I agree, you don’t need to be a criminal to be an asshole

Don't know if flor did or didn't do it but the fact that so many people came out saying, this does fit what I know from Flor, is at the very least very concerning. Either because what type of person Flor is or because everyone around her was so extremely jealous

what's the official excuse tho

I meant they're not playing 7 matches because KOI is winning just for the sake of chaos

Zeek Kiles and jas all have experience in the matter after the Joblife/Vivo Keyd incidents

Why are you here?

"I pushed dish with my knife out"

I suppose it’s ilegal but correct me if I’m wrong, out of all the players caught match fixing/cheating in games like cs I have never heard of any facing criminal charges, just bans. I could be wrong tho

Pika disconnected on round 3 of Sunset, they called for a tech pause but the admin didn’t want to remake the round (according to the rules he should have).

They realized they made a mistake after the map was over. So since they had screwed KOI the admins solution is to now screw EP by making them replay the whole map the day after xD

Who says they’re playing 2 matches, 2-13 incoming trust

That you use existing precedent to make consistent rulings.

If they can't make consistent rulings what makes you think the past rulings were even correct in the first place tho? If the first ruling was incorrect every other ruling in the future has to be incorrect?

We currently do not consider mental when it comes to rules, so we would be introducing it into the rules entirely.

The mental thing is just 1 example, but there are more. You cannot just give 1 round because of the incident, what if they EP won the next gun round too because they had ults thanks to the incident round? How do you factor that in? Or the economy, we give KOI 1 round for economy, what if EP wanted to do a forced round instead of eco? What if they were gonna save 2 guns the previous round and they were gonna have enough money?

We're half agreeing but giving a specific number of rounds is just not accurate/fair imo, the only way of making a 100% objective and fair decision every time with no speculation is removing all of those factors, and the way you do that is by going back to the incident

Indeed you do need a consistent ruling you cannot just speculate. Which is precisely why you go back to the round where it happened. Absolutely ANY other solution IS speculating with how many rounds it did or didn't affect which no, is not as simple as having a formula for economy, I do not buy that.

You're basing your point on the fact that you shouldn't speculate and be consistent but you're not realizing going back to the moment of the issue is the most consistent and less speculative solution of them all

How do you determine the amount of rounds affected due to mental?

And how do you determine the amount of rounds affected due to economy? 1 round for economy? Who says they win the next round? What if they do and send them to eco, cycle ults and win 3 more?

You say taking mental into account can't be done because it's just speculation. But it's the other way around, that is exactly the issue. You can't determine how an issue like this affected the rest of the game in so many levels which is why you don't speculate and say "oh it affected 2 rounds" or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6, who knows, instead you do not speculate by just replaying from the issue

Btw Imo the correct solution was putting out a public statement apologizing for the mistake and probably firing the mf that took made the decision and then just moving on

fair ig

CGN I can understand but how is Focus better than KOI?

The only way of justifying it is the mental. KOI got fucked on round 3 and they knew they had been screwed over while playing the whole map, Acend weren't aware of the issue until the end of the game as far as I remember

Removing rounds that affected sounds like a terrible solution to me in any situation, the game is completely different after something like that happens. Keeping in mind that it should not be replayed now, I do think playing from the 2-0 is the correct choice.

It's kind of like in football, imagine there's a very clear pen on min 5 and it's not whistled. The game then ends 1-1. Is it fair to just assume with the pen it would have been 2-1? No, the entire game is different the strategy is different the mental is different

nah they would just continue the game 11-0 if they considered that the problem

Don't understand what you mean, the issue was on round 3. The round 3 disconnect issue is the official version and from the KOI side they have not mentioned persisting issues through the rest of the map. https://x.com/valesports_emea/status/1926394760685596934?s=46

KOI 3-0 xD

It depends on how it affects each team, they could both comeback wanting revenge for the unfair decision or they could be so tilted that they don't play correctly. I think the biggest winner here is BBL PCFC (Although tbf I don't wanna take anything away from the I think they were gonna win anyway)

Imagine KOI wins vs EP.....

