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https://www.vlr.gg/393690/imagine-if-we-had-leo
His calling is awful btw. listen to the most recent comms video 5:30 -> 6:11
maybe fraudnatic will read it during the long plane ride home
They do not have the makings of champions
It will please you to know that Ange1 clears Fraudnatic. He got that trophy in blood
From their inception to the dawn of franchising their biggest achievement was making an 0-5 record vs Zombs look respectable. Then we get to franchising.
Supremely Overrated. Where do we even start? Lets do it in order. (tldr: mickey mouse and visa issue merchants)
Barely winning a preseason, showcase tourney with a mickey mouse format against LOUD who swapped their two best champs performers for rookies, via a historic choke.
After they won that worthless temu trophy (the kind the breaks on planes), they dominate a farmers league (name the 2nd best EMEA team of '23 and tell us what they accomplished, it's not gonna sound good) and now the hype train is outta control. "They're astralis" "Unbeatable". Liquid does beat them in the end, which is a bad look, but that was a fluke and we all know it.
After that they get to Tokyo where, unlike the book series, they encounter a series of fortunate events! Lets examine all 3 teams they beat at Tokyo
NRG
With an anti-prime ardiss. First map is actually dead even first half, but then FNC picks it up next half to get a solid 13-9. Fair enough, solid map. After that Keith puts up a LEGENDARY 0.21 Rating performance including plays such as walling off your own team during an site exec. For comparison, during the infamous DRX 13-1 game where Boaster had 0 kills until the final round, he had a 0.44 Rating.
PRX
With a PUBG Streamer taking place of the Pacific MVP because of visa issues. "Even with something, they wouldn't have beat them at tokyo anyways". Based off what? Not the evidence. The evidence strongly suggests otherwise. PRX with something outperformed Fnatic at the next 3 straight events. Next tourney they made Champs finals (probably strongest form they were ever in) beating LOUD and even EG in upper finals. At Madrid FNC were missing cuz they were worse than the teams that PRX beat. At Shanghai PRX were the favorites going into it, beat EDG and lost an extremely close series vs 100t, and FNC were winless (lost to GEN.G, who PRX beat domestically, and got EMBARRASED by fut, who PRX would beat). This means that PRX with something were better for than FNC for basically a year after they were allowed to play with him.
EG
Conveniently also facing visa issues! Also for their star player, the one who, upon his addition, turned around their season and would later win Champs MVP. After spending (wasting) 2 weeks of tournament prep with a sub, Demon1 returns last minute. Even with this big nerf, upper finals basically comes down to a smokes spam. Furthermore, across every map played, only 2 were decisive, Fracture for EG, and Lotus for Fnatic. Every other map comes down to two rounds, the closest possible result.
After that, we all know the story at champs, so i'm not gonna cover that, and instead deal with the two most common excuses/cope.
"Mickey Mouse? actually single elim (and no qualifier and literally pre-season) means they won the hardest tourney!"
Maybe, but, further still, a random agent select tourney would be by far the hardest event ever hosted, doesn't change that winning it would be a cosmetic achievement, worthless in comparison to events with real formats and qualifiers (ie: designed to select for the best team).
"Only lost because of Loud"
No, they lost because they were the 4th best team and they ran into the 3rd best team, who smoked them.
Boaster's 2 win conditions
Boaster's calling is fucking AWFUL are you kidding me???????
https://youtu.be/uxPMgoMk0ms?si=HN_oE4EAGxnPXdp9 listen to 5:30 ->6:11
Clueless, Indecisive, Lost.
No wonder they just got their ass handed to them. His calling is terrible they've always relied on mech-checking opponents. Works against Icy, not the guys who went to battle with GEN.G
CANT WIN WITHOUT SINGLE ELIM OR VISA ISSUES
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAvHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
SEN 7-1 FRAUDNATIC AT MAJORS
I guess i'll never know the answer lol. Also not gonna rank SEN 24' for obvious reasons. Anyways here's my list
1. Loud 2022 10/10
Really hard to choose between 1 and 2, but it's hard to pick against a team that has a GOAT/GOAT Candidate at every role.
Less - Undisputed GOAT of Senti
Aspas - Undisputed GOAT of Duelist
Sacy - GOAT Candidate for Init
Pancada - GOAT Candidate for Controller
Saadhak - GOAT Candidate for IGL
2. EG 2023 9.99/10
Once they got to Champs form (ie: no visa issues) we saw something special that will take a LONG time to be replicated, if ever. A true team, with exceptional synergy. Lightning in a bottle. Even when they were down they looked in control of every round. And if you didn't ban fracture you were already down a map. By the time you read this last sentence, C0m has already lurked behind you and won the round.
3. Optic 2022 9.25/10
Not much to say, they weren't 'invincible' like some of the other teams here (Shanks, XSET, FPX, XERXIA, and others beat them). But they were consistently ELITE. The Streets shall not forget Prime Yay + Iceman. Their virtually even record with the #1 team is a testament of their achievements.
4. GEN.G 2024 9/10
The elephant in the room is getting grouped at champs, which will be a stain on their legacy. But lets be fair, that's pretty much widely acknowledged as the the toughest group of all time (min top 3). They lost a close finals to a white hot SEN in Madrid, then proved themselves at Shanghai. And that TH finals was not as close as the score appears. Every TH player was negative. The only map where they looked worse was ascent (not clearing corners consistently). Even icebox which they lost, they looked better the whole map, seriously go back and watch it, they lost to very small, unfortunate things - Texture legging an op shot that shoulda killed, Munchkin mistiming a flash by 0.1 seconds, etc. Anyways, while they fell short in groups, had it gone the other way, every team would be living in fear right now, and that says it all.
