The favorite team to be kicked out if Riot reduce the number of VCT team, or the day CIS team are allowed

Too early to nerf him, maybe team will find a way to counter him.
Maybe put his drone is signature instead of his antidefuse spell, that would allow him to be play with flasher without loosing too mush info, while nerfing the part of the kit that is pretty toxic

It's okay sweetheart

I think I could be your mother. But if when I bring new argument this is your answer this mean a lot ! Thanks for the talking !

The fact it's happening or not depend of a lot of factor, if Korean val become big, Riot might see a way to earn more money, so hard to guess, even if I admit I wouldn't bet on APAC going to split in 2027, but in 2031 it's not off the table I think

Good midround would be to go on site with half less abilities (Supposing you used all of your non refill ability on the first try), but still some abilities, if you remove all the ability for the entirety of the round, then the team have to commit on a precise site and forget even the concept of midround, you have one push and if it's not work you are dead anymore.

Creativity come from ressources that can use in a creative way, if you are limited on ressources you cant take the risk to waste ressources by doing something new. But that wasnt my point, my point was I like when we can win with ability and not aim, and people dislike that

To me it's important to have "everyone" represented ni the tier one, VCT is mush more intresting if we have diversity, even if the overall level is a little bit lower

" Considering this issue, before APAC, imagine how many of the North American giants Riot would give up. 0. Why wouldn't the same thing happen in APAC?"
Well if Riot decide to reduce the number of franchising team and augment the number of ascention team, that will be the case for everyone, if we go to 6-6, we would have probably 3 or 4 NA team in franchise, so at least one less, the dropped team would become ascension team. If that happen it would probably be the same for Korea, EG would become a ascension team, and probably same for DRX (And either ZETA or DFM). But I can understand you prefer staying on the 10-2 model, that to me, is the model that guaranty the best stability.

What is making you afraid about splitting APAC in 2 ?

Sounds a good argument ! But can you elaborate ?
Why do you think having more ascension team and less franchised team would make them loose money ? ^^

"Why do you take regional distribution for granted when discussing this? Riot is not going to do that. Your 'no choice' will be a strong choice."
I don't understand your point, you think if we go 6-6 we will have 3KR team, 2JP team and 1 SEA team ? Or everyone will blend together ?

"If there is a world where they split the league, that universe will collapse and time will go backwards."
Looking at the data Korea could be enough big to have a league all alone to be fair, and as you says, we cant remove a lot of East-Asian teams

If APAC go from 10-2 to 6-6, without splitting in 2, no choice at least 1 east asian team will be cut out right ?

Split seems the only way to reduce number of partner team everywhere without loosing any market in APAC

"Right now, if you botch an execute, but no one dies, you can just try again in 40s."
And thats exactly what I call buy "Having a good midround", if you fail your execution you still can do other thing wish is good, remove that, you go on a no brain meta where you just bruteforce a site and there is no plan B

"Not to be rude, but that is a you problem"
Yup that what I am saying, people are on Valorant not to be creative, they just want to play aimlab ^^

What ? Did you watch the video ? Reducing number of partner team allow to have more ascention team. If they are a reduction we would still be at 12 teams in each region, same number of games.

Yeah but since you can't be exhaustive and create a lot of bias :/ because if we want to compare we need to know all of them, also being Radiant in Japan is easier than being Radiant in KR

Premier team is the least biased data sad fully T.T

Fair point, but I cant have the number of Radiant and Immortal per country no ? (If I could have it it woud be absolutely ammazing)

I admit I'm someone that always fear of using my utile and not having it when it's usefull, so I use really few my util, and that kind of change will probably make me use it even less, I dont think encouoraging FOMO feeling during game is really sane,

I'm afraid that having no refill utile mean a less intresting midround and nerf team with brain, and make proplay shift in an even more soloQesque type of game, wish is not my cup of tea.

But lets be honest, I fell in love with the game playing postplant meta during the fucking beta, and winning round without shooting (The round I'm the proudest in my life isn't the 3 lucky ace I did, no, it's a round where we ended in 0-5 and still won the round), so maybe I was attire by what people hate

I'm not sure to see how that work in practicle, supressing refillable spell wont change that mush the game, no ?

Premier give you an idea on the size of the playerpool and if the playerpool augment

I have the number ofr premier, the number pool in Japan is one of the only that not increasing :/
Korea made x4 in 1 year

What if hiring only JP people will not be enough to qual in the long term ?

Nyan city

No Franchise --> No JP org in T1 --> No JP player in T1 --> Less experience of T1 for JP player --> JP level get worse --> NoJP team in T1 etc

Dont you think if ZETA and DFM, they would be no domestic talent anymore in the T1 ?

If you do that that mean some T2 like Japan will simply disapear from T1, and make the cake smaller, it's important to keep franchise to ensure every big subregion is represented

So you are in favor of 6-6 ?

They are also good seller in EMEA and AMER, I think KC and SEN has probably sell a lot

Good question, and I think theya re no public announcement

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their version of Dies irae is also really good
I also really love Warm UP

They are a lot of underated song that nobody has hear

"Bundle sales, this is most likely the reason why Riot is even thinking about reducing franchise slot."
What do you mean by that ?

Not fully sure of that, SEA and India are sush huge market in expansion, I'm kinda afraid we loose viewer if Korea try to make suffocate them by taking almost every champions places. In 2031 I see no way sush a big region would still be in one with how Indonesia and India are expanding...

