The term cs frog has lost its meaning the way you guys just throw the term frog around lol. Of course I have played CS I talked to you about it the other day. The graphics for cs are literally fine. Unless you are confusing csgo graphics with CS source or 1.6 then yes those are bad lol.

Valorant graphics aren’t that good either. It’s just animated. Shouldn’t be considered about graphics in a tactical fps anyway. This isn’t COD. Performance is what matters.

Just a new source engine for CS. Supposed to come out in August but we will see. Feel like Valve is just keeping it in the back pocket until they feel like they need it. There’s no point for it right now.

If there was a new cs to come out anyway. They would need to transfer all the skins. The skin market in CSGO is way too massive to abandon it.

Valorant feels so crappy on anything above 60 ping imo.

Cs isn’t declining in NA. I think it’s stagnated in NA or very slowly growing. Nothing massive but there is still a huge casual player base in CS for NA. Not to mention esea open leagues still get over 500 teams signing up a season just for open alone.

However if I was new to fps games I would play Valorant over cs anyday. The game is dumbed down for the casual and appeals to them. Nothing wrong with that but if you want to play a game competitively it is frustrating knowing how lowered the skill gap is. Sometimes these gold players I play against when I Smurf with friends are better than my diamond/immortal queues (back when I grinded the game). I wish they increased the skill gap but oh well. Also feels like nowadays immortal is too easy to get. Adding the new rank helps but yea.

A lot of Valorant’s player base came from games like apex Fortnite and league. Or Val Is their first fps in general. Those stats you gave are hard to base off because riot doesn’t release their player count.

The last factor is that CS was never a huge game in NA. I mean it’s decent size but everyone knows the NA region is a console region. Cod is the king FPS game in NA and always will be. All my friends growing up had consoles. I was the only one who had a pc and a console but I mainly used PC.

Sorry for the essay.

I mean I like like both games. I do like CS more but I enjoy Valorant for what it is. Both games frustrate the hell out of me at times but it is ironic when you see kids on this site bash cs and call everyone frogs while they be a frog themselves.

I mean what he said isn’t entirely wrong. People will be upset but there is no doubt that for competitive matches. Riot heavily relies on watch parties for viewership. Nothing wrong with it but I think in the long term it isn’t great. Valorant has a great casual following in terms of people watching streamers play (most of which are pro or former) but yeah.

What do you expect. Look at the generation nowadays. All kids who can’t socialize and been getting handed participation trophies their entire lives.

My guy the term frog loses its meaning if you just throw the word around like it’s nothing.

The graphics for cs aren’t even that bad. Most players don’t care anyway because they all run lower settings and whatnot. Not like it’s COD or something. Valorant’s graphics aren’t that great either but I just run everything low as well.

Performance > graphics

Wouldn’t it be the other way around? Lol

Well aren’t the cs players in the collegiate league the same age lol.

I would say most Valorant players are 18 or younger.

Will always be that way unfortunately. I mean I’m from NA but don’t like any NA teams at all. I don’t mind Optic I just don’t like Marved. I personally like Gambit because they are all like 18-21 if I remember correctly which is cool. But EU is a competitive region so it’s tough. Even if they did qualify for Iceland they wouldn’t have been able to go unfortunately.

Nah OT In Val feels like a coin flip. Whoever gets lucky on the T Side first seems to win majority of the time.

Never saw that thread lol. This site is full of brain dead takes. Easy to avoid them.

Eu isn’t genetically superior but they treat their career as an actual 9-5 job. I think that is what has separated EU for the most part.

It’s really not that deep though bro. Don’t know why your all flustered rn.

Was a good game but watching Fnatic throw those rounds were tough.

Specifically watching Boaster throw. Should have never gone into OT.

As someone from NA, the delusional NA Fanboys is a main reason why it’s hard to root for NA teams.

It sucks when you’re from NA and half your region is full of deluded fanboys obsessed with EU VS NA. Game shouldn’t have been that close but LEV is a good team. They are better than XSET lol.

Dude makes a great play and follows up with a throw

Makes a great play and follows up by a bad one lol he’s thrown 2 rounds for them now

Not having trust in your teammate smh

Threw the game

Can’t tell if you’re trolling/baiting or that stupid so good job

EU has been the best and most competitive region. With that being said Optic is the only team from NA who has been consistent. They are the team to beat this event imo. But NA is not the best region.

Nah double elimination in playoffs shouldn’t be a thing. So many chances idk. It’s fine for group stages but playoffs is no bueno for me.

Yeah 3 LANs is a joke and riot has always been money hungry and stingy. I mean it shows in the skin market. I would personally buy skins in CS over Val. I just don’t like how you can’t sell anytime. I know people who have spent 1500 in skins and they are stuck with them for life. Just feels overpriced for things you can’t sell.

On jah

Cmon Phamous, you and I both know the issues with NA CS were occurring way before that. Players in the NA cs scene cared more about their egos and reputations over winning. It’s always been that way and it’s always been the issue with NA in almost every game. You see the same problems with NA VAL.

Of course all these new orgs will enter val. The game was brand new. In CS the only way to currently make money with the eu bubble was to be in europe full time. It hurt every region besides eu/cis.

