Ok, that's what I was kinda looking to :D
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Ok, that's what I was kinda looking to :D
What's the most one sided matchup in vct? Kinda curious to see since i come from cs and in there navi has a 9 win streak over g2 (around a year worth of games) so I wonder if there is a matchup where one team just can't beat the other.
Oh, and it has to be some sort of two top teams, not one top team and one shitter, both navi and g2 are top 5 teams in the world so maybe something like sentinels and 100t?
I guess we will just stay at our opinion then :)
well I like what they do in cs, so I kinda respect them the most out of br teams
real talk, what's the most competent brazilian esports org? Pain?
the op statement was an overstatement, so I kinda argued with it. also TBF I am sorta new to the scene so I thought that it was just her being some talented GC player and not someone who had some achievements in t3.
I feel like in t2 she can gain some experience and have less pressure on her when going into t1
so we will still consider it a real possibility with like a 5% chance?
kinda sad tbh, but I guess we will see how it unfolds
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This is why we left Valorant after being denied a slot. The T2 plan looked like a very expensive gamble with questionable upside and a low probability of success.
true, but that just kills the esports scene long term, no?
sry, meant sports like f3-f2 in the f1 series. female drivers usually stop there. Same for esports
tier 2 is the level around which female/trans atheletes crumble most of the time
because people put her gender over an objective reality. even if you scope a talented up and comer and put them into a t1 team with huge expectations, they can crumble. Tier 2 is the place for her to be rn. SIgn her and loan her to t2 is the move
The fact that people talk about promoting her into tier 1 and trialing her right now is just jumping the barell, get her into tier 2, give her some time and if she cooks, get her in
well I fucked up in my reply at number 20, she isn't that good as building an entire t1 roster around her and giving her the right system. A year in tier 2 on a loan wouldn't hurt her progress
I have never said that she is a bad player. People talk about her as if she is Tenz level of talent, yet she has some troubles at low competition. t2 is literally built for her to improve there.
she has to go thru t2 is what I am trying to say. If she is good, she will exceed there. If she isn't, then she can improve. TNot everything needs to happen right now, these process take time
She is good, but she would need to go thru t2 first before even thinking about t1. The fact that mibr are going for t3 rn is retarded management, not meaning everyone can go to t1
I am sorry, no.
Nicholas Latifi isn't beating Max Verstappen or Lewis Hamilton in equal machinery
Patrick Beverley isn't outplaying Steph Curry
Antony would never even sniff G+A of Cristiano Ronaldo.
Also Messi's case is indeed different, because Barcelona paid for his hormone problems (he was really really short), so yes, there wouldn't be the GOAT of Football
then she has to climb the ladder which a talented player like zander is currently grinding
https://www.vlr.gg/298268/shopify-rebellion-vs-1337-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-1-top-32-lr4
I would probably say that she isn't that good
my bad, you phrased it as if you thought it was a literal blood pact :)
couldn't they theoratically drop the calendar and events to other TOs like blast, esl? makes it a more open circuit
the name of that blood-pact is nepotism and connections bud.
Which is still a higher level than GC. also weren't most of them PUG warriors?
what condition is considered a right condition? Not everything can be right, and I am sure getting a tier 4 player into the right condition is a move which totally makes sense.
ok, stick boaster on fnatic duelist, build the entire system around him, take away the IGLing from him, I can assure you he will not be nearly as good as derke
''any player can become superstars''
most delusional thesis I have ever seen.
the fact that mibr targets players who are hard stuck tier 2-3 doesn't mean all of those players are immediately needed to be scouted
who had a collaboration with navi in 2020 and 2021
regular sports: Marlboro Ferrari, unicef Barcelona, opel milan
esports doesn't really have iconic sponsors
well s1mple fell off in 2023, so yes. But s1mple averaged this rating in a dysfunctional navi meanwhile yay had 1.2 at Reykjavik, 1.14 at Copenhagen and 1.23 at Istanbul
https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?startDate=2022-01-01&endDate=2022-12-31&matchType=BigEvents
stats while:
his country is in the state of war
his team has no IGL
event after event
team struggles to find a 5th
having your two other stars go AWOL
yay might have had a crazy year, but not better than s1mple imo
so a guy turning a tier 2 stack of players into a major winning team which now has won 3 events in a year while making 4 finals in a row lost to a guy who didn't even make it past champs groups
it is, but it is massively overshadowed by the major streak of astralis
No I meant that out of the 4 fourth places only 1 made the playoffs.
For some reason I thought FPX was the 4th, but it makes it 2/4, so it kinda makes sense, but not really much of a difference
That's like arguing domestic double > UCL in football. It is not
This. Most people don't remember Liquid completing the Grand Slam of 4 S tier events won in a row cuz they were in between 2 majors won by Astralis
But 3/4 4th seeds got grouped
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