giantx didnt even make league playoffs most of their history or bombed out instantly. Never had a really good team nor many fans:/ it is def the smallest team in this tournament

like i said blg and tl were favorites def but edg? edg is just not that good and nrg been playing so well recently after team changes honestly i would be more surprised if edg won

True the level is at its peak

Lol give a little team a chance... prx also went to be the big guys after having so little succes with such a stacked teams each team has to start somewhere

Lmao they had a tech pasue after they won a 4vs5 retake

Well u wanted mostly the worse team to win so no wonder they lost XD only TL and BLG weren't supposed to lose on paper

Yeah if they qualify to playoffs and get a decent draw its possible

Lmao u clearly don't get what "team" in a team game stands for, they propably called that wall hunderd times they just didnt check and then they went back to duel with him and still lost

Well if prx keeps winnin rounds on 10hp we'll see

True tho recently tarik is reacting more to important matches tho very sad watching when he is idk literally what is he doing that he doesn't even know how rounds end watches replay and somehow still misses

Maybe Drx T1 TH ? maybe gx but they only recently started doing well

a blessing for any team that considered him lmao

Tarik is barely reacting but fns is just a bitter mf if u watched his streams when he was still a pro or when he just got dropped holy every play was a bad play for him and he would have done it better(hence why wasn't even close to winning anything for years)

Im adressing ur argument and the thing that started the whole discussion bruh. Also i v been an nrg flair before:D Wouldn't be surprised if RRQ 2-1's fnc here

Brother ur argument is just bad faith everyone believes that prx fnc g2 sentinels whatever are the best teams because they won in A DIFFERENT META when meta changes as one of the best should u cry abt it and lose to anyone or what? they are still 2nd best in apac. Not expecting anything from them is just bad faith and being clueless

Same wolves who won vs heretics and geng on the same torunaments and overtime with prx? Same fnc that only lost in grand final?

u convinently ommited that these teams are judged by their previous achievements yet u bring theirs down if we were to judge only by this meta then they are 2 best in apac. beat both teams that beat drg and #1 eu team y'all are just bandwagoners can't recognize when a team is just good

thankfully they are a slow starting team last time they had to play fnc for elimination blg is a freebie and mibr is a freebie for them aswell

Champs contender as in getting into at least semi finals, ofc depends on matchups u can get to play the eventually winners and second best on your way but still imo RRQ is only worse than fnc prx and g2

brother they literally won vs everyone in their league they even 3-2'd prx in playoffs and lost 3-1 in finals and it was close. they won vs prime t1 the T1 that won masters Won vs geng before they sold their players wnet to overtime with heretics u are clueless

to be fair i didnt believe in GX aswell and drg is playing with a sub:/ tho still played nicely. True blg honestly looking like the worst team here so far

Lol, clearly didn't watch apac. RRQ is a champs contender

It's a match made in heaven u love to see 2 good tactical teams imo it feels even better than random 1 player popping off and winning rounds from ass it just doesnt feel good

RRQ is still somehow heavily underrated they are a great team def a champs contender

As far as i know the RRQ players used to look up to fnatic and were actual fans

Damn that's wild lmao also just so u know drx so far never lost their opening match on internationals so even wilder prediction

RRQ is a pretty good team they propably shit on talon and geng most of the time with current squads

Well sure i kinda up'd it up a bit they had some good plays but not much its hard to call everything a good play when the opposing team doesnt know what tf they doing or whats happening i swear if mibr would just run thru smoke every round they still propably win this map

i actually dont give a fck abt cn valorant i am just a fan of the org in different games

I also given u the fact that they played better than they did before. And how many good waylay slows there were. like 3good strats the whole map is not something to call amazing strats lol

But it was free just look at blg play they literally gave up mid half of the time and when they contested they just went dry and died??? Also no shit they were better at getting the first blood, bro they were much better at killing overall. Blg was traaaaash. The fact is that mibr didnt do anything special, nothing that isn't alr used on a daily basis for years, and actually their postplants were pretty bad they just mostly had man adv thanks to first bloods and out aiming them. Tho retakes were good i agree.
My biggest point is not to glaze Mibr cause Blg just played so much worse that i think even EG wins that game

Cool bud i'd say you're a classic case of Dunnin-Kruger. go off sis.

u mean they just dashed in site and split. They got mid on corrode? u mean just standing mid and killing people that peek u damn that's a strat i didnt know existed? Sure they picked the right sides but that just verno calling not team strats

What? I literally said blg was trash af the worst performance so far of any team here doesn't change the fact that mibr wasnt that good and any other team claps em with that level it's y'all that are coping. it was like a game between tier 1 and tier 2 and struggling on ur own map pick

yeah i do. It's clear u are some hardstuck diamond player. give 5 duelists to 5 aspases and no one to set him up u moron let him run thru smokes and call some dumb strats cause he's not made for it. That's why its a team game. U are a moron

what strats. They were just splitting everything. and sure they played better then their last matches but at the level they showed i think every team here so far showed a better performance than these 2 teams today.

yeah it isn't a big part its pro play not ranked bozo maybe if u get prime aspas demon1 or smth which happens once is not "team performance" either way

how is that cope mibr was just out aiming there was nothing good about their play. Blg was just that bad.

actually true lmao G2 is eu org and is dominating na

lmao Blg was just trash and mibr was also trash they were just out aiming them. i doubt they were saving strats but there were barely any.

bait used to be believable. Tho to be fair holy shit when im looking at chat and vlr, CN is so dogshit but they somehow glaze mibr for playing insane. They are just hitting shots but tactically and chemistry wise look horrendous.

Well sure i wouldn't mind tho the difference is we are joking about NA in Americas cause the other teams are non existing so only NA teams are getting shit on internationally unlucky suffering from success

the league* not region XD

tbh sen got boosted by riot again, they always get the considerably easy groups, always have first map pick in a series, like idk i do think that if they dont lose to xlg they win the rematch vs gx. Tho i think g2 might have it hard vs drg and there is no way in hell that mibr gets out of groups even tho they had a fck ton of time to prepare and were one of the first teams in na to leave for paris, still think they get clapped by either fnc or rrq

Just so yall know drx never lost their opening game so far on internationals they are 9-0. While liquid normally chokes like b*tches their first game also that nats accidental tp basically lost them a won map

yeah but na is fair to say since the other teams are non existing in the league so far XD

Well only this split they fumbled but its true that they flopped, tho if u look at the league they still are at least top 4

G2 starts wise etc wasn't bad but if u look at their FK stats its laughable and unbelievable miniboo had 16K 6FD on this series he was opening rounds for free while the best opener in g2 was their igl a smoker that's cooked af

G2 had their moments but heretics def played very well at least their starts and retkaes were insane

they have 2 throphies alr tho. Technically 3 and 2nd place at masters