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I think one key thing is they managed to get org to invest is what really stood out for me on their CNVAL plans

like: NiP? 4AM? AG? Lots of LPL & KPL teams?
sure the player quality is still far behind but that's what you expect when orgs cant even put full investment before approval because the govt ready to yeet you to hell for doing that (like what they did with PUBG for few months)

we see that being what both CrossFire and Perfect World's CS trying to get for the Mainland for so many years but it didnt really go explosive.

CF stuck themself with only 10 orgs in a franchise and pulled worse than overwatch moves by having no T2. While CS werent moving much with PPL (and the fact that to this day, Perfect World still doesnt have a True National Chinese league as PPL is All-Asian)

This VCT CN and EVO thing comes in to fill the void where

  • One game has no Actual Tier 2
  • The other has no Actual National League

This also tops with anything riot will sold well in CN (considering the even unsuccessful Wild Rift still nets 50M+ players monthly over there)

It cause so much effect CrossFire went on panic mode by suddenly announcing a rework of their whole franchising the next year tells a lot, when they refused to do it for so many years just because there's no one else to compete with them not even CS on the national esports scene

posted about a year ago

If they their buyout value equals to $8M (that equals to a KPL spot rn) then yep

posted about a year ago

The power of King Pro League was too much for BLG

(DRG is a KPL team, so they had a lot of cash)

posted about a year ago

40 Teams compete for 4 Spots in LAN Finals, where they will join Top 4 of EVO Act 1

Notably similar teams as last act, a few new teams
Wolves (that Wolves from Premier League) IS IN THIS ACT, they managed to found a roster just in time for Act 2

posted about a year ago

No, Wolves is looking to enter as on their own brand in China (this might mean Wolves will depart away from EG deals)

posted about a year ago

Wolves finally made a move to look for a Chinese VCT Roster

Wolves Esports Division started in China FIRST with FIFA so they practically going back to their esports home

as for Wolves results in Chinese division, basically they won in almost every game they made a roster in CN: Notably Their Honor of Kings team and their COD team

posted about a year ago

It would sound really funny if the scene ended up like CODM
( a Mobile game, but North America wins Worlds somehow )

Tho I believe this to not be the case this time for VALM especially with China+Riot combo just look at how they ran CrossFire Mobile over there

If we go by the closest comparable game (CODM) Top 3 region last year were NA NA BR CN

Sounds crazy but in Mobile Esports, there's totally none of this genre except CODM (Standoff & C-OPS were too small to draw anyone good in). Finally time for this genre to get more in Mobile (This & Rainbow 6)

posted about a year ago

They basically mixed Challenger and OFF//SEASON into one go

  • For teams that eventually will get partnered later on, they are here for extra practice and some cash
  • For teams that didnt get partnered, they continue collecting points from this EVO series that grants them a seat at Ascension tournament
posted about a year ago

Yep, the tweet after this labels him as New Player

posted about a year ago

CGRS returns to MiTH after 4 years away from the org, he last compete with this org in CS

Doesnt seem like he's the only new player a Red S was highlighted at the end of video theres probably a +1

posted about a year ago

Could be a lot by this point, TJ managed to gave Wild Rift League a 7.5M CNY ($1M) which is nearly doubled of LPL's Prize Pool

hard to predict, the highest bar set for a Chinese FPS league currently is CrossFire Franchising at $480K

posted about a year ago

Its simply named "National Competition"
For starters National Competition is Tencent's way of doing their grassroot scene in China, this includes tournaments at several levels

  • Provincial level tourney (state level in the US)
  • Internet cafe tourney
  • Tournaments hosted by Streaming Platforms
  • College or School Level tournaments

Then top teams from each path collide in a LAN Finals to determine a National Champion
in some games this will send teams to T2 Leagues

Now the prize pool... This is insane even for a Tencent standard on this model on other games

