Daigo above mango ngl. The Evo 37 to this date is still the most iconic eSports moment. Also raspberry>mango too.

Tbh stax clutches were equally crazy too. Especially that pearl one. Also it doesn't matter. Mvp has been kinda given to the best player in finals so far.

Pretty sure there was no such thing as mvp award in Shanghai or for masters before champs 2024.

Didn't Shanghai have no mvp title at all? And if it's like current mvp formula texture would have been the mvp for Shanghai like meteor was mvp in Bangkok while tbh izu was the best player of t1 in that event.

And one of them was champs.

Most underrated player in prx. People don't know how consistent he has been for prx lol. Always been at least top 2 player in prx in almost every event.

People don't understand how insane first person to reach 2k kills in international events means. Just shows how consistent derke has been. Has so many achievements as well.

Yes in Toronto. As I said in majority of the events. And he isn't even an actual igl from what we know. Also this fnc roster has never been called the best team oat. You do know rosters change.

Seeing so many people in chat claim he has always been prx best player and top 5 player itw every year is crazy lol. Forsaken flexing does have great impact but the truth is his performance individually hasn't been that great in majority of international events prx has played in.

Especially since tenz retired and Alfa Toronto performance, what you are saying is kinda the truth ngl.

EwwwWc lol. Anyway fnc is again reaching top 3 I think.

I thought rosters were locked or something like that. I saw some say edg will have to play with jieni cause of that in ewc.

Send proof

Nah shitting the bed means being bottom fragger and going negative by a lot. Can't remember a single game where shyy shit his bed when kru lost at least this year. Just checked he only went negative in a single game this year.

Bruh where is that statement even coming from? Shyy has been kru best player this year even better than keznit. His impact and fragging has been insane. Even in their losses he has been their best player majority of the time.

1. Shyy (he is so consistently good)
2. Marteen
3. Izu (maybe cause of meteor and buzz in the team he isn't appreciated as much)
4. Rushia

One from each region but I can't think of other insane players even in bad team who are underrated or underappreciated.

Edg is playing with jieni tho from what I have heard. And they have been probably playing with hfmi for some time now. So they will have to go back again to playing with jieni and they just had a game yesterday in vct cn so they have like 5 days before ewc.

Nvm. Can't believe he is already that old. Thought he was like 20. Val esports is such a young eSports that it's hard to determine ages of pros properly.

Oh yeah forgot about unc. He can easily replace zellsis.

Yeah that roster looks too good. Suggest some better players for old roster if possible to make them as good or better than the young roster. I don't know any other great old players.

Valyn tbh I think is still better. Siufat is good too tho.

Which team wins between these two?

Old:-(player needs to be at least above 23 years old)
Boaster(igl) 30
Texture 25 (26 in 16 days) wish him in 16 days guys.
Meteor 25
Shao 25
Davai 26
Average age:- 26.2

Young:-(needs to be at least below 23)
Valyn(igl) 22
Kajaak/aspas 20/22
Alfajer 20
Trent 20
Forsaken(flex) 21

Average age with kajaak:- 20.6
Average age with aspas:- 21

Obviously the young roster has better potential for long term. But for near future which roster do you think would perform better?

Also wanted to put chronicle in old pros team but never thought he is only 22. So can't think of any other good flex type player older than 23. So suggest any better replacement for zellsis.

Also which roster among the three above do you prefer?

Aren't you like a big Korean teams fan? How do you not know about the players situation? Current drx with like one change has more potential than this for long term ngl. Munchkin, meteor and texture are all old considering they have military service as well. And karon pickup doesn't make sense when you have mako. Izu is the best pickup tbh. Can fill in flashback role and can flex as well.

Another respect moment lol. What a shit draft in that game. Also these minor region teams can never make a upset. Regional parity is so ass in league. Is league ever gonna be as good as val esports is rn in terms of competition?

It's fine. I might be high. idk why I typed roaster everywhere.

Yeah meant to say roster or the core more than the team.

Like 9th below th I would say. Still need to see how the team looks with trexx. And the core still hasn't achieved much compared to others and is still very young. Ranking them that high cause of their potential.

