NRG vs KRU Haven
EG vs LOUD Ascent

What do you think happens when a team has to change their roster for the upcoming year. Let me explain this so a 5 year old can understand.
Lev last year didnt make madrid, picked it up after practice and team building, and got top 3 in Champs 2024
Lev this year didnt do so well at the start, picked up 2 rookies, and were two series away from making champs 2025

Mibr picked up aspas, didnt do so well at the start (losing instantly in toronto as well), got verno to igl, and made champs 2025
These two teams became contenders through honing skills and making adjustments.

They BOTH had to change their rosters, make adjustments, and performed well. If you dont think that lev was a top tier team in 2025, then I will remind you that MIBR barely made champs as the 4th seed. This discussion would probably not exist if kru beat lev and made champs instead of mibr.

The roster bro, I heard he made the roster like nzr and frod when he joined like I said he made the team when he joined thats what I heard.

Your goat played the same 3 agents for 5 years straight. Well done. I guess that helps players like eggsterr in ranked. Unlucky he couldnt win it out because 2 decent duelists is better than the best duelist. What a pity. Chronicle is in the top 3 because he is getting carried, fair fair. Beat mibr ending with a 1v3 clutch last map last round by Chronicle. Beating the last champions in Paper rex with a sub was luck too. I like this reasoning, very simple. My eyes have been opened and I have been enlightened

Didnt aspas make the mibr team when he joined? He chose to snatch verno when he was a free agent? And he was in a top tier team, his team managed to get top 3 in champs (Lev and Loud)?

Why do people not see the game like this? Compare aspas with other duelists like kajaak or buzz, not a flex player with different jobs.

Did you just link 3 series with aspas losing?
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LOL

You can see the steam coming out of the aspas riders when they saw this post

Would they have a language barrier or did they all knew English that year

They are very quiet when he isnt playing, if only kru didnt choke I would find peace during all 3 internationals.

ASPAS IS THE GREATEST DUELIST OF ALL TIME STOP TRYING TO COMPARE HIM TO CHRONICLE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ROLES
CHRONICLE'S LIFETIME RAZE STATS HAS BETTER ACS THAN ASPAS ALL TIME RAZE LOLO
THESE GOAT DEBATE POSTS ARE RAGEBAIT AT SOME POINT

When you are playing agents like skye, harbor and KayO, its hard to get stand out clips since your util is all support. He destroyed Kru on omen haven recently.

If Nava or giantx beats TL in losers, heretics makes it right? (Edit: I understand it now, Liquid needs to make grands so it'll be fnc/th on points, and tl/??? in grand finals)

Team "Want to get into ProCity"
Hamy
Prod
A2Guapo
Picklespear
Dasnerth

Team "Current bottom 5 ProCity players in leaderboard"
Jerwin
Traded
Victor
Misu
Oke

Winner gets/stays in ProCity
Reminder: Picklespear, Hamy and Prod all played in premier this act

How can they perform well when they had to learn to play without spike for 1 split then come back with spike in a group with g2 and sentinels? But surely they can talk more about champs and sentinels rather than 2G and being relegated. Balance it out or something, yk?

I swear these casters when they keep on talking about how this is 2G's last series and they can soak it in, I feel frustration. After a while, I think the audience can put 2 and 2 together and figure out that this is a sad moment for 2G, just let them play and cast the game and not what their next 5 years will look like

apeks and gentle mates get relegated and the top 2 ascension teams (the grand finals) go to t1 next year

I was out getting groceries. Please tell me (and then share) that there was some Urango highlights or anyone else from Furia. Love them play, is like watching your kids play little league

Name a player that has played tier 1 and kept a 1.1 rating and wasnt cheating. Braindead claim "Cant perform in this era". He was 2nd highest rated in bangkok, unless you meant post tejo nerf era then sure you got it bro. Good ragebait man

Fnatic crashies said abc during the last round of fracture against liquid. They also say bingo and tikki taka, but I am pretty sure bingo is when all the players are accounted for (dont worry about flank)

I'm pretty sure last year was split to fight half the teams in vct split 1, then another half split 2. But now nrg are getting pummeled by mibr again next split? G2 are going to pummel furia and C9 again? Is this system supposed to be adapting current power rankings? Not a fan

Can we talk about the fact that he retired, but he has the chance to be the only sentinels player to win a game in bangkok?