  • Provincial now named as Southern and Northern Divisionals: ¥400K ($55K)
  • Internet Cafes (no prize)
  • College/High School Championship: ¥600K ($82K)
  • Streaming Platforms Qualifiers: ¥500K ($68K)
  • Finals: ¥500K ($68K)

In total of ¥2M or basically $270K

on what's basically equivalent to VRC (e.g. Project V) for China but has total prize pool higher than the partner leagues themselves
since this ran at the same time as CN EVO meant this is not Challengers China, it is even a step below. (Expect T2 CN League to be more pricey than this?)

posted about a year ago

900K CNY or $122,000 split equally as a 300K CNY or $41K in Each Act
for comparison the current Perfect World (CS) league runs at 276K CNY at the highest division

Theres also circuit points to collect, which determines top teams entering Ascension in December
( Teams that will later went on to be partnered will probably auto-exclude from the leaderboard later on)

posted about a year ago

See #6

posted about a year ago

Not all matches, but then all matches from play-in onward

posted about a year ago

None of the teams have been selected for partner yet so at this point every Chinese team is playing (incl those teams at Champions) and they'll probably be excluded from the ascension tournament later on when selected as partner

posted about a year ago

A LOT OF Surprised Organizations here
Matchups: Here

This stage is uncapped bracket that will ended up having 16 teams going into a second double elim bracket to determine 8 teams in Play-In
then from Play-In Top 4 meets Top 4 of Champions CN Qualifier in ACT 1 LAN at LPL Stadium

List of Organizations here

posted about a year ago

Yeah that but with no 6th man meant VCT league teams can chose to not do any affiliate at all right? since bare minimum is just the 5

posted about a year ago

2024 Roster Rulebook just in

It appears that Legacy Exception is also gone as well (regarding the situtation about Bleed players that recently left)

posted about a year ago

They labelled 200M+ Hours of Match Time accumulated during launch month, which they counts only Normal and Competitive modes

This doesnt tell the actual player count, but 200M+ HRS combined from just those two would still mean a lot of player count anyway right?

F, I realize its Episode 7 Act 1

posted about a year ago

The current situation about import is weird what we assumed currently is 2 Imports per team, but HK/TW will not consider as import

posted about a year ago

They are yes, but in the past its played a big part why other esports titles even non-Mobile is having hard time growing - Excessive investment into the scene is put into these 2 over every other game else

posted about a year ago

we know respectfully India is a very huge country on Mobile Device

and given that their esports presence specially mobile is heavily thanked to two games : PUBGM (known as BGMI) and Free Fire.

They were both banned around the time VALORANT arrived.

Now that BGMI passes trial period, and likely now unbanned
and today Free FIre getting unbanned, even set to gave India a World Championship host next year

tough luck to every other game over there then? But I'm more curious whether

would VAL Scene in India getting hurt from these two games coming back?

posted about a year ago

a 2nd test after the first one last month, this one is Android Only and only in China

Because the mobile VALORANT game will required a separate approval they can't just use PC's licence to get away with

Tencent cant publicly say this is VALORANT Mobile yet (as unapproved games can be censored from even saying the name), Tencent currently called them just "Project C'

posted about a year ago

Official Weibo announcement was made just today after it was rumor for shortly

Cars are fast

posted about a year ago

unrelated

posted about a year ago

not always and this comes from an APAC citizen

because NA actually already won two of 16 mobile worlds this year

posted about a year ago

Across every organization that has won both a Shooter and MOBA World Championships

EG has a chance to make it 2 Different Shooter World Championships across teams in that list
in which none in that list has achieved that feat yet (1 MOBA, 2 Shooters), should they won today

posted about a year ago

They had a lot of separate hall, like Wild Rift runs at same venue but they used a different hall

posted about a year ago
  • The three monthlies are from Sep Oct Nov
  • Probably yes and spot goes to only non partner team so the blend OFFSEASON and Challenger into one same event
posted about a year ago

3-Months series to determine teams that will played in Ascension China

  • It's also confirmed the promotion tournament for VCT China is just the Ascension China

