NerfMaxima
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he wasn't just a "good" breach - he was the best breach. again, no other player lands as much consistent value with his stuns than he does.

Just like how chichoo was the best senti? smoggy was the best controller? kk was the best duelist? nobody was the best igl? you won champs id expect everyone on your roster to be the best in their role, thats just silly.

kk is INCREDIBLY demanding when it comes to util - his entire playstyle is dive like a psycho and hope their entire team isn't in position to trade.

thats the exact opposite of selfish playstyle, diving in like a psycho is the most selfless thing a duelist can do, your argument just isnt good.

unlike say aspas, who is extremely self-sufficient even without setup.

he is self sufficient because he selfishly uses his util for himself, you are flipping the terms. aspas uses the util for him, which allows him to be self sufficient, kangkang is not self suffiecent because he is full commiting for his team.

same with smoggy - case in point, he was probably the only player at vct who played a lot of clove - reflective of his selfish playstyle. again, that's okay, he clicks heads, its just that he needs more util from his team than he provides

him playing clove has nothing to do with his utility usage, his good aim has nothing to do with his utility usage. Go back and play these rounds through, he will barely use utility for himself, and its pretty hard damn to when your on a role like smokes, because its mostly supportive utility. you are just missing with these point, when and where is smoggy not using util for him team and instead himself?

like, just looking at their games - how many times has smoggy ever omen flashed for s1mon to run in and take space - never. again, that's fine - it's just important to realise that they demand more util from their team than they provide.

He never does it for s1mon but why would he? I can pull up hundreds of rounds where smoggy is flashing for his team like kangkang to entry or to delay/hold instead of saving it for himself to get a kill

but when you have 3 very util hungry teammates, it puts immense burden on your supports to throw effective util - ESPECIALLY the flash initiator - every single time. no other team have players that are this util hungry. the whole team works BECAUSE s1mon was able to fill that role singlehandedly.

thats all he had to do, and I mean it, he had a single job. if he couldnt throw perfect utility he wouldnt be on the team, he cant frag, he cant communicate well, he cant bring up the energy, he constantly has emotional swings, he falls under pressure extremely quickly. you are praising him for a singular job. like thats the bare minimum of a champs winning team.

this is like me praising zmjjkk as the best champs player because he entried a lot???? well no duh thats his job??? if he won champs, and he wasnt impactful in his role, he wouldnt have won champs??

unfortunately, if you're in that role, you're never getting advantage gunfights - noone is going to throw util for you to secure an entry since you're the one that's expected to do it for everyone else. if that entry goes wrong - you're taking the gunfights raw. noone is flashing for you, noone is baiting for you etc. that's again, fine. but your stats will look much worse if you're in that spot.

this guy was whiffing against fully flashed people, and people not looking at him, even if people were consistently flashing for him, he would not be much better. I mean this was at the bottom of the chinese league in nearly every stat but assists. But thats not what im faulting s1mon for. besides stats he was also not providing anything external for the team.

If you do not comm well, and are actively bringing the energy down in the team, and cannot frag for your team, you better be good at your utility.

jieni can shoot. he's a duelist player. but just coaching and setup isn't enough to fill the massive util hole s1mon filled single handedly. edg look insanely lost - their hits don't have meat behind them, despite having 3 world-class shooters on the team. i honestly don't blame jieni7 for his stat performance, since it's an incredibly demanding role which s1mon filled so well.

Jieni is a decent shooter, he is like mid table in china, not anywhere near the caliber of the rest of his team. but the main problem is his role swap, he is playing flex (3 roles) 2 of which he has barely played, any decent intiator player wouldve done better, not just s1mon, this is not evidence of s1mon being the goat, this is evidence that jieni doesnt know how to play his role properly

being energetic is important, yeah, but i don't know what the internals looked like behind the scenes, and neither do you. vaguely speaking from their comms vods, s1mon seems vocal enough to fill his role well - he asks and calls his flashes, cheers on his teammates etc. could be cherrypicked from management, idk, but that's besides the point - i'm evaluating server performance.

Except we have direct evidence of players saying he doesnt comm, saying he brings down the energy, showing where s1mon just breaks down in the middle of a tournament, we have video evidence of high intense moments where he barely comms.

What else do you want? a signed piece of paper? Xi JinPing to tell you himself??

posted 2 months ago

at what rate is this happening at (for everything)?

monthly?

if so, save the $600 dollars a month to pay off your debt and by month 5 you will be debt free

posted 2 months ago

hypothetical bills to pay each month for food, gym, utilities, and stuff.

how much?

debt of 2300$

paid back when? interest of?

posted 2 months ago

wait did you say S1Mon is more vocal than smoggy?????

omg im being rage baited

8/8

holy shit I need to rethink my life

posted 2 months ago

so surely the players that joined in the beginning like sword9, like haodong, like abo, like life would face those same issues right? because their wasnt an EDG core yet. oh wait, they didnt...

posted 2 months ago

every player/coach theyve gotten has turned out to be a top player in china or atleast good

