It’s so funny that after watching the tenz falloff in 2021, I was so absolutely confident that yay wouldn’t fall off in 2022, and after watching his fall off in 2023 I was so absolutely confident that Aspas would never fall off

On the other hand I was absolutely confident that demon1 would fall off and I was proven right

Spikezin is a flex duelist though, if you make him play more passive initiators as well, your not really getting the most out of him
And Robbie is a worse initiator for sure than vora but he’s igl so you can’t replace him

Never really thought rrq winning was unexpected
I’ve been high on them ever since they picked up jemkin, honestly surprised it took them so long to be contenders

I would also like to see him off initiator potentially, but I think the one role he prolly won’t play well on is duelist

EG as flash init maybe? Could replace brawk as well if nrg struggle and brawk doesn’t do well. Could go to Leviatan if they struggle and com struggles too, could go to loud to replace cauanzin if they want to continue English speaking roster.

He’s the biggest baiter in tier1 (not an insult, he will admit it)
He’s a player that makes plays when you give him space, not a player who makes space

He’s such an underrated player, why don’t people bring him up when talking about t2 talent? Initiator isn’t a role Americas is strong at either, I hope he joins a tier 1 team next year. EG (with Derrek as sentinel maybe?) would be a cool move. C9 to replace Xeppaa or Mitch might be good as well.

I have a hot take that less actually has fell off and gotten worse and it’s not just the system, but the system definitely doesn’t help
We will see when he leaves vit

Saw a video of Aspas constantly laughing and smiling on loud and now he’s always so sad and serious 😭
Lost his whimsy

He should have never left LOUD, less and Aspas would be what people say about derke and Alfajer now

I hope Aspas doesn’t give a shit but after seeing what happened to yay the pressure has to be immense
It’s not just hate from fans but also pressure from himself, he likely expects to always play well himself

Yes, and and also how much systems make players
Outside of eg 23, only jawg has looked good. Outside of t1, only meteor and buzz have looked good.

Fnc with Leo, derke, Chron, and Alfa struggled more than when they replaced Leo with hiro. Sentinels with tenz, Zekken, grand finals mvp sacy, and champs mvp pancada struggled.

EG 23 and t1 25 rosters are some good examples of this, on the flip side fnatic 2024 (with Leo) and sen 2023 are some examples too.

I agree people overestimate his impact, but it doesn’t justify invalid criticism/hate either. The people that glaze him that much usually are mibr fans/Brazilian fans, while people hating on him are nearly everyone else. I understand the point ur making is that the same way popular players get unjustified credit, they also get unjustified hate but I still don’t think it’s acceptable.
I personally never felt like Aspas carried mibr (with Verno) and CERTAINLY not loud (despite that being a real narrative at points during 22/23)

Thanks to years of y0y, I actually feel hella bad for Aspas on the other hand 😂

People still shat on him when mibr was doing good, saying he was baiting or statspas, and verno and artzin (for calling) also got a lot of credit. The only time people were saying he was carrying was on lev (a bit unjustified) and mibr pre verno, where he kinda was hard carrying

It’s absolutely hilarious how much shit Alfajer got in stage 1
People were calling for him to be dropped every time fnc lost, Toronto happened and he’s now the best player in the world. He struggled first 2 matches at Toronto too
If he was on a shit team, he never would have gotten that opportunity to redeem himself

I understand that, but it’s still really sad to see it happen to Aspas too (as a fan of yay)

It’s the same shit that happens with yay and tenz too
People have genuine hatred over fucking professional video game players it’s insane
I swear the worst thing you can do in this game is be actually good, it’s all the players one step below GOAT level that get all the love because they are “underrated”

It should fall on him and everyone else on mibr
But people are shitting on him specifically
If the team is struggling so badly and everyone is taking solo fights, Aspas is just stuck on eco weapons or rotating or with no util half the time, peeking into a stack
Not exactly the recipe for a good performance

Yet another player like Ethan who because he is smart and understands the micro of the game or has good game sense they can call and gets a rude awakening

Appreciate our non fragging IGLs in big 2025

Was lev really dysfunctional? Com has great supportive utility, Mazino is a genuinely incredible flex player when he has a good team, king’s calling is mid but his fragging was great last year too. Tex struggled but was able to adapt to sentinel role well too.
I agree Aspas is falling off a bit but genuinely if you put any other player here and I think there struggling too.