Yeah they definitely have gotten stronger. The only issue I have is wasted spots for teams at events that shouldn’t really be there. They are just there for the international presence. With that being said the expansion of more teams can allow that to happen so that there are teams that may not be great but improve with the experience.
But then you also have teams that deserve to be there.

Imo EU has 7-8 teams that can all win and be competitive but only 3 can make it. Hopefully this makes sense idk. NA has some teams but only one who is consistent is optic.

Well if they find a way to change the venue and transfer the already transferred tickets they could definitely do it. I doubt they would not transfer the already bought tickets. Maybe you can only hope. Brazil will be the place to be though.

It’s how the game was advertised.
And cmon Phamous, you know that Val didn’t kill NA CS. Covid did. Covid hurt NA CS more than Valorant did. Valorant certainly didn’t help but it didn’t kill it. Covid nailed it in the coffin.

Well the thing with Valorant it has unranked which people like to play. Me personally I could care less about unranked. If I’m gonna play a game I’m gonna play for my rank and to win. Would get bored just playing unrated all day. But unrated is a good way to learn. Cs has an unranked system but it’s not that popular. A good way to learn would be retakes or executes servers.

You might have been a new player but I’m sure your teammates were a bunch of players who are Hardstuck silver. They live and breath that.

I also am not the biggest fan of how many chances a team gets in a tournament. For example if a team makes playoffs. They still have a double elimination bracket for whatever reason. Feel like it could be structured better.

I agree though there could be more opportunities for teams. I get it varies for regions. EU has several teams that are competitive but Only 3 can make it. I get they want a more international presence but I think it would be best to have the best teams to play whoever they may be.

They can definitely switch to a bigger venue and sellout. I remember Tarik was talking about it. There was some stadium calling out to host the major there.

No offense but you kinda brought that on yourself. At least run through the game first so you know the default settings and mechanics. What does what and whatnot. It’s always best to play with a friend at first but cs Doesn’t have the training course like Valorant does so I get that. I’m sure you would be annoyed if people in ur Val game hopped into ranked not knowing the game (assuming they bought the acc).

Idk if people did that in my game I would just assume they are trolling. No doubt there are toxic players but I’ve had worst experiences in Valorant for NA at least.

Who knows. All I can say is that it’s Riot. They are missing out a lot of potential. Very curious if the seating will be limited for the event.

The Brazil major will be hype for CS. They can fill a whole stadium I feel like.

Mm is definitely not as toxic depending where you live. If you live in Russia or Eastern Europe I can definitely see that.

In NA Valorant toxicity is another level in pugs from my experience. That and the edaters is another experience itself.

It’s pretty bad. I was told this event was going to be a crowd but I guess not. Will champions be? It’s just such a waste to not have one and don’t know what is holding them back. I get riot are stingy but cmon. People want more than these studio lans.

Casters is a big one, gameplay, and easy to watch.

Biggest one is the crowd though. The crowd is such a big difference as well. The fact Valorant hasn’t had a lan crowd yet is a joke.

I have no doubts he’s been popular for awhile. I’m just saying he is the official Portuguese stream and has been for as long as I remember. You said he is a watch party which is wrong.

Well it’s a moba and Asian countries love mobas. Dota is massive in China as well. I know the Koreans really love league specifically as well.

I’m just saying in general though that CS has a massive following in China.

Agreed, although a lot of the playerbase for Val Came from games like apex, Fortnite, league, etc. The whole concept of the game was already established and based off CS. You can say it’s copied but there are some differences. But it’s not like Valorant was a fresh new idea. Its whole idea came from already established and successful games.

I remember when the game first came out it was being memed on as “Tom Clancy’s League of Overwatch Global Offensive.” Lol

Gaules is an official Portuguese stream. Not a watch party dude lol.

No one is salty. I enjoy both Cs and Valorant but your takes are beyond bad lol. I get there are Csgo fanboys out there but don’t forget how many Valorant fanboys there are who are just as bad. These games shouldn’t even be compared but considering how Valorant was marketed as the csgo killer it will always be compared.

You can just tell me you don’t watch Cs and I won’t judge you. But now you just look silly.

How is CS possibly declining? The viewership has gone up. The game is more popular than ever. It hit its peak player count in 2020, 8 years after its release. Game has twice the player base of Valorant. Either you are that detached or just off the goop.

The cheating problem in CS is heavily over exaggerated. I get there are cheaters but it’s seriously not that bad. Every game has cheaters.

The thing Valorant has on CS is how dumb downed the game is for the casual. That Is how it attracts new players as majority of the player base came from fortnite, league, apex, or Val is their first fps. If I was new to the fps games I would for sure play val over CS just because how noob friendly it is.

Be realistic dude lol. Don’t forget CS has a massive Chinese following.

I get Japan loves Valorant and they have a big following but they would still need Korea and China. Korea still seems to be more interested in OW and League over Val.

It’s a trend game. That’s the problem imo. It reminds me a lot of Fortnite in 2018-2019.

Unfortunately Valorant relies on watch parties. But I’m sure the grand finals will do well.

Wonder why they put all 3 European teams in the same group and then the 2 NA teams in the same group. Should have switched one for one imo.

Because it’s the Valorant community

game rewards you if you don’t let go of your movement keys while holding mouse 1