ShahZaM haters salivating right now

ngl I like doug and balla they are way too overhated smh

Nah the Union is going crazy rn I gotta be honest

bro stfu your team won EMEA then proceeded to lose to both top 4 NA teams lmao.

Nah we just gotta clone dephh 4 times and then EMEA stands no chance

bro why do some emea fans care so much about players having European origins lol

flag and flair bro stfu

Apeks, and M80/TGRD could but who knows right now

lol once again with this fnatic cope, yeah fnatic is good but it's just one team, and besides there's a world where EG wins against fnatic in the first match and has the advantage in the B05. You pipe down lmao

What they did is more important than the match though, and this match isn't really that important, it's just a seeding game.

Let's be real though, NA tier 3 is still better than a lot of regions' tier 2

"You are owned by EU in tier 1" lol, which region had two top 4 teams at Tokyo again?

I guess 2 NA teams didn't make top 4 at tokyo, I guess ascension is over and the Union won already. Fucking dumbass bandwagon fnatic fans can't help but talk shit even after they won lol.

How? It's the first map of their first match in Brazil, like how does this prove anything?

It's been one map like chill lol

Bonk

tbf d4v41 has always been extremely underrated and played insane, but aside from a few series something has been their best player or at least close to it. Don't get me wrong jinggg has shown he can be just as good, but them placing top 3 has less to do with something and more to do with the core. The prx core is insane, they're all really good.

something
Jinggg
tenz
ZmjjKK
Jawgemo
forsakeN
s0m
cned

bro what something was literally the best player in Pacific based on stats: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1191/champions-tour-2023-pacific-league

At this point, Pancada has already been playing and learning the sentinel role, it doesn't make much sense to change that now, especially when your alternate smokes player is one of the best controllers of the past year.

This must feel so good, dunking on those clown NA fans. You get em Forty5!

Why does NA even need a flag? It's mostly just the US with some Canadian players.

Not having a single prx player on here is a crime, especially forsaken, like he might be the best flex in the world. Only maybe chronicle or zekken could top him in terms of agents/roles played while still putting up numbers.

Nah we just need EG w/ more experience

Damn, you got the receipts, too bad idc.

true but also prx win something

Damn they really in your head rent free lmao. Your team just won and this is what you're thinking about lol.

Nah not me man, I'm prx fan and they got plenty of talent lol, nt though.

Bruh this felt like the biggest let down of all time, we had some of the best storylines:
PRX placing top 3 w/ a sub
EG's unlikely run
EDG putting china in the mix

and yet fnatic won, such an L bro

Nah because if NA made a superteam then emea fans would have to resort back to their trophy count to feel good about themselves for once.

Bro who cares tbh fnatic is just gonna win and it's gonna be boring af,

That being said (based on Toyko teams only) it's
FNATIC
PRX
EG
NRG
TL
LOUD
EDG
DRX
T1
FUT
NAVI
ASE

And he has a W personality too, he's so fun.

Yeah true they played insane, but EG kinda underperformed it felt like.

When has TSM ever been good?

I hate to break it to you, but BBL is not going to be good, but hey y'all have FUT though.

That's just my point though that we aren't in the optic era anymore, and things have shifted some, that's really it tbh lol.

First of all, I'm talking about the present because I literally said "Historically EMEA has always been better" but as of now, NA just feels deeper. C9 barely missed on Masters and Sen was doing roster changes the whole of the season. There's also a ton of t1 talent in t2 right now because of franchising, more so than EMEA because their talent is more spread out since they have 10 slots to NAs 5. Like can you really say with confidence that NAVI or FUT would beat C9 or Sen (w/ the current 5)? Or even C9 vs liquid, because C9 was literally going crazy in Americas.

That proves my point though, because you have to factor in the other teams to make that case. If you're just going off of the region that wins is the best, it's always going to be judging a region off of one team, and thus actual one-team regions like MY/SG becomes the best region just by winning. You're the one who can't use common sense lmao.

So if PRX win champions are MY/SG the best region? Or like if they won 2 or 3 tournaments, however many wins you need. This logic is so flawed it's not even funny.

The problem with that argument is that there's a world where a region could place 2, 3, 4 but if they don't win they aren't the best region. It doesn't make sense for evaluating how good teams from a given region are.

we're not in those years anymore though

Tbh major or not they won an international trophy, it's still a trophy at the end of the day.

Not if we're trying to collectively rate how good a region is as a whole it's not. A region has more than just one team and NA is just a deeper region than EMEA. Like fair enough an EMEA team won but the other 3 teams really didn't get close at all., whereas both NA teams were decently close despite having to play more games.

Historically EMEA has always been better, but as of now even with fnatic winning NA is better and it's not close. Both NA teams were in groups and made top 4 and the EMEA 1 seed won just 1 game.

L result but they deserved it tbh

Nah it's just cuz fnatic is a boring team

"Can't do shit with NA talent."

Damn, I guess the other four players just don't exist. We got ardiis and jawgemo 1v5-ing teams lol.

Easily the best masters thus far, but not for those reasons lol.

The only reasons they picked CGRS over Benkai are that they practiced with CGRS more recently and also role issues. Benkai is still by far the better player, but I guess they felt they could get CGRS up to speed faster. I don't fully get it myself, but hey he did do pretty well all things considered.

This is just not even close to true Benkai has always been an underrated player and has some of the best mechanics for an IGL