no, OWL only did because they thought they would become mainstream
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no, OWL only did because they thought they would become mainstream
True, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Champions was the biggest Valorant event yet and 2nd Valorant official event ever with actual crowd (Copenhagen was pretty small crowd wise, so in a way it was supposed to be the first proper one). They even flew bunch of content creators there. While crowded events aren't new in CSGO and finals was played by 2 not that popular teams. So it is good for Valorant but there are factors that might have increased the viewership for Champions 2022 while there was factors that decreased the viewership for Rio Major.
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Not really. Valorant masters are pretty comparable to CSGO Majors considering that there was only 2 of them + Champions in a year while CSGO has 2 Majors in a year. Champions is more special with skin release etc, but Valorant Master isn't like ESL Pro League or something. Way closer to Major than to 3rd party tournament. At least in my opinion. Like no one talks about "ESL Pro League Champions", but you hear people talking about Masters Champions and even MSI Champions in LoL that also has 2 aka "minor"(MSI) and "major"(Worlds) system.
Let's be real:
Stockholm 21 - NaVi vs G2
Antwerp 22 - NaVi vs FaZe
Rio 22 - Heroic vs Outsiders
Its almost like going from top EU vs top NA finals to XSET vs Xerxia finals in Valorant. Also this Major has been fairly boring if I'm honest. Many top teams and big names got eliminated before expected and there hasn't been many memorably moments so far. Also the crowd has been pretty meh outside of Furia games so its almost like watching online match lol. Really underwhelming major so far outside of Furia games ofc.
Crowd looks decently packed but sadly it sounds really quiet. At least on stream.
We went from NaVi (s1mple, Electronic, B1T, Boombl4, Perfecto) vs FaZe Clan (Karrigan, Twistzz, ropz, rain, broky) major final to Heroic vs Outsiders lol unlucky really but it is what it is
yeah I don't like them either, but when I bought it I didn't realize it had blue switches and for some reason I didn't send it back. Was forced to switch when old G Pro's had multiple broken keycaps because Romer-G switches are terrible for keycap breaking
Derke, Jamppi, Hoody, Bonecold and Iluri(or Famsii, H1ber.... depending what is needed don't know how flexible).
Aiming for top 3 ofc, def big underdog with Sweden and Lithuania IMO
Yeah tbh I don't even know why that is the case with Heroic. I guess they have always just been in Astralis' shadow and Heroic as org is pretty unknown. Also the players outside of cadiaN are pretty low clout. And then ofc you had the coach bug scandal that might have made some people dislike Heroic.
Yeah finals being Heroic vs Outsiders is going to hurt viewership for sure. Like even when Heroic played in Denmark their home last year the crowd seemed to not care much about them compared to Astralis because they have always been the 2nd Danish team and even to this day have kind of low clout. And Outsiders is low clout team as well. Going to be pretty "boring" finals name wise, but Cadian vs Jame IGL Awpers is going to be good.
yeah because im only 1 vote againt and 4 want Breeze... im telling already we are going to lose if enemy decides to pick it. Last time we played our Brimstone comp we didn't win more than 5 rounds against randoms in unrated. Our IGL has no idea how to call and I don't know how to play. Its bad idea, but well what can I do....
Heroic choking so bad under pressure. You can just see how much they are panicking doing dumb plays. While Furia can just live in their comfort zone and play their aggro style. Not trying to take anything away from Furia, but I think Heroic are kind of shitting themselves right now.
False, but true about unbiased because they rarely have teams to support for in games like LoL and CSGO. EU crowds are best in my opinion, but they chose Denmark for some reason like even in CSGO its really biased and sleeper when Danish teams aren't playing. Like pick France, Germany, Poland, Spain or something.
Breeze is the worst map. Case closed.
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Not for long time at least. CSGO is just different beast currently in places where its popular. It has always been popular in Brazil if I'm not wrong and they had their era, but its been pretty dry for quite long time and we are finally seeing new Brazil team rise to the top so its going to make people hype af I would imagine. Just so much passion and history that Valorant won't achieve for years.
Who is more flexible? Sayf you mean? Sayf used to be flex/sentinel player before he moved into duelist role. He even played Raze during Guild. He is really flexible and more than ScreaM. ScreaM's rifling is better, but Sayf's oping is better. As individual fragger ScreaM is likely better, but Sayf def takes it for flexibility and Chamber skills in current meta.
common thing in customer service in west because as people said companies just make foreign 3rd party companies to do the work so they save money
EG and signing twice the amount of players required
Yeah I'm not saying they will be better, but I think the roster looks slightly more well rounded for now on paper.
Like in my head Derke, Alfajer, Chronicle, Leo > Jamppi, Sayf, nAts, Soulcas, while IGLs are pretty equal for now and hard to predict tbh. especially in current meta.