Sword9 - was one of the best igls in china
Haodong - one of the best igls in china
Yorkmaster - Pretty good coach in china
NathanD - Pretty good coach in china
Muggle - one of the best coaches in china
Abo - been in tier 1 china since the beginning, hasnt peaked like the others but still in a respectable position
Life - Was one of the best players in china in 2022-2024
S1Mon - World champ over night

Dont need to say anything about Zmjjkk, nobody, Chichoo, Smoggy

Thats a really good track record

posted 2 months ago

That's the bare minimum

EDG have the best support structure in china for valorant, if thats bare minimum then these other orgs got a whole lot to do

all things that happened prior to these issues mental and performance coaches yet can't manage nerves and pressure...?

by this logic: T1 league has awful support structure and their mental/performance coaches are worth nothing (T1 league have the best support structure in league but I guess not since T1 players are constantly under pressure)

Researching? I was a FAN of the team I'm shit talking lol

Yet you fail to recognise the amount of help EDG offers throughout, so you being a fan means nothing. they arent even my top 3 favourite team in the region and yet I can recall all the help EDG has given to rookies like S1Mon. like legit what do you want them to do?

Biggest org by what metric?

fan size? hello? what do you think being the biggest team in china means? are you brain dead?

Please inform me of another instance of a player in the "biggest org in the entire esport" with multiple performance and mental coaches and ever so supporting teammates being removed due to pressure.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/y3hrw6/skt_t1_the_chase_faker_talks_to_a_sports/

"Wolf also said that he was puking constantly before/after matches, which is why Kkoma recommended that he go to a minor region, due to being less stressful."

posted 2 months ago

cool he was a good breach, and what else? he was at the bottom of nearly everything else, whether it be his stats, his confidence, his energy or his comms.

Nobody has been credited to being the most impactful player by everyone in the group, Zmjjkk not only had some of the best performances of all time but he is also EDG's hype man, Smoggy did crazy in the group stage and is EDG's second caller, Chichoo was their most consistent player throughout and is very vocal about what EDG needed to do throughout their champs run. S1Mon only brings good util compared to every other player who brings not only utility but also so much more in and out the game.

Also its a ridiculas statement to say nobody had "ok" util, brother as an IGL he util was insanely good, you know how many round winning calls EDG had based of nobodys utility? Also KK has selfish utility? he legit has the highest first duels out of anyone, how is that selfish? he is constantly making space for his team no matter what, and smoggy? selfish??? ON SMOKES???? like we gotta be trolling, how are we calling smoggys util selfish? Chichoo is the only one you can argue has selfish utility but he is also on senti, the most selfish role in terms of utility because it doesnt do much on attack

that lotus clutch was not game defining. yknow what was actually game defining? having a hype man cheering you on despite losing your map pick because you played subpar due to nerves. that grandfinals was purely won by zmjjkks energy alone. He WANTED to win, legit after every play look at him, look at how he cheers his squad on, every single round he made sure the energy in the round wouldnt die. EDG straight up lose 0-3 if zmjjkk wasnt screaming at the top of his lungs saying we can do it

posted 2 months ago

which stems from a disconnect in their shit system and shit management no one claimed anything of him being a better player.

yet every other player who have been in EDG have not seen this issue, you are the one that seems bias. How can multiple players step up and say "ive never faced this issue" and say there is an issue with the system. S1Mon by defualt is a quiet guy, you can see that in the EDG comm videos, and clearly he has not worked on that.

His internal conflicts also stemmed from immediately blaming his teammates after being benched

posted 2 months ago

Ah yes, the team laughing off s1mons huge whiffs, cheering him up after every big play, yelling to the crowd to cheer for the rookie, having multiple personal 1 on 1 chats with players after a bad game or bad performance (such as S1Mon vs LEV), who have multiple performance and mental coaches, cant support their players.

I mean have we tried researching the team we are shit talking?

Very rarely will a player feel pressured, at least for long, with a good and supporting team around them.

Also this is just not true, especially for a player to join the biggest org in the ENTIRE ESPORT, and being based in a region like korea or china.
This is esportless knowledge im afraid

we see huge amount of mental breakdowns, physical sickness, and pressure catching up with people in esports.

posted 2 months ago

I think you are purposely being illiterate, they wanted to change s1mon due to internal conflicts and because of that jieni would be better. This was never about jieni being a better player. Legit the only insinuation about that is Jieni is an insanely hard worker, which he is

posted 2 months ago

honestly, i think haodong was better at calling than nobody

normally honestly means to be honest

posted 2 months ago

cant be that bad if the consistently get the best players in china

posted 2 months ago

glhf

posted 2 months ago

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posted 2 months ago

I feel like every tournament is doom watching where if the chinese teams dont do well everyone is gonna ask why they have their own region/not competitive. Like unless china win the next 3 tournaments it feels like the previous achievements done by chinese teams are just meaningless.

like for example if china bombs out this tournament then despite winning champs, and coming top 3 in the previous masters, they will be brought into question and just feels like an endless loop.

finding myself every tournament going "welp if any chinese team loses we are going to be called a non-existant region again"

posted 2 months ago

just for you good sir

posted 2 months ago

dang man mb

posted 2 months ago

yet for all 4 of those teams you only consider champs, shameless behaviour

posted 2 months ago

I was replying to another guy and went to pick something up, is waiting that hard bro?

