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Really? Can you please show me a match Flor has played against any team currently in challengers?
Maybe you have confused the quality of play in organized t2 valorant with Mr.Funhaver Invitationals, where some t2 pros may occasionally play on a pug team.
Back in the day it was hard to draw the line but Riot basically solved this for us. Its challengers. You can also include any team that compete very closely with those teams, but they're hard to find because full challengers rosters don't usually play matches outside of the league except for maybe during the open quals for challengers.
https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/e81c9498-78b7-45fc-8c7d-e16d2bf30752
Yeah but flor is getting diffed by randoms in these matches.
Unless you're telling me Cactus#3266 is also a franchising level talent.
The full SR roster isn't even a top 5 premier team bro.
https://tracker.gg/valorant/premier/standings?region=NA_US_EAST&page=1
Ironically its the opposite of sexism or transphobia or whatever cuz they'd be legit randoms who nobody would talk about if it wasn't for gc.
Never seen anybody glazed so hard for farming imm2 players
S should be (no order): Kingg, Johnqt, Valyn, Forsaken (is he even an igl?)
nah nothing ever tops this
Lmao i guess this is what you gotta resort to when you know you're wrong.
I wonder why it wasn't called Master's Sao Paolo or Champs Sao Paulo???? Maybe Siigma777 can enlighten me why it's the only one not like that in the history of the game
Yo lemme make it clear if it wasn't already (most of the world already understands this): It doesn't count.
Goat - Ascent
Good - Haven, Split
Ok - Fracture, Sunset, Breeze, Pearl
Bad - Bind, Icebox
Horrific Crime against Humanity - Lotus
Team USA
Boostio - IGL/Senti
Oxy - Duelist
S0m - Controller
N4rrate - Flex
Init is probably hardest to choose. If C0m gets out of this slump he's in I would go with him, but otherwise probably Verno
They smack everybody, imagine an Oxy/N4rrate double duelist comp jesus christ...
It was great to watch I agree, the Loud vs NRG fracture was probably the best map ever.
They can downvote it but they can't hide the truth we all know. No qualifiers + single elim + completely undeveloped meta (mf's were playing sova on lotus). Will never count as a major.
Only thing missing was a single ounce of competitive integrity, had everything else tho.
Greatly reduces fnatic's chances of winning all 3 events this year
4+2+2+3+5 = 16
Texture is no. 1 rn and there's no debate. Aspas is top 3-4. Lev basically aspas'd there way to shanghai
Team Korea: Literally Gen.G
I don't know if you can call them "Underrated" but if they clean up a few things I would not be surprised if DRX ended up as Pacific #1.
you know what ur right lemme get prime TSM_Myth on my team
Idk if I can confidently put him a full tier above the other guys there. His raze is Sublime but there's (minor) questions about his jett, oping, and he currently has a limited agent pool (i know he's played sova and neon and stuff in the past but he would have to prove it again). Oxy for example is a better jett, close to him as a raze, is an excellent awper, and a really good yoru too. Jawgemo might be a better raze, is a good jett, but is also crazy on omen and even made deadlock work.
pretty good team ngl (but if qck was there kangkang gets farmed LOL)
bro that's a different game and 6 years ago aint no way LMAO. Also he was trying his ass off in pro city that was the whole point of them and especially as by the end he was trying to not get embarrassed.
bro literally every single duelist at $2 (Icy/Zeldris/Mada/Fit1nho/Koalanoob/Corey/Artzin/Will/Qck/Governor) is better than Flor.
Flor was eliminated by Mocking's pug team in challenger quals (Mocking played Reyna).
Mocking btw (still my goat tho) https://clips.twitch.tv/FineDrabPuppySoBayed-EaxpFaF1OlMlmVcT
life is there at $3
Bro tarik was the worst player in a 10 man server with GC players and ranked players 😭😭😭
Also Lakia is in a tier full of world champs, multi-master winners, and superstars bro acting like I disrespected him, its just that the other geng players have something that stand out.
Munchkin - best defensive reads/rotates in the world currently, also a top tier shooter (especially with the guardian)
Texture - clearly the best duelist in the world currently (only other in the convo is aspas who is basically the only reason lev made a LAN)
Meteor - the best sheriff in the world currently, clearly the best senti in the world currently, and best yoru in the world currently
Karon - Already one of the best smokes players ever, 1 more deep run and he will be in the all-time convo with Pancada, Marved, and Mako
Edit: this comment was meant to be a reply, ignore
i fw the Foxy9 pick
The recent evidence in favor of Boostio being world class:
Tokyo: Takes EG to Grand finals of Masters Tokyo, bodying every team in their way except for Fnatic (extremely close match vs them in upper finals that coulda gone either way).
