't have rosters that do good.
Their worst map
If G2 makes it to NA that is terrible thing for EU. It will just show that Riot wants to make America's the main league and that they don't care that much about EMEA. Letting biggest and most known EU org to NA.
Can't say yet. Fnatic vs 100T played Pearl and it was first official on that map for both teams. Can't judge too much considering that majority of teams are still shit on it compared to what they will be in couple months. Will was having insane game and we don't know can he keep up that form. Liquid lost all pistols and couple bonus vs Leviatan and still went 10-13 on both maps with some fixes they could convert those rounds. And Leviatan are on good form right now and even won vs PRX. And OpTic still has the problem of getting fucked on first maps and they can not keep winning 2nd and 3rd map everytime. We don't know how FPX will look like. Many questions still and things that we don't know. Too hard to judge after 1st group games.
FPX interviews and press conferences are the best
LATAM vs BR
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Subreezy's Pickem Group Day 3
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HOW MANY FACES CAN YOU RECOGNIZE
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LOUD vs. TBD – Valorant Champions 2022 Group Stage Decider (B)
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XSET vs. XERXIA Esports – Valorant Champions 2022 Group Stage Opening (C)
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Can't say yet for this year at least. FPX might be even more consistent depending on how they perform here. EMEA Stage 1 1st place and EMEA Stage 2 2nd place while OpTic placed 2nd in both NA Stages. And OpTic won Masters 1 while FPX won Masters 2. FPX couldn't attend Masters 1 while OpTic finished 3rd in Masters 2. But I do believe that full FPX would have achieved top 3 placement in Masters 1.
For all time that is true, but "right now" not sure yet.
0 am I only one who can read or am I wrong?
Others outside of half of Xerxia, half of Zeta, half of EDG, half of LEV, FURIA
sure lets see next year
They got fucked by DRX and PRX and pretty badly by FPX on Fracture. Same with Haven vs PRX. And their Icebox isn't good. Its just yay carrying them usually. Like they are getting hard owned on these maps against good teams.
They have good record on it lately tho if I'm not wrong. Before Champions obviously. I just think that their map pool isn't as convincing anymore because teams know how they play and some results show that. Not picking Bind was bit surprising, but I guess LOUD are good on it and OpTic maybe tried to bait them into preparing for it.
True unless OpTic reverse sweeps. OpTic has been bit meh for some time. Not bad, but not as good as before. They constantly get 13-5>'d by teams nowadays. Its not good look even if they end up coming back.
I don't know maybe their map pool just isn't that good anymore. Breeze has been one of their best maps as of late. They have been rolled on maps like Fracture and Haven(?). And their Icebox is pretty weak and is just Yay show.
I didn't even realize the game started. What happened? 11-1 first half??
Fnatic doesn't have to replace Boaster or Mini tho. And 7ssk7 is good when in form. He has been inconsistent in the past, but he put up nice performances during Stage 2 and LCQ. At least he is better and more proven than d3ffo or purp0. And also need to remember that he was playing on NaVi that had problems of their own. He could perform well in roster that has better support players.
I'm fan of TL like all of EMEA but I'm not delusional like most fans are
Was he tho? I was pretty disappointed of his performance during Copenhagen. He kept Fnatic in the tournament due to clutches on Bind, but outside of that he didn't perform to my expectations. In EMEA he was cold and good at anchoring and clutch situation while having arguably 2nd best Fade util at time (behind Shao). But on LAN he has looked pretty shaky most of time and a lot of times he seems to be pretty unaware of what is happening around him Easy to say as spectator. And even his utility has felt weaker. Reminds me a lot of him during Reykjavik even if he was a sub. Just really shaky and tunnel vision at times.
Oh yeah forgot that, but meant vs 100T. Japan was garbage back then.
yeah but its banter afterall
This. Most EMEA teams have always missed that final piece. Even when Gambit was on top their duelist role was clear problem. Hopefully this will get fixed for next year and I really really hope orgs actually spend the money to build super rosters.
Just think of fantasy teams like M3C +7ssk7, Fnatic +Leo and hoody/sheydos, Guild +nukkye or hoody/sheydos, TL +Koldamenta or Redgar, NaVi +nAts, Redgar, sheydos/Chronicle etc. Many of them are unlikely, but damn would these already decent teams get upgraded.
Non-EMEA fans need to remember this as well because they always act like if they won the tournament after beating EMEA teams.... Like if they defeated the Goliath.
I know that this is bait, but EMEA will have stacked af teams next year as long as orgs actually put in the money. Many rosters with clear problems could get fixed for next year. Players from Guild, M3C and Acend(mainly cNed and Monster) will hopefully get poached by orgs like TL, G2, NaVi, Fnatic(mby). And yes that will also happen with other regions, but I don't think it would make as big of a difference. Like think M3C with proper duelist like 7ssk7, or TL with proper IGL, G2 with proper IGL, Fnatic with firepower upgrade, Guild but without Russ etc.
Gambit lost their first game and still won the whole event. Its not over yet. TL didn't look impressive against Leviatan, but then again Leviatan played super well and even 2-0'd PRX. And maybe as COPIUM take or maybe I'm clueless I think TL should match up pretty well against EDG and PRX considering that you don't have to outsmart them too much because they play so different anyway. Just confidence and clicking heads. And Fnatic has all the chances to beat Furia or DRX/100T as long as they don't lose good mental and their players perform to somewhat ok level (Enzo, Mistic, Boaster mainly).
yeah their half shields buys threw them rounds and their pistols aren't the best but Enzo going -18 no matter how big of a role player he is and Mistic going -9 on last map and way overperformed on Bind compared to his average while Boaster the IGL goes -20 just isn't enough. Compared to Derke +18 and Alfajer +5 even with weaker first map. Obviously you can't put everything on stats because of different roles and such, but Fnatic feel really similar to XSET right now where its just Cryo and Zekken while other 3 put up bad performances consistently.
Like look at teams like OpTic having Yay, Marved and crashies who are all good individually even if Victor (hard entry so understandable kinda) and FNS didn't perform as well. FPX with Shao, Suygetsu, Ardiis and Zyppan at times. PRX with Jingg, Forsaken, Mindfreak etc. 3 out of Fnatic's 5 just aren't that good individually or at least not consistently.
Boaster is fine. He does his job fine even if his fragging is weak. Its just having him being inconsistent and bad individually most of the time and then having Enzo and Mistic who are also inconsistent is just really bad thing. They brought Alfajer in for firepower, but I don't think that is enough.
flair = fan or I mean yeah I am fan but not like that
The Guard looked pretty bad during the finals though.
Sadly Enzo has been really disappointing in every LAN tournament so far. He looked good during stage 2 of EMEA but never delivers on LAN (outside of couple clutches). He just looks shaky and kind of clueless often. Its not time for replacement yet, but he needs to step up.
yeah they are getting fucked by smgs every time
Yeah, but I think they have time to improve and I liked this comp change a lot.
Risky map pick from Fnatic that ended up costing them first map
You can believe that you have good idea of it but it can still suck when playing officials. Why do you think teams come up with crazy comps and strats that end up sucking in officials? International tournaments are where metas get defined.
Its still new map with really limited amount of international games. Teams are still figuring out how to play it and it will evolve much during Champions and after. 100T just had better idea and that's it.
I mean its no brainer considering that 100T came out of LCQ so little time to prepare. But my point is that even with more prepare time you may still have worse idea of the map.
first Pearl official for both of the teams. Fnatic had more time to prepare and scrim but that doesn't mean they are automatically better when it comes to prep and strats etc
only because Furia mental fucked under pressure