English wiki is different :

"The story follows two loners, the pragmatic Hachiman Hikigaya and beautiful Yukino Yukinoshita, who despite their varying personalities and ideals, offer help and advice to others as part of their school's Service Club, assisted by the cheerful and friendly Yui Yuigahama. It largely depicts various social situations faced by teens in a high school setting and the psychology driving their interactions. "

Okay it's way more better (Even tho beautiful girl are rarely an oucast without a good reason for that)

French wikipedia lied to me ? T.T

"Hikigaya, a teenager who has never had any friends and has a relatively negative view of other high school students, is not very social. To change his worldview, his teacher forces him to join the Volunteer Club run by a model student named Yukinoshita. With her frankness and sarcastic rhetoric, the latter will be able to stand up to Hikigaya without succeeding in changing his attitude. Despite their divergent opinions, they will try together to meet the expectations of their classmates who will not hesitate to ask them for help with various problems."

Congrats you named the first anime of thisthread that doesnt have a french wiki page, (Even tho it have a page in a lot of other language wish is weird), isnt the looser x winner trope ?

Funny enough, I made this thread because someone on twitter say it's anime is peak, I look at the synopsis and it was AGAIN this trope T.T

I really liked this one probably in my top 5, it's way more smart than it seems, and have a good philosophical idea about "What if fake delusion and imagination could make our life better"

Re life ? Wot ? The synopsis dont go really far, but i'm a little bit intriged

Looking at the synopsis arent we exactly in the looser school x winner school ?

Comedy[1]
Harem[2]
Supernatural[1]

T.T

Isnt the love triangle (Or the love square) a little bit a problem ?

Is that possible to have something that isnt "Looser male x most popular girl in school" ?
Where are the outcast x outcast story ?

I know I don't watch a lot of anime, but every time I look for a romance anime to watch with friends it's always "looser x winner", wish is kinda boring and DESTROY my Suspension of disbelief very very fast. (And doesn't learn to see the beauty into the outsider and the nobody)

It's really close to be significant even with this small sample size. If you consider Seed 1 versus seed 2 is 50%-50%, then the pvalue is 12% (5% or less would have meant it's significant), if you consider a seed 1 should beat in 61% of case (or more) a seed 2 then, it becomes significant.

But I agree we need a bigger sample, but that's not because we don't have enough data that we can't start thinking about other format for 12 team. Do you think this format is the best ?

Be carefull to not loose your arm and your teamate because a big bear would eat it

I think the huge difference there is that Split and Bind are 2 map where you dont have to fight for mid, Bind doesnt have a mid, and taking space on mid on Split as a defense isnt that usefull it's better to defend individually the 2 lanes thats go to the 2 sites.

Anyway, my point was just it was a bad exemple to pick the precise 2 map that are play without a sentinel

(And about keeping flank on Lotus without Senitnel EDG 2024 did that really well)

I look at every tournament with 12 team and I wanting to look at some datas.
So for each event with 12 team I took the 4 team that dodged groups and count the time where they loose the first game, and here is what I saw :
(Please tell me if i've done any mistake)
22 M1 2W 2L
22 M2 2W 2L
23 M2 3W 1L
24 M2 1W 3L
25 M2 0W 4L

Global datas 8W... 12L so it SEEMS that dodging group isnt that good, could probably be random, but I really do hate that format.

Do you think we could change the format of "Master 12" ? What would you want to see ?

"A flex variation of split/bind"
Spliut and Bind are known for paying no sentinels and 2 ctrl

GenG by far

https://valorantesports.com/en-GB/news/valorant-emea-ascension-and-game-changers-lans-2025 i found it

"They are already guaranteed to be top8 champ points, so they will go back to ascension in the worst case."
Are you sure a top 8 in point is enough to go to Ascention ? Isnt only the team that go to playoff ?
And if Yes, do you have a source ?

I agree with everything beside maybe NS, champs sounds doable, the team is good

"the more I feel like Brazilian talent has an expiration date."
Bro discover that Brazilian are also mortal T.T

But what is the problem if it's working

what is the probleme with their playstyle ?

Bro literally offer Ascent to G2 lol

I think maybe beside the 2 PH team, all 4 of them could win Paris

thanks !