Champs: Wins Champs, beating a white-hot Loud team and maybe the best PRX we ever saw in Bo5's.
Kickoff: Transforms 100T, but ultimately loses to Leviathan in a very close match that coulda gone either way(C0m at this point is still playing at a very high level), then runs into SEN (eventual madrid winners)
Split 1: 100T is now the best they've ever been and dominates Americas league, getting 1st.
Shanghai: Demolishes Fut, Loses close match to GenG (eventual tournament winner), beats the tournament favorite in PRX, loses to Heretics (Tournament finalist, had a decent chance to win if they close out bind).
The evidence you provided against all that:
Played really bad in 1 match on TH's best map.
100t missed Lans for years then he joins and they almost immediately win americas and make a deep run at shanghai (only lost to the finalists, also coulda beat heretics if they didnt throw bind). He was also the igl on one of/the greatest team ever, where he dropped 35 on fut (a team of turkish aimers) and beat LOUD and PRX (aced them) in bo5's.
nerfing fns like that is crazy lmao bro's gonna be a spike rush player
I still think oxy, cloud, n4rrate, flyuh, and skuba is the best possible combo but I used that for the last two so imma make a new one
Less (Viper/Senti) - $5 - It's Less. He's a matchup problem.
Valyn (IGL/Controller) - $3 - Can frag hard and plays all the non-viper smokes (omen, brim, harbor, astra). Calling is solid and reliable.
Mwzera (Duelist) - $3 - Baby Aspas finally gets his time to shine on a real team. Coulda also went with Keiko or Marteen here.
Derrek (Init) - $2 - Lots of experience and good aim, he will pull his weight forsure.
Curry (flex) - $2 - Can put him on anything and he will pull his weight.
R1 : we clear EZ 2-0
R2 : Relatively EZ 2-0, second map goes 13-11
R3 : EZ 2-0 13-6 13-9
R4 : 2-1 we drop a map in OT but other two maps are relatively EZ
R5 : 2-0 Less and Curry topfrag
R6 : Extremely close 1-2 but we lose. Valyn goes nuclear to try to keep us alive but it isnt enough. Season ends here.
Might edit later for bonus
Yo what happened on map 3?
New version with almost every player and justice for Enzo! (still not picking him tho).
Things to keep in mind:
Rules
Don't go above $15 (obviously)
5 players max
Assume no Language Barriers, they synergize normally, and an average, competent coach.
$5 Players {World Class}
Aspas/Texture/Less/Alfajer/JohnQT/Boostio/Saadhak/Leo/Mako/Munchkin/Meteor/Karon
$4 Players {Elite}
Cned/Lakia/N4rrate/Riens/Oxy/BenjyFishy/Forsaken/Jingg/Something/Keznit/Jawgemo/S0m/FNS/Sayf/Cryo/Zekken/Scream/Bang/Tenz/Chronicle/Derke/Boo/Woot/Davai/Shao/Leaf/Ethan/Sacy
$3 Players {Good T1 Players, The Very Best T2 Players}
BeYN/Tuyz/Monyet/Reduxx/Valyn/xccurate/Patitek/Stax/Rb/Zest/Autumn/Keiko/Nats/Mindfreak/Asuna/MrFalin/Atakaptan/Qraxs/KangKang/Yetujey/Suygetsu/Ange1/Ardiss/Verno/Zander/Nismo/Mwzera/Tex/Cloud/Caunzin/Jammpi/Foxy9/Izu/Marteen/Zyppan/Eeiu/Zellsis/Life/Trexx/Crashies/Victor/qw1/miniboo/JonahP/Kingg
$2 Players {Solid T1 Players, Really Good T2 Players}
Magnum/Trent/Sh1n/Ban/Mistic/Icy/Nature/Zeldris/Mazino/Enzo/Mada/Soulcas/Berlin/Skuba/Xeppa/Vanity/Derrek/Runi/Shyy/Moose/Havoc/Fit1nho/Tomaszy/Koalanoob/Flyuh/Carpe/Curry/V1c/Brawk/Stellar/Aproto/Will/Jakee/Corey/Net/Governor/Artzin/Purp0/Bcj/XXIF/Wippie/Qck/Rossy/Dapr
$1 Players {T2 Players and other Solid Prospects}
Okeanos/Screwface/Ange/Hazed/Drone/Mary/Trick/Scarn/Dark3st/Oderus/Mimi/Katsumi/Florescent/Sinatraa/Zexrow/Tdawgg/Lear/Nahsie/Seven/Aleksandar/Exalt/Subroza/Noia/Mel/Geeza/Paincakes/Shahzam/Dicey/CGRS/Sarah/
$0.5 Players {lmao}
Khunaa/Peppapiglunchbox/Zt0l/Tarik/Dasnerth/TheRacoone/Shanks/Mocking/Pablo/MexicanSova/IItzTimmy/Aceu/Poppin/Prod/A2Guapo/Woohoojin/Ethos/AverageJonas/Pokimane/
Free Players
Wardell - Condition: No Scoped Weapons
Dephh - Dephh
Xms - Xms
Newzera - Newzera
VCT Season Challenge: How far can you go?