Cloud is insane player, but don't underrated Soulcas. He has always been the player who gets the most shit while being the guy who flexes to whatever the team needs. Also individual speaking he is underrated. He can definitely carry his weight on this team with good skills, ability to flex and clearly good work ethics.
I think on paper Fnatic is still slightly better for now and maybe NaVi, not much though and could argue this is even better. But Liquid is still insane and even as weird as this might sound I truly think people have started to underrate players like nAts and even Jamppi a little. Soulcas and especially Sayf have always been somewhat underrated. This roster has the firepower, smartness/game sense, flexibility and experience.
Americas: I like NRG, but ofc want to see NA lose so likely SA teams
APAC: Maybe T1 because ex-OW pros but PRX is fun team as well
EMEA: every team, but especially Liquid and Vitality
Yeah really wish org like Vitality would have spent bit more on cool video or something. I think the idea is cool and could have been turned into cool video. Imagine like old school/retro style maybe even bit Starship Trooper style(if you know that movie) video of them preparing to enter the VCT/fly to space. Would have been cool af.
If I'm not wrong the rumor was that Destrian is vocal player so he likely adds a lot to comms and likely guys at Vitality rated that highly.
I don't think so. People look at this roster and see players with no clout. Guys like Molsi get no recognition while being one of the best Raze/flex players in EMEA this year. Like I understand why many think they won't perform well, but I also just feel like people are underrating them due to low name value. Again mentioning this even though its useless and dumb point, but OGLU with Molsi, Destrian, Salah(C) and Strong(C) finished in same spot in EMEA LCQ as C9 with Vanity, Leaf and Xeppaa finished in NA LCQ. But just see how people treat these 2 teams and the players in them.
Rhyme moving to smokes. Fit1nho stays as duelist, likely Chamber/Jett mainly. nukkye is titled as flex player so he likely stays playing agents like Raze, KayO, Neon whatever is needed. Hoody is titled as sentinel player, so he is likely going to switch roles and start playing agents like Viper on some maps and then maybe keep playing flasher agents on maps where they don't need proper sentinel, he is flexible and actually played Viper on Fracture for G2 sometime ago. Cloud is going to be initiator main like expected.
roles are bit confusing like you are saying, but this roster is really flexible and I don't think roles should be any issue. nukkye, hoody and Cloud have all played more than 1 role.
Same. Many are going to rate this team low and not have high expectations, but I'm a believer of this project. Like I seriously think OGLU could have done great things (esp with Salah) if they only had bit more firepower and time. They didn't get Boo(IGL) but 2 players and 2 coaches from OGLU are really nice building blocks IMO. Also Molsi finally has a duo who can peak really high and who also has more room to improve and grow in Twisten. Firepower may still become an issue, but I believe in Twisten, Molsi & ceNder trio. I think this team has the potential.
https://twitter.com/TeamVitality/status/1591053140253560833/photo/1
Molsi
Destrian
Bonecold
ceNder
Twisten
Salah - Head Coach
Gorilla - Assistant Coach
Strong - Positional Coach
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Kind of agree but its still decent. Just don't like how the crowd were booing on teams like Fnatic and C9 for no reason. Like C9 eliminated Imperial(BR team), but that doesn't mean the fans should be booing for them. Just feels weird when they aren't even playing vs Brazilian team right now. Like imagine if the finals was C9 vs NaVi(have to beat last BR team) then it would just be 2 teams that whole crowd hate.
True. But its Thursday and its like 3PM in Brazil right now so not the most ideal for big crowds. Also there's videos of huge queues outside of the arena so not sure what is that about.
Roster looks decent, but I don't have that high expectations for it. I just think this roster is so inconsistent on paper.
Zeek is guy who can be one of the bests in EMEA to not doing much next game. Avova was considered the best controller in EMEA last year and really high up even in world standards, but has been on a slump for most of this year. He had some great performances during playoffs usually, but regular season was pretty mediocre. Keloqz's highs are high, but again he is somewhat inconsistent. I think Mixwell will be fine especially if he makes room for keloqz to shine, but isn't crazy good outside of OP IMO so remains to be seen how he does. And I'm pretty high on Boo due to his time in OGLU, but he is also changing roles so who knows.
If the system works and the players find consistency in their game this team could do something. But just right now I'm too concerned of the potential consistency issues of this team. Really hope they do well though and I like Neilzinho as coach.
He was best controller in EMEA, but his performance this year has been pretty meh for most part outside of popping off in playoffs pretty much.
im pretty sure the rumor was that KCorp had to sign/keep Shin and Newzera because of the deadline and they were not able to complete deals or something before it. So its really possible there's going to be changes. Like if they tried to get someone like Enzo its possible they couldn't just do it in time if they were low on budget or something.
yeah but it says 6.135.... but I don't know is 6'1 same as 6.1 because then another says that its 6'1.62 idk its so confusing like just use cm
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