It was an early model of your personal computer.... plz stop cause you're digging a deep 1Head pit for yourself.
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It was an early model of your personal computer.... plz stop cause you're digging a deep 1Head pit for yourself.
Even the erliest one considered contributing into computational machinery was Blaise Pascal - neither from NA.
Cough ... cough ... Alan Turing....
Broski, I never mindlessly and disrespectfully argue as I respect a nicely laid discussion which is supported by good arguments - or at least I believe in that. And there's nothing wrong in stating your own oppinion in general, you know? The only thing is we have to leave some room for ourselves to be wrong too. But instead, on occasions, some people push their own oppinions on others and try to convince them in something without any supported arguments such as stats, news or whatever.
Regarding those orgs, I'd say those guys have been around in Val pro scene since the beginning but due to some unfourtunate events they had not been given a decent chance in proving their worth. I'm not even someone to judge such people but I feel like someone like supamen, shanks, vanity, koler and the rest from those teams deserve to be amongst the best of today's Valorant in NA. There is absolutely no doubt in that but trying to fit all them in teams is actually problematic which require a certain professional vision by someone with experience. And that how we get to GIANTS with a coach by the name "pipson", and if you've followed CS, you should know who he is. I tend to believe that due to his previous experience, pipson has a good shot at making balanced teams which we currently see in face of GIANTS. So, their success is partially dependant on their management/coach vision as well as their players performance. And there is nothing groundbraking in their success as pople knew who they were from the beginning. Only those who started following Valorant recently think that such teams are "nonames" and I can't blame them for that. It's just I don't agree with pushing their oppinion on others is the right thing.
BTW, there are many more ex-pros or exceptional talents who are trying to get into Valorant scene. And from my estimation we need another maybe 2 years to stabilise the scene. I mean, I can go for 2k words to lay down the explanation but I'm sure you're here not for this.
I thought, he is going to join some Turkish roster with known players but don't quote me on that as not following cs in generall. Link to Loba:
In NA yes, it is but in EU it's 3rd or 2nd, deppends how you count it from the top as Haven and Icebox share the 1st place with 55% for attacking side win from recent VCT's. But then, EU looks like playing hell of attacking style, in general.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/agents/576/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2
https://www.vlr.gg/event/agents/544/champions-tour-europe-stage-3-challengers-2
BTW, David has come a long way since his G2 departure and has overcome some life turning decisions to stay and entertain us in the game. I mean, I feel like he's been massively misunderstood be it in his MM or pro games. Hope, we can see some positive in him, given some strats are dictated by their coach and not per player decision etc. So, please take it easy before throwing something like, "..fucking baiter." - it's just not SPORT.
He is playing Viper B site.... One round he even clutched on ScreaM. I mean, VGIA already stomped TL 2-0 in a more important match earlier so it's all cool, no?
He's playing on B while TL taking A every rounds so he's left alone with the decision to save or to fight. Casters even said that on one round VGIA stacked 4 on A but lost leaving David alone again.
Bro, this kid doesn't know that as he's never even subbed to Hazed channel.
STFU you little disgrace.... Everything from you is just trolling and trolling - nothing useful. You wanna troll, then go troll with your mom, you piece of s....
Yes, you are. "hazed being old af" doesn't cut it for an argument, given you haven't even tried to compare his stats against other TSM members. And this kind of weak ass arguments comes from a TSM supporter which is you btw? Disgrace!
Here's Hazed against Leviathan avgs from last eight matches - winstreak:
HAZED: acs(204) adr(134) k(39) d(34) a(14) +/-(5)
LEVI: acs(197) adr(126) k(37) d(34) a(18) +/-(4)
https://i.imgur.com/GHuvleh.png
As you can see both players perform somewhat equally with Hazed slightly edging over Levi's numbers. Therefore, if you think that Leviathan is good than you should think Hazed is good too. PERIOD. No more shit ass comments on how he's old af, bro. You should support your team FFS.
Just learn about Fnatic something before you assume that either the low tab Boaster or Brits are the problem.
About 52-53% win for attack and 47-48% win for defence.
From EU's recent:
https://www.vlr.gg/event/agents/544/champions-tour-europe-stage-3-challengers-2
From NA's recent:
https://www.vlr.gg/event/agents/576/champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2
The agent TAB will lead you to those stats.
Actually, you should blame yourself, if commenting not prepared - also known as disinformation. I mean people around here expect you to know wtf you're talking about, right? If you'd made a mistake, then it's no shame to come out and say you'd f it up. Also WTF are you saying V1, Rise, DZ, XSET and Pioneers are nonames. Like for real bruhhh....
Danzo ну WTF?
I don't need translate for that as esh li arbaha ehidot be lashon ve hamesh ehidot be rusit - bagrut. BTW, you don't have to reply with hate speech.... I know that sometimes it could be felt as unfair but it's not going to make shit better.
what exactly or which comment # he said anything bad?
