Can you provide davai stats for every international event prx has played in?

What is this recency bias? How is forsaken suddenly top 5 player oat? Also don't tell me you guys are considering this ewc to rank players lol. Like did you guys suddenly forget how mid forsaken was internationally before Toronto? Also don't give excuse of flex. He wasn't even a proper flex before 2023. Davai was more flex than him before franchising. And saying he has been the best flex every year is crazy when chronicle exists. And what about 2023 prx. Prx were clearly the 3rd best team that year making deep runs in both Tokyo and champs yet where was forsaken in those events? He wasn't even top 3 player in prx in 2023 internationally.

I actually don't understand how forsaken is so overrated and how davai is so underrated. Like davai has been 90% of the time at least top 2 player for prx in every international event they played in. And I know you guys rate forsaken very highly for his flexing. But davai literally flexes so much for his team too. He is able to play so many agents and to a very high level that it's crazy. Obviously forsaken have been playing more roles tho since 2024 especially.

Also let's wait for champs for before deciding who is the best. Champs will change the top players list a lot this time I am pretty sure.

In 2023 he wasn't even top 2 player in prx internationally tbh. This year so far he has clearly been prx best player. And Toronto has been his best international event till date I am pretty sure.

Get that league shit out of valo. Val esports is so much better currently than league.

It's so hard to predict champs. Can become very unpredictable. need to wait for stage 2 to be over at least before making predictions.

That's actually funny.

You mean fb?

No? Especially cn teams didn't have same amount of practice at all. Cn teams were playing stage 2 games in diff map pool like 3 days before ewc. Only EMEA had similar amount of time for both events. Other regions had lot more time for Toronto.

I rate space making plus first kill engagement and acs quite high for duelist so kk was easily the best in Tokyo at least for me. Demon 1 was decent but he lacked in comparison to pure duelists like derke, kk or aspas.

Tbh at Tokyo the best duelist was kk easily. Derke was still the 2nd best duelist in Tokyo but he had Leo, Alfa and chronicle too.

I know vlr is very reactionary but come on are we actually really judging teams and regions based on this event? Like let stage 2 happen first. Map pool is completely different now and champs points matter a lot. I am seeing people put nrg or bbl in top 10 teams itw based on this event lol.
They literally played like 2 bo3 in old map pool. And some teams like g2 or xlg didn't even have their complete roster while some team like edg is literally playing their 2nd ever actual game with a new player. And there are other teams with insane potential like t1, tl still there.

There is a very high chance that teams like nrg, kc won't make champs at all. Other teams are already prepping for stage 2 and teams like nrg and kc with low champs points are in ewc showing so much of their games lol. I won't be surprised if they get demolished in their first few games in stage 2.

2024 master Madrid best player were zekken, tenz and munchkin/meteor
Also I would include spring too for Toronto.

It was one bo1 and a bo3 lol. You are making it seem like they beat all 3 teams in a bo3.

I don't think it matters much. They are showing signs of their form returning back. That's already good enough. Now if th can return to their peak form for champs it will be the best.

Doesn't matter if they lose. It's good sign that they are making a comeback. It will very good if they can make a complete return till champs. Champs will be everything.

No way you are judging both those regions based on ewc. Especially china literally got fucked by the schedule alone.

Let's see what happens in stage 2. I wouldn't judge any team based on ewc. Map pool is diff. I think some ewc teams will be at disadvantage in stage 2. Like nrg and bbl have shown a lot of vods already and other teams at home are prepping purely for stage 2.

Lock in still was at least an official event. Also where is the thing about lock in not being clowned coming from? Lock in just cause of it's single elimination format has been called a mickey mouse a lot of times.

Also lock in was tbh a lot more fair compared to ewc. The scheduling for ewc make it a lot worse.

Bro is judging teams based on ewc lol.

Also forgot about vitality. That roster is insane too. If the new igl thing works with the team they can easily make a run too.

I actually forgot about them. If the synergy is good, tl is a champs contender team too.

Has potential to be the best event oat. Like every region looks to be really competitive coming to champs.

Th also slowly making a comeback.
Edg also has potential with enough prac. I think they will be back too in stage 2 and champs.
G2 will be back for sure too with leaf.
T1 roster is insane too. They can make a comeback easily.
Fpx can become 2024 fpx again. Can upset a lot of teams.

Especially cn, apac and EMEA as region look a lot improved compared to last year champ

Not judging any region from ewc tho. Still gonna wait for stage 2. Anything can happen still.

Talking a about champs. Are you actually dumb? Can't even read lol.

Yeah ewc lul. Let's see how he performs in champs when the stakes are the biggest ever. And teams will be a lot better too at that point.

Allat for apac to not even make top 4 in champs. Let's chill a bit. You guys are low-key jinxing apac a lot. Champs will be the biggest test for apac.

Finally a good take from you.

Finally not a ragebait or a troll post from you. And I hate to say it but I actually agree. The crowd does feel forced.

Why is this guy ragebaiting like this lol? First it was prx now it's geng.

