GENG isn't even top 4 in pacific anymore and won't even make champs or masters? lmao worry about your own team before worrying about mine.

you def dont even watch assmericas this is just looking for the highest rated player in each role. how do you think they got z0nd0r

They got zander because he was the most clutch and consistent smokes player not only in NA but in ascension, pretty sure you're the one who doesn't watch the games because the TSM players + glyph are cracked asf.

I'll give it a 1/8

Saying LOL to roster changes while your team added s0gg0st is crazy

CHUNK would go positive at least once on smokes

-Asuna
-Zander
-Boostio

+Vora (initiator)
+GLYPH (smokes)
+Seven (sentinel + IGL)
+Nbs (zikz -> AC)

Would only add victor over Vora if victor keeps up his form as initiator + secondary duelist.

where was this talk when the crowd at pacific ascension was hella loud for boom?

Tiktok marshal only jett main vs tier 1 pro hmmmmmm

you don't like it when i downvote you

I think you have to realize that me saying I'm going to counteracting your downvote doesn't immediately mean that I actually care, and I don't care about downvotes on this site I'm not a 12 year old like you.

this is obvious bait, no one thought she would fry, the best case scenario was that she'd hold her own (which she did)

You've never been on twitter have you huh, was on there for less than a minute and clicked on valorant post about Apeks and the amount of stans was crazy. Also the amount of people who thought they were going to be the best on vlr is crazy too, you were probably one of them.

have not mentioned why you said vera and sm1le are better duelists than flor

Can you read or is that something you flor fans have a hard time with alongside accepting that they aren't a top 5 player itw.

I'm a snowflake how exactly? you're doing everything that I am doing right now just trying your hardest to avoid it. You get offended on flor's behalf ANYTIME someone says something about them that isn't remotely supportive or positive to them (not even just on this post but ANYTIME). So the self projection couldn't be anymore apparent.

they struggle against teams like qor bruh

Yeah and flor struggled against tier 3/4 teams and couldn't even get into tier 2 valorant and people thought they were the second coming of aspas the second they joined Apeks.

how soft can someone be man it's insane you even care about that more than your obviously moronic opinions

Says the person who was doing it first then got called out for it LMAOOOOO whatever you say I know you're not above the age of 12.

flor is also inconsistent, but she is inconsistent against tier 1 while the other two are inconsistent against tier 2.

They do "well" against tier 2 level teams in tier 1 consisting of Gi0ntX, N0vi, G0ntlem0t0s, and Liquid before they started heating up. Then they absolutely shit the bed when they go against an actual tier 1 level roster like FNC, VIT, and TH.

Edit: Vera literally has the best Yoru in SEA right now and was one of the best Jett and Raze players before this split.

It's only there to counteract your downvote, Jerrwin and Infiltrator are 2 of the best NA tier 2 duelists who are the best on their team and will actually entry for their team.

Palla is the Yoru and Raze player that flor wishes they were.

The fact that my post has 12 upvotes and yours has 3 downvotes really contradicts your point here. Also keep downvoting my posts and upvoting yours, it's honestly pathetic.

????? so I asked for proof and you think that I'm being closed minded? you're the one who is blindly glazing flor right now lmaooo nt dumbass. Where is the proof that xeus is the one who gets set up the most? like I said before the team having a ton of assists does not mean that the duelist is the one getting all of the kills. Where's your "numbers" to back that up?

How can you statistically prove that it's xeus withing looking at every single kill in a match? you do realize that just because the team has a lot of assists does not mean that the duelist is the only one getting the kills.

He literally said where it came from...

NRG fan upvoting his own post saying someone else's post is bait, what a world we live in.

0/8

No there are some shit duelists that flor is better than

KK
Mada
Canezerra
Xeus
Comeback
🐄🐄🐄
Derke
T3xture
Buzz
Kaajak
Minipoo
Aspas
Zekken
Cryo
Jawgemo
Oxy
Keznit
Dantedeu5
Rarga
Sato
Jemkin
Famouz
Hyunmin
Vera
Stew
Whzy
Kai
marteen
garnetS
Jerrwin
infiltrator
Qck
Palla
J0nggg
SM1LE

I could name at least 35 duelists better than flor

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I lowk think it was because t3xture underperformed the first 3 games that sparked those changes, if he popped off even once in those games then we would have a much different 2023 GE roster.

SEN, FNC, any Chinese org, T1, and TL pretty much, those are all the ones that will pay you hella bag and also make you comfortable.

Well you also gotta consider the fact that tier 2 production was so incredibly ass and the promotion for it wasn't as much as they do for GC, I'm pretty sure that like 2 regions had hella long tech pauses just because the production was so bad especially in Americas. Also GC got hella inflated by people who want to get the drops from the GF, most people only watched for a bit just so they could get the items and didn't even care for the games.

Also GC champs shouldn't really even be an S rated tournament since it's something riot is supposedly trying to use it to "help" people get into tier 2 and tier 1 but all it's doing is just creating a space where they have no point of leaving.