This is rulebook, it's very clear https://x.com/SergioFFerra/status/1926342371723079786
And proof that the condition was met https://clips.twitch.tv/AliveDependableCarabeefMVGame-s4VjR0O6ugD3mQN9

KOI did get screwed, but that does NOT mean replaying this is the correct solution

it was def a SA accusation, and yeah they handled it really well. But for like a day or 2 his the public perception was fucked and he's totally fine now which is my point. It can be done if the parties involved are competent

Basically what happened was that Pika disconnected at the start of the first half bonus round. It was within the first minute and no damage was dealt as the rulebook specifies, round should have been remade. However the admin said he did not "hear" KOI calling for Tech pause. KOI offered proof that they did call for it in time but the admin said nah, no replay for no reason at all. After that they were 4-0 down and fuming.

Honestly I believe they were gonna lose anyway but the admin did fuck them over pretty bad. If I had to guess, I'd say EP would have won like 13-7 or something.

However man, there's mistakes that just can't be fixed, this is NOT the solution

As I said xD

Brother are the admins fucking retarded?

A good old classic with Kiles and Zeek being on the other side of that replayed game for that Vivo Keyd incident to add some irony and spice

(Nah in all seriousness not the same at all, EP is not at fault here, they didn't do anything wrong)

told you it was more serious than it looked xD

Nah but seriously what are they thinking, imagine if KOI wins tomorrow......

It depends, Flashback got accused and he was cleared very quickly, hasn't affected him much at all as far as I know

tf does that have to do with anything xD

It's fucking crazy, if KOI wins tomorrow is gonna be fucking insane. The refs completely screwed up against KOI but this was NOT the solution.

The only positive thing here is that officially 13-0 never happened xD

HUH??????? https://x.com/alexrr_official/status/1926367495583101254?s=46

Brother are the admins fucking retarded? They screwed KOI over and their solution is to screw EP over instead?

That's nonsense, it's way too fucking late now to fix the mistake, apologize, take the responsibility and move on

But the SA could just be fake, in this case, you're fucked either way xD

But yeah I mean ofc if you're guilty I'd rather be a match fixer than committing sexual assault obviously

I think this is possibly the worst accusation you can receive. Other accusations can hurt your career but you can at least clear your name at some point if you're innocent.

With Match fixing your career is over, either because you're guilty or because you're so ass at the game people genuinely think you're purposely throwing.

it's not the concept of the tournament, they would have to change it in all other games that are part of the EWC and in some it just doesn't make sense, but honestly it would be much more entertaining for valorant

I feel like all of those and the ones I can think about of the top of my head are much much worse than Riens Woot MiniBoo Marteen Narrate Elite(last year) yetujey kamo natank etc and that's just EMEA

Last year was insane ngl

I feel like last years were better? We had players like Riens Woot Karon dominating

I'm not giving any excuses I'm just pointing out Riot are fucking idiots. They would have lost anyway so let's rob them and ignore the rules?

So if I'm loosing a football game 3-0 the other team is allowed to play with their hands?

Also it's not the this happening on the 12th round than in the anti bonus

Nah bro, not how it works. They're humans, you're calling for a tech pause and they're not giving it to you, they were fuming the whole game.

I'm not saying they would have won, 99% not, and they should still be able to recompose themselves. But without that incident this would not have been anywhere close to a 13-0, and there was absolutely no reason for what they did, the rulebook is very clear

"not a shit person just a shit player"

it's not botted, it's legit

Pika Dced at the start of the first half bonus round, they notified the ref but he said he "didn't hear" them. They offered the pov VOD as proof, and they just said nah, round lost. Complete mental boom after that. Sure It wasn't looking good but man it's unfair

That is not a game I would brag about bro... shameful

Could have told them to do that before Comeback got stolen for peanuts no?

Very very sad way to go out, absolute incompetence from the refs

Not how it works, contracts have buyouts
Comeback wasn't that expensive

KOI was probably gonna lose Sunset anyway but they got robbed hard

I mean those mfs miss all the time anyway so by reverse they’re making money xD

Exactly so you just have to assume everything's rigged from now on and problem fixed xD

It's not a bait it's just a bad joke lmao
But tf you mean it's mortadelo , I don't bait

not way bro

Nah bro T2 players can't do this but if it's the WWE it's okay

jas woke up

With permission of Avez who's been frying while calling a lot

OLIZERAAAAAAA

4th knife kill