  • Each month runs like FGC, Uncapped Open qualifier to determine 8 teams in closed qual

  • Then closed qual determined 4 teams into a Monthly LAN Playoffs against Top 4 of previous act
    (for this one, BLG/EDG/FPX/TYLOO is invited. Doesn't mean they are out of partner tho, then Top 4 of Evo Moth 1 invites to next month)

  • Three months in total to determine teams in December's Ascension China

  • ALL LANs ARE NOW PLAYED AT THE LPL STADIUM

posted about a year ago

This one is real real fun, its hard but its rewarding (Also PS5 gang as well). ESPECIALLY if you played the previous games this one's for you

posted about a year ago

Comparison to the other 12 leagues that Mainland China has

Each ILs runs at $250K currently, CF at doubled of those

posted about a year ago

EDG
FPX
BLG

JDG

NIP
TOP
WBG

a notable PUBG org for engagement
either an org from KPL (most popular chinese league outside LPL) or CFPL (largest FPS league in China currently, larger than CS Perfect World league)

posted about a year ago

Announced on their weibo

  • Has 10 teams, all partner teams they are not Buyins
  • a Promotion tournament will be held in December, winner gets the 2-year seat so its literally Ascension CN
  • to qualified for Promotion, they must gain points through a new "Evolution Series" tournaments running for the next 3 months
posted about a year ago

in China the term "VCL" is not used as Challenger or 2nd division but rather as the "College League" instead which 1 extra tier lower

Tencent esports usually have special leagues outside Top and 2nd Div, these often comes in form of:

  • College
  • High School
  • Streamer
  • Enterprise (Office Workers) Leagues

as for main league it is expected to be : National Competition >> Second League >> VCT China

posted about a year ago

Theres two type of coins

posted about a year ago

GC Qualifier China

This also introduces VALORANT being included into Tencent Game Arena or TGA, to summarize it is Tencent's own-created MLG/GameBattles equivalent

(TGA is an open platform for players of all level to compete both On-Offline with many games being hosted, sounds like MLG isnt it)

Qualifiers will be split into (the term track will be commonly used when it comes to announcing qualifier for the events in china)

  • TGA Track (this often translated to TGA Volkswagen Track) - Open Qualifier using TGA
  • TGA Provincial Track - Each Esports federation in each province are granted a qualifier to send teams to represent their province
  • Platform Track - Streaming platforms hosts qualifiers
  • 2 invite teams - the EDG Female team is probably in here

Format is then

  • 16 Teams in four groups of BO3 Round Robin
  • Group winner goes to playoffs, 2nd place all played for 2 remaining spots
  • Top 6 is a LAN, 3 teams go to East Asia qualifier against JP KR teams

Has $20,000 prize which is pretty near top for GC prize pool (only BR NA EU had more prize) and is actually the first time a VAL CN tournament had actual prize pool lol

posted about a year ago

Fair
LLA didnt do much either

posted about a year ago

Waiting for this thread but for other region at League Worlds

posted about a year ago

^ This too, even tho when they had a lot of regions (11 countries at one point during 2013) they werent really close in investment effort

posted about a year ago

They need to really like outperform everyone, If we talking the same level of dominance as CF its unlikely

CF's level of dominance saw only VN, PH the only two country to beat them on a Masters Equivalent and that's like thrice
and Brazil only Twice during these 15 years at Worlds.

If anything we should likely get, DOTA level of closeness? Regions managed to beat each other out regularly without getting stomped even the smallest ones

posted about a year ago

Quite a lot (even more beyond the screen cap)
and 2-3M+ Heat is now the norm for VALORANT both Watch Parties and Main Stream, which is a good start

Again heat IS NOT the raw viewership for China streams, it does however determines that "High = that streams is popular"

posted about a year ago

At least in China its expected for Tencent reasons, Globally well CODM have one for 4 years so Its possible (I mean they did with Wlid Rift even though it didnt last long)

posted about a year ago
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