anyways

top 4 teams were:
FNC LOUD DRX NAVI
FNC EG PRX NRG
EG PRX LOUD FNC
-------------------------------------
at lock//in, FNC: 1 win - Navi (Loud had a rookie)
at Tokyo, FNC: 1 win - NRG (PRX and EG had a rookie)
at Champs, FNC: 0 wins

Now lets look at EG
at tokyo: EG 0 wins (prx had a rookie)
at champs: EG 2 wins - prx, Loud

so in total both teams beat 2 discounting rookies
fnatic beat 5 while eg beat 3 if you do count rookies
and if you dont count lock//in fnatic beat 4 still

posted 2 months ago

talking hypotheticals is always tough because there is never a definitive or objective answer, even if we go back to the same meta I dont think it will solve allat but im glad we could have a good discussion. good day or afternoon or whatever time it is for you.

posted 2 months ago

The biggest difference is that the middle teams got good enough to punish the better teams, before a lot of mistakes will go unnoticed because simply put if you were at the very top of the ladder no one was good enough to push you to make many mistakes.

People have gotten way better at utility, way better at antistrating, way better fundamentals to the point that every round is hard to win. if everyone else is bad you will look much better than if everyone else was nearly as good as you.

Also ive been watching valorant since masters berlin I just didnt know about vlr and stuff

posted 2 months ago

I explained this at #13 but no one actually rates acend highly for winning that tournament (at least I hope) so they cant be overrated

posted 2 months ago

Can I hear why you believe the quality in 2023 is better? because to me it sounds completely braindead to me (no offense to you personally I just think its really stupid)

posted 2 months ago

very sensible and logical take

posted 2 months ago

Acend is not rated by anybody, everyone calls them frauds, so naturally they cant be overrated

posted 2 months ago

yeah, but thats the problem, some people genuinely think 2023 EG is the greatest peak a valorant team has peaked and that teams have only got weaker since, for some reason

posted 2 months ago

potter is a great coach, arguably best in the world even but 2023 is not peak valorant. if you argue "what if EG had stayed together and continued to improve" then I can see your argument of potter coming in

posted 2 months ago

its fnatic

posted 2 months ago

is EG 2023, not saying they are bad, easily one of the best teams valorant has ever seen but they werent even the best team of their own year, and be real, no they wouldnt be the number 1 team if they played right now, we see that teams improve year by year, 2023 is outdated. You can be a fan of the team without massively over glazing

posted 2 months ago

THIS IS SO REAL

posted 2 months ago

If you reroll the game 0-0 its unfair to KC anyways so even then its "not the right environment"
you must also believe in resetting the entirety of champs 2021 because every team that won didnt do it in the "right environment"

posted 3 months ago

you can always wish it couldve been prevented but it didnt. Look Id love it if they played 2 rounds and said alright today is not the day but they didnt. and the best option to do after this outcome is to let liquid be 1-0 up

posted 3 months ago

in an unacceptable condition liquid still had better strats than KC, which is what made them win...

again do you think events like champs 2021 must be rolled back for the exact same reason?

posted 3 months ago

but it shows liquid was the better team... if both teams play in the same condition and one team is clearly better does that mean the game must be rolled back?

does this mean champs 2021 must be rolled back because a bunch of players were getting sick and couldnt play in top form? sounds ridiculas right?

posted 3 months ago

please tell me the relevance of this

posted 3 months ago

if you have a bias because you like a team, then dont give out ur opinion

posted 3 months ago

13-6. the game wasnt even close at all.

posted 3 months ago

TL suffered through the exact same conditions. and lets pretend they dont roll back the round. Liquid are still up 12-7 there is near no chance for KC to win especially since TL looked much better throughout the entire game. Do you really think while KC players were disconnecting TL players were chilling??

TL just through a basic eye test looked better on split, with more creative and sound ideas. rolling the map back is just a free anti for KC

posted 3 months ago

im sorry did u watch the game?

Especially after KC pistol on Pearl where rollback

this never happened

posted 3 months ago

there is no "true good" idea but one option is clearly better than the other

both are gonna fuck a team up but one of them is much less severe than the other, which is why I dont think its debatable

posted 3 months ago

why do you think it is a good idea to roll back a map liquid was clearly going to win

posted 3 months ago

KC flair all I need to see

posted 3 months ago

Thinking the game needs to be remade is so of the dumbest shit ive heard, its a no brainer that liquid would be up 1-0 because they both suffered lag issues and liquid were clearly the better team. if u think it needs to start 0-0 reflect upon ur opinions please, and get the correct one

posted 3 months ago

Aspas has never been the number 1 player in any given year

posted 3 months ago

great podcast, keep calling NRG what they are, complete shit, get washed uncs to retire

posted 3 months ago

Im convinced, they mustve had derke kill 3 every round on C mound and got convinced that this is their best map. They legit have 1 strat of triple stacking C on their map pick. Embarrassing

posted 3 months ago
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