Yep again the same thing. Yeah might be cause of his team but he just wasn't relevant in the scene.

I understand that duelist performance relies heavily on team's performance. Like aspas is the major example of that. But texture just wasn't that relevant in the scene to rank him above buzz.

But he really wasn't relevant in the scene. He didn't make any run in international. That's the problem. Also it's proven how much geng or solo and hsk have helped in making him the player he is today. He is insane but I don't think outside geng he would be as good.

Best kr duelist since 2021 lol. He wasn't relevant till 2024. Buzz hate is so crazy. Too much recency bias.

Lol do you not understand how attack side and defense side work in val? Talking about the fnc game in this ewc.

Valyn over Ethan is a sacrifice of firepower? Lol one of the funniest joke I heard in recent times.

And best thing is he is only 22. He has actually the best chance to become the undeniable goat of val if he doesn't fall off in like next few years. He has great team around him too.

Cs fans just can't accept that val is becoming more and more popular and that it's not just big in one region alone like Cs is in eu. Also I don't think there was any disrespect shown to Cs here.

I mean we saw what teams normally choose to do during ewc qualifiers. I don't think even bottom tier teams like zeta or dfm would miss out on champs qualifiers. Or decent teams like kru will send out their worse roster. Champs is officially the biggest event of the year for valorant and it has insane prestige too.

Also how did 3rd or 4th team in stage 1 get advantage for ewc qualifiers? More like they were at disadvantage with having shown most of their stuff and needing to play for ewc qualifiers just a couple of week before Toronto. You can't tell me that tl were at advantage for ewc qualifiers lol.

I see lot of Cs fans in vlr mentioning how good and important ewc is by comparing it with majors. They say ewc in val is as prestigious as masters cause it's similar to how major is in cs with format and all.

But let me ask a question. Would an event similar to major not be considered mickey mouse event in valorant after all these years of val?
Imagine if champs 2025 has bo1 in swiss stage. And playoffs is single elimination format with bo3 in grand finals. At least ewc has a bo5 grand finals. I don't think anyone would not call such type of champs a mickey mouse if it happened in val.

Cs fans again, valo isn't similar to Cs at all neither as game nor as esports.

Lol single elimination will never be greater than double elimination for val at least. Single elimination increases the fluke runs more ngl. Matchups luck matter a lot in single elimination. Like Toronto grand finals would be wolves vs prx lol if not for double elimination.

Also why does it matter if pros knew about ewc schedule? It's still ass. Also will pros try for champs qualification more or this ewc? Many teams literally didn't even participate or send their best roster for ewc qualifiers. Idt that would ever happen to masters or champs. That alone says a lot.

Idk why Cs fans always have to bring Cs comparison in Val. Valorant is nothing like Cs bruh as esports as well as game. An event like major would be considered mickey mouse in val.

Biggest problem with it has been schedule tbh. Like cn had to play their stage 2 games 3 to 5 days before this event. That's a very unfair situation. And then apac games start 2 days after ewc. And another problem was the qualifiers ngl.

Also one of the major reason people even consider lock in as mickey is cause of it's single elimination playoffs but you didn't even mention it for this event.

Unless this event becomes part of the official eSports cycle for valorant and the schedule and format is improved it's not gonna be as prestigious as any masters.

Lol nice joke actually.

With how the bracket is the chances are already halved lol. It's like the matchups are scripted. And there is no lower bracket. So you have a bad day you are instantly out.

What about the audio and ui literally spoiling the kills and who won the round even before the duel or round is over? And replays and observing have been ass too majority of the times. These have been the most annoying thing about this event ngl. Makes it hard to watch sometime.

How much will ewc results effect your top players list or who your goat is? Personally it's been a fun event but I don't think it has any effect on players legacy at least not like masters or champs. I just don't consider it on the same level of official international val events like masters or champs in terms of prestige and legacy. So for example for me the goat would still be chronicle even if he bombed out from ewc and aspas with his team had made it here and won it all. Doesn't effect my top players list either.

Just state your opinion.

Another example. Would forsaken be top 3 player oat if prx wins this event? He would have 2 event wins so.

Their coaching has always been kinda mid ngl. Idk why they are still using the same old comp they used to play months ago. It becomes so ez to counter that. Their meta read is really poor too as you said.

Main problem with edg is time rn. They still need more time and prac with hfmi. Also they need to play diff comps now and not same old ass standard comps. It's not really a individual problem ngl. Yeah hfmi still doesn't look as comfortable but it can be fixed with time. The roster has potential. But give it some more time instead of blaming individuals or calling them washed. This roster with hfmi has only played like 3 real games so far.

No lol. And blg ain't winning against Al either. Why kick your main shot caller and jgl lol? Xun was so important for them.

4/8

It's 500k not million.

Blg need some more consistent Fraggers. If whzy isn't shooting the team looks shit. Rushia is really good. And imagine if they got happywei in place of knight. Also levius so mid. They have overall weak firepower compared to other good cn teams.