It's kinda a fun thing that happened in LoL when they make Taiwan and SEA fusing. Taiwan has the player, and SEA has the hype and the viewer, but the hype was killed by the fact Taiwan player just stomped SEA (Because they were too many TW team in the league)

"Bro there's no shot , a team ends with 2nd at champs will end up relegated" It won't happen, but you get the idea, a situation where we have G2 and another American team coming from ascension doing both top 8 sounds fully possible.

I'm not fully sure of what are you other point, can you rephrase it please ? ^^

It's really hard to say, sure, that would be the weakest league, and less competition may mean to get farm (Counterargument PRX prime where when SEA where a region all alone), but also, having only KR team that represent you in inter even could also really damage the competitivity of the region on the long term

Also, we have to keep in mind than India and Indonesia are 2 booming market that will grow every year, (And Valorant seems to become huge in KR), so at some point I think we will have no choice to split in 2. maybe 2027 is too early, but for 2031 that may be an obligation.

But yeah for the moment, if you take the premier data, you have 9k5 team for Americas, EMEA, and KR+JP+OCE, but only 3k5 for SA+SEA, a solution could be to add CIS to this league, I suppose this will depend if they are still geopolitical reason between Russia and EMEA, if it's become hard for Russian to get VISA maybe it would be better to them somewhere else (But if thats not the case CIS is historically better in EMEA)

What would be the problem for APAC south ? Not enough player ?

Thats basically one point I talk about in the video (APAC north + OCE is just called Pacific, and Apac South is called Asia)
I prefer put Oceania with Korea, because Oceania need 1 franchise slot, and doesn't bring a huge playerpool, while KR+JP doesnt need more franchised team and they are an open spot for an Oceanian team (It's also better for timezone)

Central Asia, beside Mongolia need probably to stay in CIS especially for ping reason, but I agree Mongolia can stay with Pacific region (But may not be big enough to give a franchised spot to them), while Taiwan is in a weird situation where Wolves is technically a HKTW partner team

So you want to keep the 10/2 ?

Thats the contrary, more Ascention team mean it's gonna be easier for them the maintain.

Hi vlr, 2 weeks ago I talked about half of that tweet and allowing tier 2 in inter, so now it's time to analysis the idea of reducing the number of partner team and augment the number of ascention team, it's a really important and underated subject, that will shape vvalorant future, and clothe or open new market for Valorant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpyWgFcU8Ls

tldw ; I'm very mixed about this

• This would solve the issue to having a team that end 2nd in champions and still get relegated
• Would work in China and Americas
• Nee a regulation (Not more than 3 ascention team form the same T2 )
• May kill some APAC market if they loose their T1 team (Or may force APAC to split in 2)
• I really, really want to debat about this subject, do you want 6 ascention team and 6 partenered team ?

I think they would need to locate in Berlin for 2 mounth, and it would be really expansive I think.

Thats why at first Riot wanted to secure for 2 years, you buy facilities, and so you dont spend that mush on the long run.

A solution I would really want Riot do, is making Riot buy ascention house, and just loan to whoever is ascended for free (Or few money)

Would be viable to make a team come just for 1 split ?

I don't think anyone need to desribe the current situation since we know it.

So prescriptive only please.

8/4 was my first idea, but after writing the script of tomorrow video (That is now fully ready ^-^), I feel now 8/4 wouldn't be the worst of the 2 world

• 10/2 : (With T2 team allowed to qual), allow stability and everyone to be represented especially in APAC where it's almost 1 team = 1 market (Plus a JP team easily removable, and the 3 KR team that are fully historic and hard to kick out), and still OCE and VN not being represented
• 6/6 : would be great for China and AMER, because we can have a group of partner (with rivalry that build of time), and a group of ascension (and bottom 2 being relegated), and still being sure that every market have representation. But for APAC where it's nearly impossible to kickanyone without loosing any market (beside ZETA or DFM and maybe DRX or GEN), and may need to split in 2 (Wish is good new for OCE that can finally have a spot). Of course we need a rule that ensure no T2 region steal the 6 spot (And have 3 team or 4 ascension spot maximum per T2 region)
• 8/4 : We can't make the 2 group and it's bad, because it's important for competitive integrity that every ascension team are in the same group so we can really now wish one deserve the relegation, and we still need to wipeout too many team. We still need the "3 ascention team per T2 max", but it would be mush less efficient since it's allow only 1 place for the other T2
• 9/3 : Is good, RIP DFM or ZETA, and still give a potential spot for CIS and MENA without kicking too many teams, solve the issue of having a finalist relegated and make things easier since we don't need the "3 team max per T2" rule

So

• Good : 10/2, 9/3, 6/6 (APAC split in 2)
• Bad : 8/4, 6/6 (no split)

What ? A T2 team in T1 is a T1 team ?

I want to debate about having more Asention team and less partener team.

What is you opinion on that ?

I'm afraid APAC will to split in 2, if not some market will just disapear from val scene :/

(And if you are really bored I can release the video early)

Tha guy was talking about soloQ, he make the subject shift. I was not talking about 5 stack or proplay

Toronto is probably the favorite city to replace Los Angeles in case Riot decide to move VCT out from the US because Trump is impossible to control or they are even more VISA problem. (Sao Paulo being close from them)

If this event is a success (or a complete failure), that will have impact on Riot final decision.

This is the real thing we need to pay attention

So that mean when he plays with a Sage he has more chance to win, because she is probably with a duo :]

That was true last year, this year we see a lot of doble dome, like Omen-Astra

If you plays doble smoke (Wish is really good comp), then you are fine

Thats the only region I would cheer for a split in 2 Tier 1 region

Duelist are mush better now, I dont think 0-D are still good team, plus Sage is also really strong, and doble controlelr are also a thing. So triple init is hard...