Masters ain't very close to champs lol. Especially not 1st masters. First of all champs is an official event and the esports system for val is designed in a way to obtain points to qualify for champs. Also 16 team event with a good format unlike ewc.

2nd the winner gets 1 million dollars which is like triple the amount of money 2nd master winner gets and 4 times the amount of money 1st master winner gets.
And champs is more prestigious as well.

Idk why people try to force the narrative that winning masters is same as winning champs. I am not talking about you but I have seen val fans do so.

I mean league is just cooked competition wise. Like only teams that could even contend against them were Al and t1 lol. It's crazy how bad the competition is in league. And I saw lck fans celebrate beating lpl a dying region lol

Just knives I think the most consistent and best used to be demon1.

I have been saying this. Edg coaching staff are fraud. They don't understand what's actually wrong with the team. Their meta reads are so poor. And they are just trying to mirror Simon with new player. But that's not gonna work in current meta.

If it's in form then there are multiple. I would say if it's in form then it's edg, prx, geng, fpx, t1, fnc, vitality. All these teams are insane mechanically.
If it's rn then it's prx, geng and fnc.

Now hoping edg can figure out what's wrong with them and with enough prac can make a comeback. They should make a comeback unless their coaching staff are fraud.

Lpl fans don't hold a candle to lck fans lol. Also it's funny cause most lck fans are just bandwagoners west fans and sea koreaboos. Lpl Chinese fans are crazier but they are at least limited within Chinese social media.

Bro don't throw stones at other when your house is made of glass.

Do you guys not see how well geng sets him up tho. Geng team work is insane. You guys only see duelist pop off but don't see the team support. Like watch that haven game. Texture is obviously insane but the team support from geng is insane too.

Grand finals is bo5

Nah judging regions based on ewc is crazy. Champs will determine everything.

Plat chat probably said it from their viewing experience. Meteor was geng best player in Shanghai but texture was better in finals. So texture actually got the mvp.

Yeah just overall I think izu deserved it but riot gives mvp to like the best player from the winning tea in finals which is why kk got it in champs, meteor in Bangkok.

Yes he was Bangkok mvp but he actually didn't get Shanghai mvp. Texture was awarded the Shanghai mvp title or finals mvp basically.

I mean it was like Bangkok. Meteor was overall the best player that event but texture was a bit better in finals. Likewise in Bangkok izu was the best player from t1 overall but meteor was the best in finals. Tbh stax was equally insane too in finals.

Hmm looks like they just didn't show it for the main page of the event.

Ig yeah. But somehow liquipedia doesn't mention anything about mvp. But wiki says texture was finals mvp. Idk if there was actually an official mvp title before champs tho for masters. Just checked there was one for lock in

Nope

There was actually no official mvp for Shanghai. Even then I think texture would get it according to the mvp formula in valorant.

Th might have actually choked this map with that anti eco round.

Threw anti eco round lol. Geng making a comeback now cause of that. Why did they try facing like that against an eco?

Th is still not back to their prime form ngl. The team as a whole still doesn't look to be in the best form. I think by champs this team will reach newer height. I actually think this team will be top 3 at least in champs. Individually at least woot and reins look to be in their prime form.

I mean for val it's before stage 2 too where team prepare for making champs. Still not same as football but schedule for ewc has been ass too. Like for cn their stage 2 games were 3 days before ewc.

That's obvious. People who think otherwise are just trolling and ragebaiting.

It's the highest viewership for the whole event achieved in a particular game. For example peak viewership is from the fnc v prx game today.

This club world cup is basically same as ewc but official right?

First time seeing a boycott be successful lol.

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/esports-world-cup-2025-valorant
Didn't expect this "masters event" viewership to be this low. Like not even reaching apac and Americas peak viewership is crazy. Considering the game was between fnc and prx didn't expect the viewership to be this low.

It will reach decent enough numbers for finals maybe.

Yes. Cause it will be actually b2b for official val event.