Agree on that.... I tried to bring up the discipline part and to point out that burn outs from overloading can not be predicted or forseen. Like the burn outs are the time of accumualted strain on your nervous system which doesn't go over the night. The discipline is there to protect players from such an ambigous phenomena, yet people still don't take it seriously. There were some prodigies amongst athlete like say Denis Rodman but many of us require strict discipline to perform well.... All I'm saying is that Matt needs to go to bed ffs
If anything, I'd be more concerned with a long-term discipline.... There has to be some consistency in that, otherwise the effects of that mental overload can come up at times when top performance is at the stake. I really hope that I am wrong here, though.
Maybe against a better teams than meowmeow but still impressive. KPR will flatten out in the long-run anyway eventually. Though Corey is such a good player.
You are correct and I will never argue on that but I don't see the reason of dragging this topic on as I've stated that in my above #7 reply. But many people on here are just 1Heads haters/bandwagoners grupies who get offended at anything when said against teams they support. PERIOD
Again, go and tell that to Hobbit if you even know who that is... or you can state Hobbit's achievments throughout his CS career here, so that I can point you where exactly you're wrong. BTW I'm a NAVI fan in cs.
Theroretically in VALORANT, you can play one map FOREVER. Yeah, much more than 44 rounds or even 100 rounds. That's why you look at kill per round RATIO and not total as total kills won't reflect anything useful apart maybe how consistent the player in question is. Though, it's is still nice to reach such kill number etc, but I don't get why some people 1Head react as if they are offended n stuff....
And that's why I stated at the end "total kills per match 49 kills by Nature stands the highest atm." However it's a >>>STUPID<<< statistic to consider - total kills, let alone something to be proud of as kill per round ratio of 1.11 - nothing impressive. Asuna's kill per round of 1.33 is better but I'm sure we can find higher.
Not broken if number of rounds is considered. Asuna played 36 rounds whereas Nature 44. Though in total kills per match 49 kills by Nature stands the highest atm.
Yeah, so bad that 3 out of top 5 teams on HLTV all speak Russian language - CIS. But whatever, nothing surprises me on here tbfh
Tell that to Hobbit ... but I'll make an assumption that you don't know shit about cs, if you allow yourself to say something like that
Respect to Levi but Sinatraa any day for me.
Broski, calling Russians as "stinking" is kinda not cool. They haven't said anything bad about Finest above.
Nah, more like Gambit doing their gambit things as usual.
Too early to match them against SEN but their last six wins were very impressive. Glad for both davidp and pipson.
Rise had been playing some h0t Valorant recently ngl.... But yeah, scores like today's 13-2(Split) from Faze or not so rececent TSM's 1-13(Bind) defeat should not even f-ing EXIST imho, because you don't need any pre-planned work in form of strats/comps or good comms to lose with such of a DIFF maps that not even your team's worst on avg, like to begin with. You don't even need players in such teams, let alone PROs on a salary+cont contracts etc. Just FF ffs <-------Very painful experience for fans... SADGE
Thats's a nice list of langs to your CV. Similar to you but I actually grew up in three different countries. Three fluent langs plus one almost but also learnig mandarin now lol.
Belgrade's Partizan vs Red Star derby.
Manchester's manU vs manC
Milan's inter vs ac
Madrid's real vs atletico
London's gunners vs spurs
Glasgow's blues vs celts
https://twitter.com/i/status/1419739426905890820
Fly like a bird but not a feking bird.... Omen found himself looking for some CLOUDS on Bind.
So what? Is that suddenly a CRIME to go negative.... or was that too dificuilt to proceed to the next rounds from there, winning 2-0 in bo3 untill they faced stronger teams on the way ofc?
Xeppa added some good impact vs LG(never said anything) but based on your logic, then where was Xeppa vs RISE? That game was not less important than vs LG. And no, those are not speculations. Those are arguments that excluding Xeta from being the scapegoat in your eyes. As I said if you want to look for issues in C9B, then look but don't point at a player who doesn't deserve such treatment. That's my point to you.
Again you are calling me IGNORANT for my attempts of drggaing you down off those delucional CLOUDS of poor judgment you're currently on. And shoving me TSM Drone's situation as an example has nothing to do with Xeta's accustion from you side. Good job ;)
So, then if you also convinced that the problem could be because of anyone, you should stop spreading bs about Xeta. I will only be happy with it. Also, saying that stats are not the whole thing doesn't make you smarter. Learn to use them when they're needed.
