Tbh so far Toronto has been really underwhelming so this map alone makes this already the best bo3.

Yeah but he was very inconsistent.

Well this major probably has insane Chinese viewership cause of tyloo and Lynn vision performance.

How is derke not top 5? Derke First pro ever to reach 2k kills in international isn't just a simple achievement. I mean I don't see how nats and meteor are above him. Or even Leo tbh. Aspas and chronicle above him for sure tho.
Also forsaken bit too high.

Shameless heretics fan trying to ragebait. -2/8 cause this ragebait is so ass.

I have heard they have like 6 investors who are all billionaires. And also they are the org with 2nd most representation in ewc only after falcons. They created a lot of eSports teams for ewc. Their name is AG global or agg or al. You might have heard of them in some other eSports. So they are crazy rich.

Yeah rigged draws. Both cn teams should be in playoffs. Unfair to china.

Your favorite team did lose 0-2 to a Chinese team tbh.

Worse. Only one asian team has been good from whole Asia and it's mongolz a Mongolian team.

Great potential for champs for china.

Made stage 3 in cs2 Austin major and one team is secured for Toronto playoffs too. Great day for the cn fps scene.
Man cn teams and players were so fun in major.

Ummmmmm.

Yeah most people in vlr don't have enough ball knowledge to know that.

Yeah most people in vlr don't have enough ball knowledge to know that.

And all were 2nd event of the year. Guess what happened for aspas in champs.
2022 champs:- 1st
2023 champs:- 3rd
2024 champs:- 3rd
2025 champs:- top 3 again?

Nah this team will stay for champs at least. This team is a very young team full of inexperienced players apart from aspas.

Tbh unfortunate for prx that they showed a lot of their icebox stuff against th. I still think geng is better but don't think prx is actually that far off. Also geng pistol rounds have just been too good.

Lol don't fall for aspas rituals. He always sacrifices 2nd masters every year for champs since franchising started.

Rejoice. Mibr has secured top 4 for champs. Maybe even top 3. Aspas always sacrifices 2nd masters to perform well in champs. It's inevitable.

Well at least if it's same as every year 2nd event of the year has always been very bad for aspas like Tokyo, Shanghai and now Toronto. And he has always performed really well in champs after that.

Mibr Communication and coordination in general looks really poor.

Still tho idk what frod did with all that time. Actually embarrassing for the coaching staff.

This guy is a china hater lol. Bro has always been downplaying Chinese teams. He is a EMEA and Korea bandwagoner. He said he is half Korean half European so he does have an excuse for bandwagoning those 2 regions tbh.

Oh you are here lol. At least you have Korea or geng to glaze when EMEA is looking ass.

It's more embarrassing than the loss to wolves if mibr lose this tbh. They had so much time to prepare for this event compared to EMEA teams yet their prep with comps and strats look so bad. And especially tl had worse situation with nats visa issues too.

Well there is one valid excuse which is that the whole team apart from aspas has very little experience but still embarrassing to lose with that much time.
And "apparently" mibr didn't try for ewc qualifiers too yet they haven't even set fire for the cooking.

Having your own official game as well as a region is lot different than like one or two teams getting invited for some international events. I will argue that china talent has still not been developed yet. But I agree that edg or other cn teams and players with experience aren't bounded by the china being behind situation.

I agree that EMEA is at great disadvantage compared t like other regions but that analogy doesn't actually work for this china and other regions situation tbh.

Other regions had way more time compared to EMEA. That's a big advantage in a new meta.

Yeah indeed an embarrassing showing from the considering how good they can be.

True for th but I am talking about EMEA in overall but yeah it's embarrassing tho that th is looking like this. Also riot scheduling did fuck them. In a completely new meta time plays a huge factor. Other regions did have a big advantage compared to EMEA.

I don't actually like EMEA as a region. I just like fnc alone and this isn't like a copium or excuse for EMEA but it's really clear that riot scheduling did fuck them for toronto. Hoping riot can create a fair situation for every region for champs the biggest event of the year at least. Would be embarrassing for riot otherwise.

They need someone like solo and hsk. The potential is insane here. Need some improvement in overall fundamentals and macro.

Man the team diff is big tho. Jemkin is capable of doing that but duelist players performance depends a lot on their team's overall performance and support. So I fear if rrq with no or little experience will be able to handle the pressure.

Ewww no way oxy is koreaboo. Ig make sense as he literally uses kr language in game. It's fine if he isn't like those dumb and disgusting one tho. Also tbh whole vlr and this game is filled with weebs and koreaboos.

Well they have the biggest fanbase in val so they do have most dumb fans too. Otherwise the apac bandwagoners who literally never existed before this event are getting really annoying too.

Oh yeah true. Forgot about that for a sec.

Don't put more than one team for a rank.

In order:-
Fnc
G2
Rrq
Geng
Sen
I think this will be the top 5 for this event. Provide your top 5. The top 5 lists will be rated from 0-10 based on how many teams you list are actually in top 5 at the end of this event.

They had a better honeymoon run then val vitality at least.

More like solo and hsk appreciation. I have always believed that as long as they are the coaching staff of geng, geng won't face a downfall for long. Even with munchkin and texture uncertain future in val I think somehow the coaching staff will scout and develop some other insane players.

Kr flagger supporting sea. Nice.

Some Koreans might have knowledge on other loop holes that can work for texture and munchkin. Otherwise this is probably last year for munchkin in eSports and 2nd last for texture.

Really unfortunate for him and munchkin with the military situation. But there might be some loop hole for him like with jingg. Military service really ruins many people career.

What a throw bruh.

Also people are really underestimating teams like g2 or fnc who have vods and time for prep against swiss stage teams.

G2 vs fnc for me. Fnc 3-1.

True they showed a lot of their stuff against th in icebox. Anti strat from geng was too strong today. They got complete read.
Geng coaching staff has just been insanely good.

It should be back now. Team will for sure copy it seeing how good they have been so far with that pistol meta.

True but he has insane potential. I am confident enough to say that he can diff any of the duelist mentioned in that top 4 but I don't rate him that high cause of his team after all duelist performance depends a lot on their team performance and support.

I wouldn't want to face g2 or fnc especially among playoff teams who have vods and time for anti strat. Geng looks insane but will be hard for them too as they have like shown stuff in 4 diff map already.