5. FNC 2023 7.5/10
Supremely Overrated. Where do we even start? Lets do it in order. (tldr: mickey mouse and visa issue merchants)
Barely winning a preseason, showcase tourney with a mickey mouse format against LOUD who swapped their two best champs performers for rookies, via a historic choke.
After they won that worthless temu trophy (the kind the breaks on planes), they dominate a farmers league (name the 2nd best EMEA team of '23 and tell us what they accomplished, it's not gonna sound good) and now the hype train is outta control. "They're astralis" "Unbeatable". Liquid does beat them in the end, which is a bad look, but that was a fluke and we all know it.
After that they get to Tokyo where, unlike the book series, they encounter a series of fortunate events! Lets examine all 3 teams they beat at Tokyo
NRG
With an anti-prime ardiss. First map is actually dead even first half, but then FNC picks it up next half to get a solid 13-9. Fair enough, solid map. After that Keith puts up a LEGENDARY 0.21 Rating performance including plays such as walling off your own team during an site exec. For comparison, during the infamous DRX 13-1 game where Boaster had 0 kills until the final round, he had a 0.44 Rating.
PRX
With a PUBG Streamer taking place of the Pacific MVP because of visa issues. "Even with something, they wouldn't have beat them at tokyo anyways". Based off what? Not the evidence. The evidence strongly suggests otherwise. PRX with something outperformed Fnatic at the next 3 straight events. Next tourney they made Champs finals (probably strongest form they were ever in) beating LOUD and even EG in upper finals. At Madrid FNC were missing cuz they were worse than the teams that PRX beat. At Shanghai PRX were the favorites going into it, beat EDG and lost an extremely close series vs 100t, and FNC were winless (lost to GEN.G, who PRX beat domestically, and got EMBARRASED by fut, who PRX would beat). This means that PRX with something were better for than FNC for basically a year after they were allowed to play with him.
EG
Conveniently also facing visa issues! Also for their star player, the one who, upon his addition, turned around their season and would later win Champs MVP. After spending (wasting) 2 weeks of tournament prep with a sub, Demon1 returns last minute. Even with this big nerf, upper finals basically comes down to a smokes spam. Furthermore, across every map played, only 2 were decisive, Fracture for EG, and Lotus for Fnatic. Every other map comes down to two rounds, the closest possible result.
After that, we all know the story at champs, so i'm not gonna cover that, and instead deal with the two most common excuses/cope.
"Mickey Mouse? actually single elim (and no qualifier and literally pre-season) means they won the hardest tourney!"
Maybe, but, further still, a random agent select tourney would be by far the hardest event ever hosted, doesn't change that winning it would be a cosmetic achievement, worthless in comparison to events with real formats and qualifiers (ie: designed to select for the best team).
"Only lost because of Loud"
No, they lost because they were the 4th best team and they ran into the 3rd best team, who smoked them.
THEY CALLED ME A MADMAN
"BRO MECHANICS DON'T MATTER BRO, WE HAVE A SYSTEM BRO WHO CARES IF OTHER TEAM HAVE BETTER MECHANICS OUR SYSTEM BLAH BLAH BLAH MUH SYSTEM"
Just got their year ended by losing a 4v5
Keep the core of Valyn, Leaf, JonahP
-Icy
-Trent
+Mada
+Brawk
lowkey ur right ange1 aim isn't that terrible but he still ints and dies first peeking all the time so it gives that impression
its generally one of the worst amongst franchise pros 😂. I mean its better than Redgar and Ange1 but that's a low bar
his aim is actually good
I need you to elaborate on this, we've seen him miss an entire mag on a guy sova ulting earlier this tourney. And that is not new
All the people who said firepower doesnt matter. G2 literally getting 4v5'd rn 😂😂😂
10/10 Because its clear you are a good Sova, dat 100% ascent win rate don't lie
Mine: https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/nytrizu%23court/overview
DO NOT ask me about deadlock
well this guy stated he's been stuck for a year, so telling him to play the worst role to rank up with is bad advice imo.
Obviously if he just 'trained his skills' it would be beneficial and help him get out, but that's not really different from just saying 'get better'.
don't listen to him, see #22 for why. Here's your best options
If you're truly better than High Plat / Low DIA, especially mechanically : Lock Iso or Clove
If you're not : take the time to get good at Yoru -> ez high asc/low immortal
this is the worst advice ever initiator is the worst role for ranking up, especially in low elo (there is nothing to setup because people run around like headless chickens, if they even comm what they're doing)
glad you like it, just make sure to not fall in the trap of playing aim trainers more than the game itself lol.
Comparison time!
Aspas today:
2-0 Win / 1.37 Rating / +12
Notes: Off-day, missing alot of awp shots
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Chronicle today:
0-2 Loss / 0.86 Rating / -3
Notes: Got hard gapped by Riens on identical agents
Imagine falling for the Sentinelmain and laedlaer propoganda.
No real person ever thought that for a second
ik i just think its hilarious he misses the prowler and the next kill but hits that one LMAO
C0m has already flanked behind them as you typed this
What's funny about it is that he whiffed on the prowler before, then whiffed the next shot after that too. Bro's bullets are just attracted to derke head or something lol
1 off-day on the awp > 3 years of being one of the most feared awpers in the game
Least Braindead Sentinelmain take
how's it been going so far?
sounds like a standard immortal lobby
We'll dial in more next time trust. Expecting a masterclass
I think that DRX has what it takes to beat every single team at the tourney, no exceptions.
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