Haven’t u learned from nrg that better on paper doesn’t always translate in game? Zellsis playing for sen brought immediate success and it’s clear he fits the team well, it would be stupid for Sen to make ANY roster changes until after champs

Nah zellsis is fine, no need to be so reactionary, his flexibility is important and it also very clear that he helps with midrounding and emotional support

Why do u say that? His teammates set him up with utility but it is no more so than any other duelist
He takes space and entries just like other duelists

How is he playing in an egocentric way?

He is very good but obviously people are waiting for playoffs to see how kru fares
I’m sure if kru makes Shanghai there will be a lot of hype around heat

His igling looked similar to Ethan actually, solid on defense and clueless on attack

I think demon1 is also just in a slump rn, not really his fault
He hasn’t been preforming in (or playing) ranked either, his fiancé’s situation and being rusty are prolly weighing on him

I genuinely hope they take a week or two off
They probably were grinding nonstop after losing to lev and EG and were even more burnt out against loud

Chet and Ethan rn are the problems
This is obviously restating at many people have said

Chet has an extremely rigid system that is fucking up team comps, did this last year as well
Ethan has terrible attack side calling, certain very noticeable tells leading to constantly attacking stacks, panicked midrounding while time is low

NRG don’t deserve playoffs over 100t and G2 and certainly not Shanghai
Hopefully they do a lot of work before split 2

I hope so na need narrate back we are struggling

I get ur point, but liquid made internationals last year, more than the vast majority of teams globally could do, so they certainly weren’t tier 2
I don’t think victor is a top 5 raze internationally, but he’s certainly good enough to play it
Clearly NRG’s problem at the moment is calling and team comps
I’m curious which raze players u think are better than victor globally

Additionally plays raze
But yeah this mf is actually the truth 1.34 rating on raze off of only tier1 matches is insane

His whole team shit the bed against blg the first time but he played well the second time
His raze looked good vs DRX and liquid iirc

Curious why u think that
His raze certainly looked good last year internationally

I think despite what everyone says this optic trio still has potential
Victor and crashies have crazy synergy, victor is incredible at taking space and fns believes that crashies is the closest to a perfect player he’s played with
Shame to see what is likely the end of their pro career being squandered

The igl thing is a massive ego move, very disappointing
The only team that has been able to have some random cracked player igl is prx and they are exceptions to a lot of rules
Chet has a very rigid and unforgiving system for his team and their roles that only really works for the original optic team

I think Chet needs to stop trying to get cracked duelists for this nrg roster
Put victor on perma duelist and pick up a good flex player and igl imo

Yeah because lev are way better than nrg in macro and guys, but regardless I don’t think player quality is an issue. If u walk into every single stack u can on attack 20 seconds left in the round u will lose no matter whose on ur team

They got sonned by lev but I don’t think they got donned by EG, their ascent t side was one of the worst things I’ve ever seen

I somewhat agree with you, I think victor can play other characters but he doesn’t have the mechanical skill to play as well as forsaken

Realistically sentinels are very easy to learn but Vic has somewhat average aim but has great satchels and pathing on raze

I don’t think their getting guy doffed much, their calling on attack side is atrocious and only their hero plays are saving them

Forsaken is an incredible player, so not really that bad
Vic’s a very good duelist imo, his raze is top tier and his Jett is decent
His kj is ok as well

Why is it not it?

It’s not bad but he needs to play raze on sunset

Amazing support util this map and on ascent but bro cannot calls a t side round to save his life

They win defense off micro set plays and individual skill

Literally won at least 3 rounds by himself

I mean I can’t speak for other na fans but personally I was rooting for apac the whole way thru in Madrid

I see eu shitting on apac mode

Holy throwback thread now y’all can see why na and eu are so toxic to each
For context this was after na was dominated by eu during 021 champs

Go outside bro this is all over a fucking video game

Let’s see how 100t look like against nrg

Crazy the amount of disrespect he gets despite being a part of the reason why y’all won ur first trophy in 3 years

Do not scapegoat sacy one player does not make u fall off this hard
Bros is literally playing the bitch roles/positions to make sure his teammates get kills, u can tell every time he gets to play selfishly he pops off

It’s ok bro split 2 still there just don’t hop off the bandwagon

Hope he mandhandles me next

Sen needed 2-0s to qualify right

Bro stop speaking on third person about urself
We all know who u are

Can they not qualify if they win out?
Beside they were underperforming, this is more of how they should be looking like rather than an over performance

If 3 different players from 3 different teams (2 of which were 0-3) have life games against you, u are doing smth wrong

Hello I am a team secret merchant 🗿

Mentality is definitely something that sets tier 1 and tier 2 apart, as many tier 2 players play as a secondary job or as a hobby whereas tier 1 pros often fully commit to valorant as a career

Less got mad potential Icl

Most likely yay just threw out some random number as a joke and genghsta legit took him serious

The reason why genghsta is a liar is because there is no way yay would spend TEN THOUSAND dollars to get rid of genghsta, on a tier 2 team that yay never intended to play permanently on
10k is a sum of money that even a millionaire isn’t going to throw around

Genghsta’s ego got in the way of him telling a reasonable lie, he should have said 500 dollars and we would have believed in

Valyn and Jonahp, especially valyn are very good why would u drop them

It just makes it longggg as fuck if u have 5-6 match group stage

Incoming qck and less drop 50 each and cauanzin does a 1v4 clutch

Best not be claiming “Americas” if Brazil win another masters or champ

They had close games and then destroyed everyone in lcq

What did exalt and egoist say

Is the coach ur talking about fayde?

Who are 10 people

Other than steel crazyguy and genghsta