I hate this comment so much because the only measure is stats.
His stats arent good enough to carry his team to a high place in the international stage except for 2023 Sao Paolo

In 2024:
F0rsaken's team made every international and averaged a higher placement domestically
Mako's team made a high placement in champs, but placed 5th

2023, PRX placed higher both domestically and in internationals (all excluding LOCK//IN)

F0rsaken was on PRX since the inception of the team, placed high, and does so flexing all roles essentially
He clears mako in longevity, and he would be a first pick when it comes to an APAC draft

Do you not see a problem with 5 f0rsakens overheating and w keying? I feel like solid teams like 2024 geng and sentinels would shut this down with their extreme discipline and confidence in their mechanics. I also am not sure how well he does with an igl role because davai is technically the igl for paper rex

I only saw a bit of a voice comms video but his calls werent too bad. I think that igling in general would be woots biggest problem

Has valyn played other roles? Same with Boo, but I know he at least have played fade on lotus

Basically a "No one is beating a team of 5 TenZ" scenario, but with more thought. I think aspas isn't a good choice since he plays only duelist, so they need to be able to flex and they need to be decent at midrounding and igling. If f0rsaken did a little less overheating and w key, I think he would be a good candidate since he played every role with decent showcasing.

He got 4 and screamed at his iso to lose his kill contract for the fifth. "LOSE IT! LOSE!"

Is EG the best choice just because they won champions? Or are you defining consistency with EG?
Measuring consistency (to me) is how likely I am of making the right predictions with that team. Luck is everywhere in both the game and pro scene. From random headshot through smokes and timings, to whoever is sleeping in and bracket draws, but top tier teams will minimize or exploit each part of the game's RNG, leading to consistent performances. There was the 2016 NBA Finals, where the Warriors were the favorites and lost a 3-1 lead to the Cavaliers, does that discredit what they did the whole year?

Hearing about EG's story and how they NEEDED MIBR (who were one of the lowest performing teams in that league), I wouldn't have thought that they were going to make it to champs in the first place. They have never beaten FNC, earning second place in Tokyo, and are tied with FNC in terms of series against LOUD (both 2-1).

Consistency is how top tier teams beat other top tier teams. There is a one in a million chance that a team like EG loses to a random team that gets 40 running headshot kills through a smoke, and make all the right reads, but that shouldn't discredit what they do would work the other 99% of the time.

What is the criteria for team of the year? Because Fnatic and GenG have been the most consistent in their years (2023 and 2024 respectively).
Would EG be in contention for 2023 TOTY since they won Champions? Are we talking firepower like NRG? Or fan favorite like Sentinels and Paper Rex?

I have to disagree with your argument because I value the consistency of these two teams. Both teams have made every tournament, placed 1st and 2nd in their leagues, and placed high in each tournament (GenG champions being the exception).

Edit: Imagine someone like Lebron or MJ not be in contention for player of the year because they lost against 1 team.

I think Boo is the clear favorite, since he got his team to the finals of both masters and (I think) kickoff + split 1. (I didnt realize this is a T2 post my fault, my fault)

I know El diablo and the Wonder kid, and I am sure there are more throughout the 4 year scene. My personal favorite is the wonder kid, but its probably because I enjoyed the fnatic story in 2023

I would like to add a bit more context since people keeps talking about the first engagement graph in the video. Platoon also showed that Demon1 also had the second most amount of clutch attempt (outliving the rest of his team despite being one of the 2 duelist player on the team). I figure that was worth mentioning

What is wrong with bang? I dont watch many 100T matches, but I feel like his mechanics are decent and he isnt yelling as much as Asuna