It’s just annoying when you try to explain how team matters and people bring up how chronicle, derke, or Alfajer never fell off when they have always historically been in good teams. Aspas form now is similar to chrons form in 2022 for an example.

It’s fucking insane how every single time he plays people just spam statspas, call him a horrible player, etc etc
There’s pro players who are shit people (or have been accused of it) in real life that get no where near that amount of hate

If it wasn’t dead it definitely is now
They were always quiet even when they were good, you can tell the comms are almost silent
Wouldn’t be surprised if Verno just gets benched midway through split of his own accord

Someone definitely about to say derke never fell off, but derke looked worse than Aspas in stage 1 because vit was worse than mibr. Now mibr is definitely worse than vit and derke is outperforming Aspas. It’s a team game

Not even the biggest fan but it’s so sad how much hate he’s getting
I swear it’s always the least problematic people like yay, Aspas, tenz that get so much hate when they underperform

If mibr were playing well and Aspas was shitting the bed it’s understandable but he’s only underperforming since mibr have been (they’ve been getting shit on like 6 matches in a row)

Holy fucking misinformation, yay and tenz at their absolute peak we’re making 20-25k a month. The avg salary is way less than that, prolly 10-15k per month MAX

I don’t know if I’d go that far but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s better than kk but never had an edg level team around him

Smart if so, the increased clout from this about to drive all his stream numbers up

But yeah he’s prolly just getting paid minimum

Makes sense because 100t are very proactive generally in defense, and having double scans makes that easy to get mind round info, so they don’t really need a real sentinel

He getting that bread for sure, I doubt g2 is paying him all that much

His roles not that easy to be consistent in either, your either getting super easy trades if ur team is playing well or unfavorable duels if ur entry is getting fucked

Let’s give him some credit he’s been playing really well recently, I only see people hating on him or calling him inconsistent but he’s consistently their second best player

-m0ggle

Bro comeback has played like 3 tier 1 games wtf

On sentinelmains soul, FNC WILL get grouped at this champs

You are NOT that guy pal… on everyone’s soul except mine WE will all watch EG win champs

“FoXy9…zest…no foxy9…nah zest got it….nah we need foxy….its a playoff match let’s get zest…well fuck we lost let’s kick zest…well fuck we lost again let’s boot foxy….oh look beyn….or Estrella????” - T0rmi probably

Even prime fnc didn’t make Madrid. Even GENG and PRX didn’t make kickoff despite how internationally good and regionally dominant these teams are.

I think EDG are overreacting with their constant roster moves. They are so used to being absolutely untouchable in China that since they began losing they are panicking trying to find the right roster to dominate again, but in reality, china just got better as region.

None of the best teams in the world are ever flawless regionally. It’s natural to struggle at times or lose. Instead of overreacting I think edg should just stick with their roster and improve together. Even if they struggle regionally and don’t make champs constantly switching their roster is not helping. It takes time for a new roster to gel together.

Tier 1 team because as long as YOU play well ur staying in tier1
And yea I will be farming eco frags and exit frags and saving in every clutch

I think he just eventually lost interest in the game after the faze downfall. He’s also one of the players who was truly carried by chamber being an aimer sentinel main who relied heavily on his mechanics.

They ain’t ready for the GX champs run brotha let them know

I never use yellow. I see red the easiest but I use purple because I see the head outline the easiest on purple if it makes sense. Just stick with one for a while (yellow in ur case) and eventually you will prefer it probably

Forcing him to play a different style of play isn’t good for g2 or for his career

Polar opposite styles of play, Jawgemo is a hard entry that will run in and die or take space and hold an angle on one part of the map the entire round until his tp runs out
You want primmie to rotate to where the action is or trade frag ideally

I’ll always say the Ardis 1v3 on ascent because the room for error was quite literally zero. He had to hit every shot exactly when he hit it and move in the exact way he did.

I wish we could have gotten an optic/loud vs fpx at champs. They prolly would have lost but there was a chance that if they didn’t run into DRX (who had them figured out) they coulda made top 3.

FPX. The war kind of fucked them, but they made 6 LANS in a row from 2022-2023. They also consecutively placed 1st, 4th, and 3-4th in a row before falling off. They beat some prettty good teams in 2022 along the way such as xset, fnc, prx, optic, and drx. Their consistency was nearly optic/loud level but they don’t get the same hype.