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#1
quwi
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such pointless ban when theres litereally something called islamophoiba in the world

#2
tubelight
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What did he say??

#3
quwi
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he said "racist" things about terrorists

#5
tubelight
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Did he say in game or in VCT to a player or coach?

#7
quwi
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in ranked i think

#9
BlessedHalloway
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He said things to a player saying "Biji PKK" in ranked. It means something like Long Live PKK or something im not sure but this lowlife deserved every word Vlad said

#17
amedy
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don't ask Turks what they think of Kurdish independence

#18
BlessedHalloway
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They can be independent. Just not in our LANDS

#20
amedy
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not your lands. theirs for hundreds of years until turkey was established and massacred a lot

#24
Opleiksi
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Kurds are NOT native in anatolia. They are zagrosian. Iranic ethnic group. Ignorance is a big problem

#27
emirerays
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ya sen bu salağa ne anlatmaya çalışıyorsun ki bütün postları kğrt yalamakla alakalı boşver

#28
BlessedHalloway
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eleman kürdistan bayrağını bulamayınca rastgele bayrak seçmiş bize sallıyor anasını sikicem ban yicem sonra aq

#40
Gutssz
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olm vlr.gg'nin %97'si falan gerizekalı zaten bu aptallar ne anlatmaya calısıyorsun haha herhangi bir şey bildiklerinden ya da öğrenebildiklerinden bile emin değilim

#29
amedy
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neither are Turks. kurds lived in that area for long enough now that it is considered their native area.

talk to any historian, anthropologist or otherwise anyone who knows what they are talking about and they will tell you this.

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Opleiksi
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They still aren't + the difference is we took these lands by fighting and shedding blood. Like it or not, this is our land

#25
BenitaT0ry
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ahahahahahahaah

#4
TheAceGamer30
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got ragebaited so badly

#6
BlessedHalloway
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But when PROFEK says slurs to our founder, there is literally no punishment. HAHAHAAHAHAHA

#8
1One1
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what happened?

#10
Conceit
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Surely we can come up with a better line of reasoning than this to justify racism

#11
quwi
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he wasnt racist he was acting deserved against terrorists

#15
Conceit
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And this is the exact justification that bigots in western countries use to justify islamophobia that you are now railing against. If you can categorize an out group as "terrorists", then you can justify to yourself whatever deplorable things you want to say or do to them. All resistance groups are considered terrorists by their oppressors because it allows them to justify oppression even though the resistance only exists because they were already oppressed. Fucking Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist by my government for over a decade after he freed South Africa of apartheid and became their president. It doesn't mean anything, and you can't use it to justify any view on a whole group of people

#19
amedy
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facts

though pkk is pretty bad. kurds have been genocided by Turks for a long time and lots of horrible stuff has been done to them

#22
Conceit
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Yeah it's just such a nuanced conversation cause obviously the violence that terrorist organizations inflict upon a civilian population is horrible, but the reason it's happening is because they are being oppressed and violence is this the only thing they feel they can do anymore to break themselves free of that oppression. It's just a lose lose situation for everyone except the governments that are doing the oppressing

#23
amedy
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yeah exactly. and if you look at the responses of the Turkish on this site you see how little room for nuance is in their heads. lots and lots of propaganda and misinformation in turkey about it. the suffering the kurds have endured at the hands of the Turkish government since the establishment of the state is way worse than anything PKK ever did

#26
quwi
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what are kurds suffering of? if you knew what is happening right now in turkey about kurds and terrorists you would say the exact opposite of this

#30
amedy
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hmm let's see

-language bans
-kurdish mayors being removed
-kurdish identity being denied (saying kurds dont exist, etc)
-low levels of state funding in kurdish majority areas (keeping them poor)
-pro kurdish political parties being closed (not democratic)
-displacement and killing of kurds from their own lands

I could go on. all of these are documented so please don't say they are untrue. I am not attacking Turkish people who are amazing, or saying PKK is good. But the oppression and violence against Turks and the fact they have been denied self determination is just true.

#34
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Yeah im now sure you are stupid as fuck.
-We don't ban kurdish language. But they can't use it in government buildings and, IF the owner does not want it, in private places.
-Tell me one mayor being removed just because he/she is kurdish
-Nobody is denying kurdish identity wtf?
-Kurdish majority areas are not specially low funding. WHOLE TURKEY IS expect some big cities.
-Every closed kurdish political party got closed because they were supporting the idea of divided turkey.
-Maaan you are really don't know shit do you?

#35
amedy
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you can keep your head in the sand and supporting oppression. i need to go back to work and frankly dont have time to argue with people who don't care to learn. you can easily Google search these things. or talk to historians (before you ask anything, I am a history major so I have talked a lot about this with people who know).

#39
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mf you really dont know whats been happening recently dont you? the government is litereally working on forgiving kurdish terrorists right now which should not be happening because they are killing people. also, 50 thousand prisoners were freed very recently and most of them are kurds. there are no language bans idk wtf are you talking about, heck i even had 2 kurds in my class and they were speaking kurdish between theirselves. oh also, the kurdish terrorists that are planning to be freed are gonna be able to be a politican in 5 years. there is no violence to kurdish after all in turkey

#21
Reimsy
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"I'm not racist but everyone of this specific ethnicity is a terrorist" is insane man, surely you can hear what you sound like

#32
r1uk3nd0
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Well turkish also sponsors terrorism ig. They are big time friends with terrorists state pakistan. So it really depends whom you are calling "terrorists" 😂😂😂

#12
Bernazoka
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i personnaly dont think insulting terrorist is racism

#16
Conceit
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#15

#13
islaaa
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so don't address an issue because there is another separate issue, how does that make any sense

#14
Pomshies
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how does that make it pointless?

#31
Splash9936
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the games gone soft

#33
r1uk3nd0
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Bro resorted to victim card (Islamophobia) when called out 😭😭😭

#36
SudokuDude
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Islamaphobia AND ethnic discrimination towards Kurds are bad. Hell, I knew a Muslim Kurd from fort long ago... like what are you on about lol

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