Thats the historical team in LoL Also, wish is very big in Brasil ^^

LVG ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRL1RtzfeSk I've made a full video about that subject

What are your metrics ? I just check on twitter and Loud if x4 Fura follower

The team we select have to be partner, need to bring viewer even if they are last, wish is the case for KOI but not for GX, to know what king of team we should keep you should answer the question "What org I what in T1 even if they are the worst T1 team"

I think Furia isnt in same situation than KOI, since KOI is leader in Spain, and Furia isnt in Brasil (It's probably LOUD)

Yes :
-Gx +Spirit (We need a CIS team and GX is the EMEA team that have the least their place)

Debatable :
-Lev +9z (I rather have EXL, since we have no representant of LAN)
-GE +Revenant (I'm disapointed in GE sacrificing SA)
-AG +lynn vision
-JDG + TOP
-tyloo +rare atom
(China is really hard to predict depends on financial of big structure like IG and RNG)

Absolutely no WTF :
-EG +Complexity (-EG is
-C9 +Flyquest (C9 is the structure Riot trust the most in America, About FQ I just hope they are hire in APAC and represent Oceania)
-Fut +Eternal Fire (FUT play with TR team, is always decent, even if play weird, no reason to kick them)
-KOI +Faze (KOI have probably the biggest fanbase in Spain)
-secret +naos (Secret is also a team Riot trust in)
-DFM +Riddle (Same as TS and KOI)

Some that you should have mention :
-Furia +2G (2G have shown they are willing to invest way more than Furia, their Aca team is better than Furia, and they are a really great GC team while Furia doesnt have)
-EG + SR (SR have a T2 team and GC team, while EG dont)
-RRQ +BOOM (Not sure it will happen since thats not the coice they made)
-VIT +M8 (I will change my opinion in the future, but I'm so mad of so many wasted potential in VIt this year)
-100T +TSM (This one is a bold one, and unpopular one, it depend on information we dont have, 100T seems they did lack of money in LoL so they could be in crisis, while TSM wish is a really popular team could be back)
-APAC is nearly perfect, but need a team for FQ, maybe we also need a VN team, (Same for MENA)

What is the concept of vlr cup ? I might be interested, I have experience casting in French, but you know my English level is not THAT good

In ascention last year it was impossible to not see him, he was so far above any other player in the competition, I can see a bright future for him, if he continues to progress he could have his chance to become the goat

Reduce the slice of every team, 12 is good, we just need to give a better path for T2 teams

Stop jinxing them T.T

FNC was absolutely loss during kickoff, they even play 0 reveal on Split, they fire coach and everything went better, put your player in good condition for make them perf and they will perf

Maybe we should just create sissy team with positivity.

I'm gonna buy programmer socks for our Valorant team to test that

I'm not calling Chron flex, I just think the concept is not good to understand how role do work in val

Last time it was on the mapool anything else than 2I-2C was baaad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZVPgXe3_Vw

"Yall just a bunch of sissies fr"
Yes but what the point of this in this debate ?

3 Agent played, plus test on 2 agent (1 game), Smoker-Reveal player, but yeah thats probably on of the closest "flex" we have, nobody will master 12 agent in 4 different roles, that would be suboptimal (but well PRX can do anything, thats PRX), PRX put more emphasis on agent than on role, wish may be an interesting choice

Nobody is a flex player ewe

EWC not being a LAN explain why EMEA did good, we didn't play with 200 ping

Here is a little some respect moment in VLRUL we had abou AG : https://www.youtube.com/live/XmBxKfrOny0?t=4165s ^-^

Wait better with the change, and GenG make it fun to watch, not best map, but still better than Icebox, and probably Breeze, i enjoy the map better a little bit more everytime, and I'm not even an aimplayer so i'm disadvantaged on it. Will improve with time

"huh what a year"
"Captain it's only July"

Less team mean it's way harder to qual, in fact in every master you've got 48 team participating. I dont get how "It's harder to qual to this event" turn out into "then this event is lower importance"

New rosters, new coaches, 0 synergy
They had 2 months at least to prep

"shallow map pool,"
Subjective

"new meta (lack of understanding),"
Same for EWC that is post Tejo nerf ? Tejo nerf is way more close than EWC than the release of the new meta and the Masters 1

"level of play very low"
I could agree with that

No ? The tournament they won, fill maximum 2 out of the 5 criterias

Is that really possible to lip-read a tonal language ?

Also : "he said every match felt like rolling the dice" ALL HAIL THE COIN ! ONLY THE COIN NOW WHO IS GONNA WIN

No worry, your mind go back when you talk about something else, but on that specific subject... Saying that EWC > Bangkok... While every point the OP did bring, I don't see how you could defend that. Would you like to bring counter arguments to that ?