And they somehow managed to fumble both t3xture and monyet would've made a really good team

Lowk if they figured out everyone's comfort roles this team could've actually made a LAN they just overcooked with the 7 man roster. They could've easily beat the likes of T1, GenG, TS, and ZETA to get into Tokyo or might've made champs over ZETA in LCQ.

t3xture - Duelist
Ayrin - Flex
Monyet - Smokes + secondary Duelist
SkRossi - Sentinel
Bazzi - Initiator

He's probably going to replace Ivy whenever he becomes 18 plus doing nothing and getting paid sounds like a hella good deal especially from an org like NS

Zander was hyped up to the point where people thought he was going to be able to recreate Iceland Marved but he has been really disappointing ever since he got picked up

Riot cares about giving players a chance at tier 1 even if they turn out bad and also about viewership, I doubt riot would kick DFM when they signed the CR roster and then talents from tier 2 this year giving them all a shot.

It's neither really, at the end of the year there is always a team(s) from another region that is better than the best apac team.

2021 - Only decent APAC team was VS and they bombed out
2022 - Not much you can do when OPTIC and LOUD were a thing
2023 - EG was the best team ever made at the time and PRX kind of fell off during the GF
2024 - Every pacific team played like shit

Yeah it’s kind of crazy how riot also uses the main Americas account to stream GC yet no one watches it but won’t stream the tier 2 games on it, it’s just crazy bias towards GC and just neglecting their tier 2 scene even more. Btw them streaming on the main channel doesn’t even help with the viewership much either they get 4k viewers which is what tier 2 on their own channel gets lmao.

Yeah I agree especially since people under 18 aren’t even allowed into VCT having a small ass prize pool doesn’t raise any incentive to play in tier 2 which makes the talent pool much smaller than it should be just because people don’t think it’s worth playing for.

NA tier 2 stage 1 and stage 2 both have a smaller prize pool than NA GC stage 1???? Actually a joke how riot treats T2.

100goons disasterclass somehow NRG win

Isn't TL one of the richest orgs in emea and na salaries are only that high cuz they live in LA

Why didn’t they just sign an actual sentinel player and put FNS on tejo. Like you don’t need aim for tejo just tell your team to rush in plant bomb and play back and FNS can just IGL from the back. But no he plays sentinel the role where aim is one of the necessities of the role.

Same reason why something doesn't have the bo5 kill record and kk does

He's going for the kill record dw

Because people are always going to be nosy and interested about things that don't concern them and the information will always come out eventually even if it's not from canezerra himself, better just get it out of the way before rumors and hate builds up on either side.

Because canezerra wants people to be respectful to her and make sure his fans don't send her hate?? Idk about you but seems like a good bf move even if he was shitty during their relationship.

Agreed

He was a shitty bf but he's 16 don't expect him to be a full blown gentlemen at that age, a lot of people his age don't even have their priorities straight.

People when g2 uses tejo every map: they are so ass!! carried by tejo!! they are so boring too just spam util!!

People when DRX uses tejo every map: omg I love drx and Korea!! go DRX we love you!! free1ng is the goat tejo he’s so good alongside the rest of the roster!!

So how does this disprove anything that I've said? throwing me a link without telling me what it shows is crazy lmao

You do realize if their internal problems happened since their match against g2 (realistically in playoffs) then they would've already been in the top 3 at that point lmao. Also the internal problems I'm talking about is the fact that he was leaking everything to his fans trying to blame everything else on the EDG players and org and making him seem like the good guy.

He crashed out on his team and called them all trash or something along those lines, he realized afterwards what he said was wrong and was deeply sorry about it but the damage was already done at that point and they kicked him off the team because of it.

???? are you a n4rrate word?

the internal problems started happening AFTER bangkok and s1mon was already crashing out WAY BEFORE they signed the new guy, the EDG players literally stated that they tried to comfort s1mon when he was sad or when he was saying "I can't shoot" or anything like that. Nobody never openly accused s1mon of being a fraud and the entirety of EDG (even the coaches) praised on how good his util was.

0/8

s1mon did this to himself, you expect someone to crash out on their team and expect to just be welcomed back with open arms? Zap was a much better player than whoever they have now but he isn't going back because of the things he said.

s1mon starts messing around and doesn't put in as much effort after winning the biggest event of the year --> starts getting called out by coaches --> crashes out and causes internal problems within the team with fans taking it over the line with the players --> he gets benched (I'm telling you no one wanted him benched on edg they love each other like family) --> new rookie needs to step up and take his place. Somehow all of this equals s1mon wasn't the problem and the org is lmao what is this s1mon alt behavior.

You don't need a mental coach if a player isn't trying that is not the job for a mental coach that is entirely on the player, if it was that easy then 2024 NRG would've been the best team in the world if they had a mental coach doing all of that.

You do realize that they would still need to play against them if they want to make masters right? better to get it over with first then having to deal with it later, if they win they win if they lose then they lose plus it builds confidence if they do win against 2 top 3 teams in americas.