Yeah, come on let's look at STATS againts teams C9B had a walk in the park winning each and everyone 2-0(bo3) in STAGE 3. It's just that the 2 most important games so far they LOST, bruvvv. What are you looking in those walk in the park games where Xeta bottom fragged(in 3 out of 9 and 2nd bottom)? What is it there that you found? Did you also find there bottom fraging Xeppa in their 3 games and 2nd bottom out of 9. Does that mean Xeppa has to go because not good enough recently? Floppy left, Xeta needs to go and also Xeppa needs to go now according to your "tough" LOGIC, right? And after all you call me an ignorant, yeah? Just accept and move on... No need to shove me numbers that work against your claims. It's all good but we need a point to critique from otherwise it won't work, you know.
And ofc, thank you again for voicing out how PATHETICALLY you judge players, disregarding their not too far of recent performances.
C9B no doubt has issues as it could be seen either through stats or VODs(watched both losses live), but it is not because of Xeta and not due to Xeppa and even not because of floppy. There could be many takes on their issues but plz leave Xeta out of it, if you plan to use same arguments to diss him like that. They are not even closely valid.
Alright then, C9B failed to qualify at 3rd stage into the Main event from 1st challengers, losing to RISE 2-0 in bo3:
It has happened clearly in STAGE 3 and to me it looks like you haven't done enough research here as Xeta is a solid mid tab with a higher combat and damage than your main duelist(just the point - nothing bad on Xeppaa). He also managed to clutch a 1v1 saving you the round. So, how can you claim that he is bad in STAGE 3 as he clearly isn't? BTW if you look closely, whole C9B team performed awfuly and all should be included in the convo, not just poor Xeta.
That brought them into 2nd challengers qualifications where they failed to qualify to the Main event losing to LG 2-0 in bo3 AGAIN:
Xeta performed below his expectations but that is only ONE GAME, bro. C9B look awful in both games so maybe it's just not Xeta's fault but the whole team's problem - something we don't know about yet? Or maybe it was Xeppa's fault that they failed to beat RISE as he underperformed on main duelst for the team back then in the same STAGE 3? Floppy has gone already too....
In STAGE 2, C9B played way better Valorant reaching upper and lower finals beating NV etc + putting fights against top teams where Xeta had been their second best player. Now, they can't go past RISE and LG and all that is because of Xeta's ONE BAD GAME, right? Is that really your argument or am I not seeing something that is not there in the first place? Xeta is getting blamed for not qualifying where their main duelist was underfraging vs RISE but of course we will still find the proof for Xeta's inability to carry on a intitator like SOVA in his recent game with C9B, disregarding his hard work through STAGE 2.
PATHETIC, that's what it is.
Sorry but it's just everytime I hear someone is bad, not many even try to support their claim on here, if any at all - just air talks, as usual.
No, It didn't take much time as I already knew they were playing Astra and how Astra is superiour to other smokers from Zombs tweets etc. It was just a matter of checking their match history, although it might confuse if unprepared. Just wanted to let it hang on here for those who find my point interesting. Though, there is so much more to discuss on the topic that I'm affraid that the format of this forum is no suitable, at least in one piece.
Yeah, you're right, if we allow ourselves to use a term "predictability", we can see why Sick is playing Skye ... her flashes are more versatile. Also, the heal and the dog scout ... she basically OP. Haven is SEN's best map with 79% winrate in 72 matches so imagine if TenZ would play Kay0 instead of Jett like DZ did when they faced TSM:
That would be very interesting to watch how all those abilities will be used from SEN's point of view. DZ's retake of A site on Haven from the above link looked scary flawless. SEN capable to come up with some the of sickest plays together with their fragging ability, so maybe we will see them play Kay0 one day.
Actually, I think in such a game like Valorant new metas help with predictability, in general. There aren't endless ways to create strats or local plays with certain agents. Eventually, teams learn how to counteract momentums or pace, so addition of new agents and switching agent metas plays favour to such eSport title. Lots have been complaining about the big variety of agents in this game but even from my tiny example we can see that switching to Astra, helped SEN finding a new momentum wave on Haven map which they kept riding untill after the LAN games - lots of Havens actually.
Didn't meant too long but skip the dahed part if bored...
It's not as straightforward as we would think. There is a pattern from SEN vs BBG game that can be traced back and possibly explained, but it should be taken with a grain of salt.
In short, SEN lost to BBG on Haven due to predictability (excellent HW by BBG) and insufficient diff in SEN's individual mechanics(below is the break down). I'm very sure I can explain losing Ascent in a similar way, but I haven't looked into it yet. Therefore, we can somewhat say that if there's an inadequate stagnation in pace or in implementation of old strats, then it will lead to upsets, even among teams like SEN, because unfourtunately individual mechanics diff is already very little and won't help winning maps any longer (mayby some rounds only), let alone series. Neither SEN losing to BBG nor T1 winnig over BBG make T1 a top 1 as BBG have never been a top 1 in the first place. BBG only pulled off a well calculated and well-planned upset, for which they deserve full credit. However, in order to become a top 1, BBG needed to win others regularly over a long period of time, to accrue ranked points (which, in my opinion, also serve as a consistency indicator) which they didn't.
