In light of this performance

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I just had a thought, why is RieNs never held accountable for his bad performances. I swear he’s the only star who is treated like this. For example, someone will always bring up Toronto and Tokyo for aspas but you’ll never hear anyone say anything about Toronto and London for Riens

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jixk
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rt most protected player of all time

#3
Nef0r0
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aspas is the closest thing valorant has to a s1mple (not glaze, just pure facts, bro is amazing mechanically, plays for a long time, has a loyal huge fanbase and reinvents himself constantly), so he will be held to a way higher than any other pro. S1mple also had the same shit. If s1mple went 0.94 - half of hltv would write s0.94mple, but if m0nesy does it - they defend it. It's just the price the most popular player has to pay imo. Riens is the m0nesy in this situation, people understand that stars can have shit games, but for someone like aspas they raise the standards to the moon. And also riens is just ''talented player'', aspas is straight up ''face of brazil as a region''

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I think that’s a reasonable reply but all of riens’ contemporaries face more criticism than him, such as Trent or brawk. Like Trent and brawk were criticized more at London despite both of them playing a lot better than he did. Those two are hardly popular

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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calling Trent not popular is kinda crazy ngl

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JonahPork
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He’s more “infamous” than he is popular. He’s popular to hate on, not popular to like

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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nah i think people are mostly neutural to him

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JonahPork
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Completely disagree, he was easily the most hated player of 2025 and that’s not for debate. Also you have “analysts” like Sideshow saying he’s the least likely player on G2 to win an MVP

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How much of this do you think is due to the Tejo meta though? He was by far the best Tejo in a universally despised meta, I think that is the source of most of his current "hatred"

#23
Useless_Miks_Ult
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i mean when i look back at it i would hate the best neon player itw more than the best tejo player itw

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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i mean idk really i think it wasnt that bad
also that sideshow take is kinda dumb ngl

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SturdyPanda
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Those two are hardly popular

just saying shit now

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JonahPork
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Incomparable to aspas and certainly on the same level of popularity as riens

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I would argue that Brawk is the most popular amongst the 3 with him being the odin abusing champs mvp. Trent I would say is close to Riens popularity wise but his 3 peat and "golden era" shit is the reason he has a target on his back

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I feel like NA simply has more rivalry within its region, as well as more hated than any other region (cuz american fans might be one of the most loyal to their region). Like even here on vlr.gg and twitter and any social media platform, 100T vs NRG vs G2 vs SEN is just a 4 way fight where you as this cluster of fans just shit on each other to prove an agenda. Everyone in americas hates g2 cuz they were the regional dominator before, hence if trent plays like shit they are more likely to shit on him. same with brawk and NRG, some people hate NRG because of their champs win, so they hate brawk by proxy. Just speaking as an outsider in a vct community, but y'all in NA hate each other and other teams like english football fans. NA is just simply a more toxic and banter region, Heretics don't really have an actual rivalry where riens could get shit on. G2 and NRG are in the most banter-filled region so should one of them underperform - they get shit on

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because there's no agenda surrounding him

you see people talk a lot about aspas so much to the point where all of his performances are closely recorded because people glaze him as being the goat, but riens hasn't reached that status for anyone to actually gaf when he performs bad

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JonahPork
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There’s at least an agenda of him being the best recon player itw but the criticism is not proportional to that

#5
Useless_Miks_Ult
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He had the least stinkers on this team

#7
kozzyluvr
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Fr fr

#8
Castawaytwizz
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I actually agree somewhat but I think it's because the entire team is inconsistent, so he escapes as the "least bad"

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Useless_Miks_Ult
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^

#16
markass_brownee
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I sure as hell am getting tired of his inconsistencies lately, but as #8 said he's the least bad

#17
HIMNIJ
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because hes never bad when his team is good basically

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