I think people are forgetting what the biggest problem with ewc has been. The schedule. Like how are people not bringing up the thing about cn stage 2 games being 3 days before ewc in a different map pool? Cn teams literally had like no proper prac. Also apac has stage 2 games 2 days after ewc.

At least double elimination makes it a lot more fair than single elimination format.

How is the format better than kickoff? And weren't we comparing ewc to masters 1. Where did kickoff come from. If you are trying to compare ewc qualifiers to kickoff then that's even more crazy. Ewc qualifiers were so ass.

Where is there a lower bracket?

But it's not an official event for this year lol. Also idk how you can says it's equal to masters with that shit schedule and format. Like china had their stage 2 games 3 days before ewc in different map pool lol. Also bo1 and single elimination playoffs format alone make it a level lower than masters.

Doesn't matter. I think fnc will win champs ngl. Champs will solidify them as the goats.

It was bo3 not a bo5. Can't say what would have happened ngl in a bo5. But again ewc so shit bruh. Already single elimination playoffs and not even bo5 for semis.

Don't worry it's just ewc even if geng loses. Geng are a top contender for champs. If geng wins champs nothing else will matter.

This series not even a bo5. I won't call ewc a Mickey mouse event but compared to masters it might as well be one.

Toronto>>ewc. People are just delusional lol.

Can you provide davai stats for every international event prx has played in?

What is this recency bias? How is forsaken suddenly top 5 player oat? Also don't tell me you guys are considering this ewc to rank players lol. Like did you guys suddenly forget how mid forsaken was internationally before Toronto? Also don't give excuse of flex. He wasn't even a proper flex before 2023. Davai was more flex than him before franchising. And saying he has been the best flex every year is crazy when chronicle exists. And what about 2023 prx. Prx were clearly the 3rd best team that year making deep runs in both Tokyo and champs yet where was forsaken in those events? He wasn't even top 3 player in prx in 2023 internationally.

I actually don't understand how forsaken is so overrated and how davai is so underrated. Like davai has been 90% of the time at least top 2 player for prx in every international event they played in. And I know you guys rate forsaken very highly for his flexing. But davai literally flexes so much for his team too. He is able to play so many agents and to a very high level that it's crazy. Obviously forsaken have been playing more roles tho since 2024 especially.

Also let's wait for champs for before deciding who is the best. Champs will change the top players list a lot this time I am pretty sure.

In 2023 he wasn't even top 2 player in prx internationally tbh. This year so far he has clearly been prx best player. And Toronto has been his best international event till date I am pretty sure.

Get that league shit out of valo. Val esports is so much better currently than league.

It's so hard to predict champs. Can become very unpredictable. need to wait for stage 2 to be over at least before making predictions.

That's actually funny.

You mean fb?

No? Especially cn teams didn't have same amount of practice at all. Cn teams were playing stage 2 games in diff map pool like 3 days before ewc. Only EMEA had similar amount of time for both events. Other regions had lot more time for Toronto.

I rate space making plus first kill engagement and acs quite high for duelist so kk was easily the best in Tokyo at least for me. Demon 1 was decent but he lacked in comparison to pure duelists like derke, kk or aspas.

Tbh at Tokyo the best duelist was kk easily. Derke was still the 2nd best duelist in Tokyo but he had Leo, Alfa and chronicle too.

I know vlr is very reactionary but come on are we actually really judging teams and regions based on this event? Like let stage 2 happen first. Map pool is completely different now and champs points matter a lot. I am seeing people put nrg or bbl in top 10 teams itw based on this event lol.
They literally played like 2 bo3 in old map pool. And some teams like g2 or xlg didn't even have their complete roster while some team like edg is literally playing their 2nd ever actual game with a new player. And there are other teams with insane potential like t1, tl still there.

There is a very high chance that teams like nrg, kc won't make champs at all. Other teams are already prepping for stage 2 and teams like nrg and kc with low champs points are in ewc showing so much of their games lol. I won't be surprised if they get demolished in their first few games in stage 2.

2024 master Madrid best player were zekken, tenz and munchkin/meteor
Also I would include spring too for Toronto.