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A short break-down of SEN's Haven map from BBG and on for interested:
So, if we limit SEN's map pool to Haven (vs BBG), we can see that SEN was most likely using their old strats with Phoenix/Sova/Jett/Cypher and Omen. Also since it was not yet a crucial stage of quals, and SEN viewed it as a simple game because possibly in their eyes BBG did not appear to be a threat, they somewhat underestimated BBG's preparation to counter their comp(+strat thinking) which resulted in losing Haven.
By skipping the smaller teams directly to SEN vs. RISE on Haven which they won with the same comp of Phoenix/Sova/Jett/Cypher and Omen. However the game was close until 9-9 to 13-9. Presumably, RISE were prepared but couldn't finnish off as a new and yet inexperienced team maybe?
Following game vs Noble on Haven was a comf win 13-6(same comp as above) ---> vs ANDBOX on Haven which they LOST 15-13(again same comp as above) ---> vs T1 on Haven they LOST 13-9 (8-4 to T1 at the first half) again with the same comp ---> vs IMT on Haven they fianlly WON 14-12 BUT with a new comp of Phoenix/Sova/Jett/Cypher and Astra, leading us to believe that new strats had been introduced(no brainer as new agent).
Now, they haven't lost a single Haven map since then(except in their last match vs XSET) even at Reikavek, playing the same new comp Phoenix/Sova/Jett/Cypher and Astra. Only when they were back in NA after LAN, they had reverted back to their old comp of Phoenix/Sova/Jett/Cypher and Omen when they played EG and SQ, possibly with new strats but an old comp? It looks like, we may say that BBG won because SEN's comp+strats at the time were quite READABLE on top of BBG's already excellent form and homework. Hence, if pro teams, even those of SEN's calibre, do not cycle or develop new strats in a timely manner, they will be left at the whim of individual mechanics of their players. And if the diff in indiv mech is not greater, then it won't bring the expected results for teams, let alone that Valorant as a game is essentially a succession of likely events that don't always turn out in our favour(whiffing etc).
Edited: Inserted in Bold Italic - last paragraph.
So, there is not a better controller in NA except Zombs and Vanity because of their international performance experience and understanding of the game, right?
If that is true, then will you change your above opinion when 3 teams from NA will go to their international LAN in Berlin? There will be at least one team with a controller who would qualify and have intl LAN experience, even if we exclude SEN/V1 for a moment?
Lastly, how do you measure "understanding of the game" of Zombs and Vanity? Do you have any methods, principles or theories that could be tested, preferably objective or somewhat aceptable ofc?
Calling me a CLOWN is not sport, kid. So, let's skip the useless phrasing and get right to the point.
Apart from "best," "perfectly," and "nobody," I haven't heard anything from you that could be considered reliable or if you will objective. Can you actually SUPPORT that Zombs is perfect and the best while Andersin is a nobody as you claim?
Fair, how about PIONEERS(18), are they not as good as V1(7) or DZ(22) are not as good as FAZE(3)? Why not considering such teams as a threat? BTW, I said that all teams in top 25 are as competative which means having strong desire to compete and succeed, leading to upsets or outgrowth over their opponents over either short or long-term periods and vice versa. In other words, I think that we are not at the point in time when we can easily consider top 8 teams above the rest of top 25 except SEN which stands on it's own, be it in the world or NA. We just don't see ENOUGH consistent performance from them yet. However, we are slowly getting there, and I'll be more than happy to finally see some stability among them. Same applies to EU where we could observe enough fluctuation to be conserned aboout teams who are way below top 8.
Since you mentioned TIERs, could you state the way or a method you've applied to decide which team belongs to which tier and why?
Believe it or not, I had hoped to find some conversation on Andersin without comparing him to Zombs, simply picturing a scenario in which there were no Zombs cause he left or whatever(Is it possible that Andersin could make SEN better?) Some people mentioned alternatives to Andersin without bringing Zombs into the conversation, which was more than alright. But some, like you, have decided to push their own opinion without providing evidence to support their claims, despite the fact that Zomb's numbers aren't on level with other smokers.
In all honestly, it is hard to add anything because I believe you, like others on this site, have some insecurities about your favourite players or a team. But yeah, you have somewhat expressed your own opinion and that's totally fine I guess. It's just I wanted to see some support to your claims.
Alright, if you drag Zombs into the convo from the get go.... Do you think that there are no players currently in NA that can replace Zombs in SEN, given they have enough skill to help SEN maintaining their success or even make them perform better, just because they haven't proven their quality at a global LAN(except V1 players ofc)?
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