Must win 2/3 in reg season to play in R4. R4-10 is single elim because I don't feel like making it more
complicated. It's also not necessarily easiest to hardest
R1 - Reg Season vs '24 Split 1 NRG
R2 - Reg Season vs Current KRU
R3 - Reg Season vs Shanghai T1
R4 - Qual Match vs Kickoff/Madrid KC
R5 - Group Stage vs Tokyo EDG
R6 - Group Stage vs '23 Champs Loud
R7 - Playoff vs Tokyo NRG
R8 - Playoff vs '23 Champs DRX
R9 - Playoff vs Madrid GENG
R10 - GF vs '23 Champs PRX
BONUS
Your season is over and a new season is upon us! You choose a team identity and go through it again! *IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT YOU DID IT NORMALLY FIRST
SEN: "Clout Cash" - You now get $16 budget but you must keep 3 players from original roster.
Additionally, for R1-4 you have to replace a player with Shroud (has to be the the same player for all matches).
EG: "The System" - Your team is coached by Potter and Zikz, but you only get $12 budget. Must Keep 1 player
from original roster.
Fnatic: "B0tster" - Your IGL or Controller gets a -60% performance debuff, the others get 5% buff.
Liquid: "Chokequid" - You bypass rounds 1-4 and autoqual (thanks to FNC), but every game you think you win
you have to flip a coin and if its tails it means you choked and lost.
C9: "Playoff Chokers + brokeboys" - Take your most expensive player and replace him with one from a tier below, the org couldn't afford
him anymore. Your team gets a 15% performance buff for reg season and group stage matches and a -5% debuff for all others.
Has to be PRX at Shanghai. They were favorites by a mile coming into the tourney. PRX fans should hold them accountable!
how sure?
Zachary "101 Kills in a Grand Final" Patrone clears that hype job
Everyone saying round 4 is the one that changed it because it broke TH mental and etc but I gotta disagree. Its not that TH started losing after round 4, its that Geng started winning after round 6. Their whole attitude was different. They started moving different.
Round 7 : Gun round for both. Texture first blood 2 secs in. Flawless round with Munchkin spray transfer.
They are now looking across stage and talking that ish. Lakia of all people is hyped up and spitting that fire
https://clips.twitch.tv/DifficultTiredWrenKappaClaus-IVMSt4yi3YIAaHD2
Round 4 was important forsure but Round 6 onwards you can literally visibly see (and hear) them get their confidence back, and shut out the rest of the series. Both big rounds tho certainly.
Round 6 on Lotus
Th wins bonus round and goes up 3-0
Round 4 : Geng Thrifties them to 3-1
Round 5: Both have guns now, TH burns Fade and Raze ult and still gets smacked. 3-2
Round 6: TH is on eco and Meteor puts them in a blender. 3-3
https://clips.twitch.tv/CorrectLightClipsmomSoBayed-jIBRRljhIc9IG6kb
Everything changed in that moment
Listen to their voices - They're screaming now (in english too)
Look at their body language - They become more and more animated
That round the dogs came out 🔥🔥🔥
That round they became champs 🏆🏆🏆
TH only wins 4 more rounds in the rest of the series
When he's against texture and not chinese players, or icy (consensus worst duelist in americas):
-18 (worst in lobby) 🔥🔥🔥🔥
172 ACS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
There's two options here.
I believe it's #2
loud being former world champions being defeated by fnc in lock in grand final is a wish?
LMAO. Not only was it a different roster, they replaced their two best performers for rookies.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022
If after Tokyo Fnatic lost Leo and Alfa and some random team like vitality or something beat them would you be saying that they beat the champs?
this kind of bullshit was not said by any kind of riot employee nor did anna donlon say it. showing off teams? tf is that?
https://valorantesports.com/news/meet-the-teams-of-vct-lock-in/en-us
From Riot's official website for valorant Esports, a long article dedicated to introducing and showing off every team and player, and their storylines.
in terms competitive integrity, riot has always cared about it alot
LOL. Single Elim will never have an ounce of competitive integrity. People (rightfully) clowned on the playoff qual format for shanghai for this reason (Navi deserved that spot and we all know it). Now imagine an entire tourney like that. KC looked promising based off lock-in, which tells you everything you need to know.
I think out of all current teams PRX probably has the highest ceiling. If champs '23 prx showed up they wash every team at this tourney but they decided to just shit the bed lol.
dont forget less and alfajer
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