Th has insane potential ngl and is a young roster too. I would rank them like above drx and th personally. But I still think they are below the 7 teams in the list.

This list is considering the current roster of the teams mainly.

Ummmmm. Like around 15. They are like 1 or 2 changes away I would say to enter top 10.

1. Fnc:- still very young roster. Crazy potential. Depends on boaster career length.

2. Prx:- again a very young roster with insane consistency throughout the years. Can be the most meta proof team too.

3. G2:- insane consistency already in tier 1. And I believe in valyn. Jawg age the only problem.

4. Edg:- insane roster and a young one too.

5. Geng:- ranked low cause of the age and military service stuff with texture and munchkin. But they have solo and hsk.

6. Sen:- again a young roster and zekken.

7. t1:- same as geng with stax and meteor. But they have autumn instead of solo and hsk.

Hm:- drx, th, tl.

Geng chances are dim cause like 2 of their best players are very old and have military left. They have solo and hsk tho.
Fnc has the best chance but depends on how long boaster can play again.
Edg also has insane potential but again coaching might be their biggest problem.

Edg with solo and hsk type coaching staff would have the biggest chance I think.

Hfmi will play in first game of stage 2 tomorrow right?

Way worse things? Pls enlighten me and try to get banned in doing so.

Mainly cause of ewc qualifiers especially for a team like tl and even then it's nowhere near as bad as ewc schedule where xlg has 3 days before their game in ewc and has to travel too in those 3 days. And edg has 5 days. And teams like prx have a stage 2 game in like 2 days after ewc.

Kinda yeah. Make it an official event with champs circuit points and also improve the format and schedule.

Obviously we need more but not like this. Scheduling and format should be improved. And it's best that it becomes a part of official eSports cycle for valorant. Like this ewc is kinda unfair for some of these teams especially cn and apac teams cause of the schedule.
Also did I ever say it is a mickey mouse?

It would be nice but man the scheduling and formats need to be improved. This year especially cause of the addition of ewc the scheduling for events has been ass. Like that EMEA stage 1 schedule for example. I don't really like EMEA teams but they really got fucked by the schedule for Toronto. And I saw somewhere that it's even worse for stage 2.

First is schedule. Idk why riot can never handle the scheduling well enough. I mean edg is playing tomorrow and then will have to travel for Saudi for ewc which will start in like 5 days. Or xlg will have 3 days before ewc. Their game in china is in 5th July and ewc first game starts in 8th. The scheduling is ass for even apac as stage 2 matches for ewc teams start in like 2 days after ewc ends too.

Also qualifiers were ass with how some teams were not playing with their main roaster or not playing at all. And it was bad for Toronto qualified teams as it happened like 2-3 weeks before Toronto.

And I hate the single elimination playoffs bracket for it. It's the same as lock in. Still a big event for orgs especially but it's not a part of the official val esports cycle so I don't think it's as prestigious as masters events. I would say it's bigger than regional events but less prestigious than masters. Especially for orgs like g2 or some other whose champs slot is basically confirmed I think ewc is lot more important than stage 2.

Still less prestigious than modern master events ngl.

Man I am gonna get it someday. Obviously this game isn't for everyone but from what I have seen so far it looks like the best type of game for me. a very weird story with chill vibes gameplay.

I mean both are quite overrated. Decent shows but overhyped as hell. They are like jujutsu kasien of tv shows. Same as stranger things. Only very hyped actual good shows are breaking bad and game of thrones except for last couple of seasons. Just my opinion tho.

Eww both mid lol. Overrated shows in general.

What about someone like chichoo or kk or less or derke? If it's just about being better at valo and not resume then I would argue that there are lots of players better than sacy or even tenz which might be a hot take.

Most overrated player in apac. More overrated than even meiy in his prime.

And squid game on top of that. Not worth it for sure.

Jingboog lol. Bro has been the 2nd worst player in that team. He is so inconsistent.
Art and jingboog need to go.

Hmm I meant to say single elim format. Idk why I wrote bo1.

What did you smoke? What are you even trying to say?

If It becomes an official event and part of valo eSports cycle from next year than it will for sure be as big as a masters event. But there are some limiting factors this year for sure.